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Post by stardust on Jun 5, 2012 12:15:52 GMT -5
Which one Mix or Kiss???? Kiss 108 - Kiss 108 | Boston's Hit Music Station!
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Post by bullsfan on Jun 5, 2012 12:18:28 GMT -5
Finally Boston! Very good sign Regarding Adele, she had major promo. I think the label did a countdown to her release "The 30 Days of Adele" and her Rolling Stone cover came pretty early on. There was significant buzz for her release. Obviously, she exploded very organically on radio, but she DID have big promo.
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Jun 5, 2012 12:26:29 GMT -5
Girl - my shoulder is *still* aching from Freshtival! That kid is no longer lightweight! That said, as long as I can consistently use the enticement: "If you get dressed by yourself without whining, I'll play Trespassing in the car on the way to nursery school", I will love this album forever!!
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Post by gbam on Jun 5, 2012 12:27:41 GMT -5
That's my fear, but Rabbit is correct in that it is impossible to know what will happen at this point. I suspect that Adam being out of the country might hurt the progress of NCOE on US radio, but the UK is also an important market- so it is good that Adam has some great promo coming up over the next month! Like Rabbit stated, there have been some new spinners and the adds were pretty decent last week, so that could definitely be enough to give NCOE a second wind! Most of you will jump on me for bringing it back to Adele. I know Adam is not Adele. She is indeed an anomoly. But Adele did her initial rounds of the radio stations and promo and then just quit her PR efforts. She wasn't taaht big in the US. She went back to the UK. Someone like you, then RITD just grew organically as the song got spun in the US. Look at her sales, as a result. Disclaimer: I am not trying to compare Adam to Adele, just the Promo. If some of the biggies like Boston, Philly and NY, and maybe LA came on board and started spinning, his song could grow organically without promo and climb the charts, and therefore increase radio presence and album sales, even while he is Europe. We need some radio cooperation and his album could take off. It's a crap shoot. If they don't come on board, Adam will feel the reprocussions. Just thinking out loud here: To me it's like radio wants Adam to fail. They want that sophomore album slump. They want him to fail and go away. I do believe there is an agenda. I could be totally wet. But RCA, I feel has failed Adam, both songs to date released as singles do not represent the albums. Critics have bemoaned, why not different singles. We don't know radio politics, but I have to believe, radio is pushing The Wanted and One Direction because the target audiences just clamor for them. That target audience is not clamoring for Adam. He appeals to a more sophisticated and intelligent audience. Just musings. So just don't jump all over me !!!!!!! Adele crossed over from the Tripple A format though. Her rising to the top of that format was what go her album moving. Coupled with that, her album was then already released internationally and she was coming off that buzz. She was not a complete unknown artist in the US either as she won a Grammy in her first era and she appeared on the most buzzed about Saturday Night Life episode ie the Sarah Palin one. All these were some of the factors behind her success. Her story also shows having a strong format can take you very high on the game. Triple A spun her song enough to garner those audience impression that helped her sales just like the Alternative radio format did for Gotye and the AC format does for Micheal Bubble etc. Some of these outlier artists start selling enough to draw a notice from the POP pds. I agree with you that radio seems to have an agenda with Adam, but I do not agree the songs are parts of the problems. I am one of the few fans that even like BTIKM since similar songs chart on mainstream radio format all the time. Let's even agree radio did not like that, NCOE is an electronic radio song written by Bruno. Adam himself said that was the single radio said it would play. If radio eventually does not plat this after All the radio boxes ie 1. Adam doing radio promo and concerts 2. RCA gave Them their beloved Bruno written song. No Bruno song released by him as a single, written and sang by others or that he collaborated on has ever flopped. That is how blindly in love radio is with this guy (overrated to me personally). RCA I am Sure is working radio too from this angle hence why they insisted Adam should have a Bruno song on his album - well Adam recently opened up on one of his Canadian interviews the label suggested working with bruno to him as they also did with Pharey Williams. 3. It is an uptempo non lyrics threatening radio song. 4. Proved he does connect when given a chance based on his previous hits, no.1 album even without radio support 5. Have had almos all his singles chart on Billboard on debuts w/o radio play when most artists radio is pushing need to be played on heavy rotation for a few weeks before charting 6. His album is critically acclaimed and even the critics are touting it as a contender for POP album of the year etc. Personally to me, if radio still refuses to get on board after this, it would then be obvious to everyone watching the situation that they have an agenda with Adam.
