5.22.12 THE DARK SIDE - Post here if.....

As we all know, things went south for A & S. I don't think folks were over invested, just that the relationship seemed to diminish negative press and behaviors regarding Adam. Sauli had a lot of positive attributes, personality, looks, maturity, stability, honesty and was non exploitative of Adam. Many people here diminished Sauli's celebrity, even though he always worked. Yes, Adam was the more hi-profile partner, but Sauli did say the private relationship was most important to him, not Adam's stardom. Sauli sacrificed country, family and friends in order to travel/live with Adam. Prior to Sauli, Adam seemed more on edge and the partying at times got out of hand. Everyone recognizes Adam's talent and wanted him to get the long-denied recognition here at home. It's about more than looks, it's about the total package and ability to make good decisions in one's personal life. It says a lot about the support Sauli has always had at home and how his career has advanced regardless of living here. I like seeing the pics of Adam, but image is important to his career and I do question that if the reason for the breakup was no time for his partner, why the constant partying? Sauli was and has continued to pursue his work obligations and I've seen that many are disappointed that Adam contrary to his stated reasons for the breakup doesn't seem to be working that much. People who are in position to affect Adam's career are seeing the same things we are. I think there are a lot of career related frustrations Adam is dealing with, due to the lack of sustained sales outside the fandom of his last music. No US Trespassing tour, only overseas mini WAG tour and seemingly little promotion by RCA/SONY. Not saying who was to blame for breakup, but maybe the hype over looks went to Adam's head a bit, really he's 100% more attractive than when he first met Sauli. Of course, hanging out in gay clubs with people who are not on your economic or social level, provides more opportunity to stray, especially if your partner is restricted by work obligations. According to both men, breakup happened long before the announcement and many people feel deceived, as that led to the rumors and speculation. I think it says a lot about Sauli that he did appear with Adam post breakup to calm the uproar and that he did meet Adam overseas to attend the last 3-4 concerts, so tix sales, especially in Helsinki weren't affected. I wish both the best and it is sad, because it's hard to find someone to love who doesn't have a agenda. This was something special for both men to have found each other. Both celebrities and decent people, sad that it appears when it was Adam's turn to support Sauli, he was unable to do so. I hope the new music sells well and that Adam and Sauli both find success in their careers. Adam was the one who invited fans to celebrate his having finally found love and happiness and truthfully Sauli never said more than 2 words about the relationship, Adam was the one gushing and sort of outed Sauli worldwide. Perhaps it was hard for Adam to cope with Sauli's career growth, which Sauli didn't seek fame and fortune, it found him. Neither A or S will have difficulty finding new partners, but after being in a committed, supportive relationship, it'll be hard to settle for anything less. Probably will be harder for Adam, than for Sauli.

Looking at those Mezamashhi videos posted on the main thread today I can't help thinking that Adam lost some confidence in 2012. It doesn't show when he's actually performing. I think he's as awesome as ever when he is performing, it's during the banter between the songs. Yes I know the banter was cheesy and repetitive during the GNT but this era it was even more so. It was most evident during the Kiev and Moscow Queenbert shows and as he became more confident in his role as Queen frontman he relaxed and seemed more comfortable.

He's always articulate, quick and funny when interviewed but when he is talking to the audience alone I feel awkwardness. I might just be reflecting my own disappointment at how this era has gone.

I'm hoping he does get the judge position as he will be incredible at it and it might give him back the confidence I think he has lost.

Everyone wants Adam to be happy on all levels, this is what we want for ourselves.  Fans are not crazies when investing time and money in an artist.  Adam is a great person, kind, charitable, multi-talented, but we want him to have it all.  This was only his 3rd serious relationship, the other 2 guys broke up with him, just when his career was taking off.  Many of us fans are older and know how life goes, we just don't want him to be involved with the wrong type of person who may take advantage.  A & S were special and even now S still associates with Adam's friends and family, who seem interested in maintaining ties with him.  Supporting both men is only fair, regardless of how seeing pics of them in the past hurts.  Sauli seems to have came out of this relatively ok at times Adam looks as if he's not really having fun.

Hi, Lambertluvva.  I wonder about certain things also, like the barrier which prohibits Adam from achieving success and recognition, while those with no talent, laugh all the way to the bank, not to mention their less than desirable behaviors.  Currently, I'm concerned over the partying/clubbing image.  Pics are all well and good, but when you ask fans to be happy for you, due to your finding a balance between career and personal life, and then dump said person, due to work demands, but the ex seems to be the one working, it makes one wonder. People felt deceived in that no announcement was made til after Russia and Finland, when they were not already together.  Adam was always seen to be honest and more likely than not, it was Adam's decision when to tell.  I felt rumors/speculation fueled the breakup, and the announcement had to be made so as not to affect Adam's career, more than Sauli's. Sauli always had celebrity at home and the proof is that even while living here he was in negotiations to get his own TV Show. We were the only ones who insisted Sauli was nobody, living off Adam, and tried to diminish his celebrity.  We all know negotiations take months and Fox is not a small concern, so while Adam was more hi-profile, Sauli was working. In addition, Sauli bought maturity, respectability and focus to Adam.  I think frustration over the sales and lack of the promised tour, plus being in NY getting attention for everything but music, turned Adam's head. What no one says for fear of being stoned is look at Adam pre-Sauli and Adam now, a world of difference, but the true issue is lack of sales and needing a hit song, in the worst way. Its not about looks, should be about the music. After no Trespassing tour in the US, and having put over a years work, endless promotions and travel into the music, sales were initially fueled by the fandom, but never gained sustained momentum in the marketplace.  Now fans are beginning to question things, lack of sales, all those work demands and current image.  I didn't have internet access for 4-5 months and only heard Adam's name twice, ironically I learned to use the cell phone and apparently caught one of the first breakup reports.  You can be gay, but business is business and personal things are just that personal, but there are hundreds of gay spots to go to and not have 50 pics show up and in a way, I regard this as acting out, sort of like someone who got dumped acts.  This is a watershed moment in Adam's career, maybe revamp the stage show, fire the dancy friends, but something has to be done, outside of existing on the internet.  No one outside the fandom will tune in to see what's going on and the idea has to be to expand horizons, not do same old, same old.  I saw where Randy Jackson, suggested Adam pick a genre, he suggested rock and roll.  I think external and internal record industry pressures are at work here and Adam knows the resolution to the issues are not within his control. Club denizens don't buy too many CD's, they get it free off the net from YouTube and that's a big problem, but without mainstream influx of dollars, it's a losing battle.  I'm not certain AI is a viable possibility, in that image is important, regarding what you do outside of the show, which is not to offend middle America, the same ones who voted against Adam.  So perhaps Adam certainly knows all of this and more and can't see a way out the box, time to think outside the box.  Hell, bring Sauli back to lend a sense of responsibility to the mess. 2013 is almost half way thru and some hint of music should be coming out.