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Post by tigerlily on Jun 5, 2012 12:47:08 GMT -5
Tigerlilly, I am not going to argue the point about Adele's promo. I read an in depth article in Rolling Stone magazine concerning Adele's PR. Her radio play grew organically, while she was not in the US. Don't have the link....It was in my hard copy. She did not catch on initially. That was after radio promo. It took her awhile, but once she did she flew. Her album had major promo. I saw it everywhere, it was "21 days of promo" for her album- which wasn't really only 21 days, but was the big promo push. That's the promo I was referring to. Adele is a once in a decade happening anyways! Why do people keep bring her up? Her trajectory defied all reason and broke every rule. The same thing is not going to happen to Adam or anyone else for several years to come. Adele is the exception, everything about her is an anomaly.
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Post by tigerlily on Jun 5, 2012 12:53:36 GMT -5
Personally to me, if radio still refuses to get on board after this, it would then be obvious to everyone watching the situation that they have an agenda with Adam. Where was their agenda during the WWFM and IIHY era? Did they all of a sudden become homophobic? Did the PDs just figure out Adam was gay? Maybe they liked his heavy make-up and wild feathers MORE than his plain look this era! YAY for Boston!!!!!
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Post by stardust on Jun 5, 2012 12:58:57 GMT -5
Exclusive: Clear Channel, Big Machine Strike Deal to Pay Sound-Recording Performance Royalties To Label, Artistswww.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/legal-and-management/exclusive-clear-channel-big-machine-strike-1007226762.storyIn an unprecedented deal, Clear Channel, the largest owner of U.S. radio stations, has agreed to pay sound-recording performance royalties to Scott Borchetta's Big Machine Label Group and its artists. The sound recording performance royalty -- which is also known as the artist performance royalty and is not to be confused with the songwriter performance royalty -- is something that record labels and artist have been fighting to obtain from U.S. radio for decades. Currently, in the U.S., they have only been successful in winning such a royalty in the digital radio space. As part of its deal with Big Machine, Clear Channel will pay an undisclosed percentage of music advertising revenue for broadcasts whether they are heard digitally or terrestrially, instead of the legislatively mandated sound-recording royalty for only digital, which currently is in the form of a pay-per-play royalty set at $0.002 for 2012. more...
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Post by stardust on Jun 5, 2012 13:01:23 GMT -5
Personally to me, if radio still refuses to get on board after this, it would then be obvious to everyone watching the situation that they have an agenda with Adam. Where was their agenda during the WWFM and IIHY era? Did they all of a sudden become homophobic? Did the PDs just figure out Adam was gay? Maybe they liked his heavy make-up and wild feathers MORE than his plain look this era! YAY for Boston!!!!! Guys, we've had this debate repeatedly and nothing has changed. It does no good to repeat it over and over. Please cease and desist!
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Post by rabbitrabbit on Jun 5, 2012 13:10:26 GMT -5
kind OT but tigerlily, have you been following 'Lights' at all? I like the song and it's seemed to be doing strange things on the charts, first it was on HAC, then it was removed as recurrent, then it was put back for a bit before being taken off? then it started moving up CHR and now it's back on HAC charts again? Or maybe I'm missing something and confused, but it seems like songs can have many strange trajectories and still eventually head upward.
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Post by tigerlily on Jun 5, 2012 13:14:00 GMT -5
Where was their agenda during the WWFM and IIHY era? Did they all of a sudden become homophobic? Did the PDs just figure out Adam was gay? Maybe they liked his heavy make-up and wild feathers MORE than his plain look this era! YAY for Boston!!!!! Guys, we've had this debate repeatedly and nothing has changed. It does no good to repeat it over and over. Please cease and desist!I agree, there is never an answer for why radio is suddenly homophobic? No one has an answer for that question. Q3 has made the same statement in this thread, which is: If they were okay with "the gay" last era, they are okay with it now!
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