cookeejar
Member
eyes baby eyes
Posts: 961
Location:
|
Post by cookeejar on Mar 20, 2011 16:46:02 GMT -5
i am putting this out to the universal gif god for a gif of Adam on Ellen when he is singing wwfm. Near the beginning of the song he sings a cappella, He is sing with his eyes closed and then he opens them with a look of wonder on his face, It is just so endearing and I think it would make a beautiful gif. I haven't a clue how gifs are made or who makes all these gifs. If this is emebbed it starts around 43 sec.
<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/I7F7Harvy7w" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
evidently I don't know how to embed.
|
|
|
|
Post by Q3 on Mar 20, 2011 16:47:34 GMT -5
Oh, I have no idea! Sorry! I was only looking at the words Adam chose and remembering many threads I've read (not here) in which someone claimed Adam was the first this or that, only to have a someome else contest that, and on and on an on. So, when I heard Adam say "States" I assumed he said that because there was someone "somewhere else"- I thought it was in UK for some reason.  My point was only how amused and impressed and . . . endeared to him I am by his carefulness - how careful he is to not presume anything or claim some "first" that someone else will claim he's not entitled to. He's probably more careful than he needs to be - like he's thinking, 'okay, I don't want to diss any underground singers who are gay,' etc. And how patient he makes himself be about it all when I would have to think it would all get so old. That's all. Sorry! Don't be sorry because it is really an interesting question. He is credited as the first major openly gay American Pop Artist all over the place. And I am not sure what the truth is. I was also surprised by the UK when I started looking people up. I knew most of the UK artist became successful first, came out second. But I really think Will Young is the first to come out first, release the album second. So it raises the question, without Simon Simon Fuller's Pop Idol, which gave us American Idol, give a shot to Will Young (PI 2002), Ferres (AI 2008), and finally Adam (AI 2009) -- would the music industry still be closed to openly gay male solo artists? Frankly, Adam is the one who really rewrote the rules IMHO -- because he made it in the US and broke through on radio while being a gay celebrity. No one really knew who Ferras was when Idol play HISA as the boot song. And is it just a coincidence that two close friends -- Ferres and Adam both got their break on Idol about the same time? |
|
JazzRocks
Member
The Crazy Train is Ready to Roll!
Posts: 4,280
Location:
|
Post by JazzRocks on Mar 20, 2011 16:47:51 GMT -5
www.examiner.com/music-in-san-francisco/adam-lambert-doesn-t-stand-alone-as-openly-gay-male-pop-star-six-musicians-to-check-outFrom the Examiner ( sorry) Nov 2009 right after the AMA's. There are 6 musicians listed - 4 I've never heard of and Scissor Sisters and Rufus Wainwright (one I was going to mention when the subject first surfaced). I fell down the Rabbit Hole of last night's stunning thread. It was too late to comment and thank god for that because anything I would have said would have seemed trite in comparison to all the fabulosity. I still have questions regarding Adam2 and his organic, genuine, real pronouncement but we seem to have veered off the topic for the present. I'll wait til it resurfaces.
|
|
jamie
Member
Posts: 685
Location:
|
Post by jamie on Mar 20, 2011 16:56:01 GMT -5
Regarding "the first openly gay artists signed to major labels"... Rufus Wainwright was openly gay at the start in 1996, but on DreamWorks , was that considered a mainstream label? It wasn't ever widely played on radio or a big seller but he was/is highly acclaimed. Wainwright's self-titled debut received critical acclaim;
Rolling Stone recognized it as one of the best albums of the year, and named the singer "Best New Artist" of the year. Wainwright was nominated for four awards by the Gay & Lesbian American Music Awards, including Album of the Year, Pop Recording of the Year and Video of the Year, and won for Best New Artist.[13][14] Rufus Wainwright won a GLAAD Media Award for Outstanding Music Album and a Juno Award for Best Alternative Album.[5][15] However, commercial success of the album was limited; the debut failed to chart in any country, though he ranked #24 on Billboard's Top Heatseekers chart.[16] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DreamWorks_RecordsETA: Jazzrocks just saw your RW mention.  |
|
|
|
Post by Q3 on Mar 20, 2011 16:59:52 GMT -5
Rufus Wainwright first album was not with a major label -- it was on Dreamworks. He got a major label contract for Album #6 All Days Are Nights: Songs for Lulu Released: March 23, 2010 on Decca. (post-Adam). He is an example of an artist who should have been signed to a major label but was not because he was openly gay. (He was also boxed out of US radio.)
Scissor Sisters has/had gay and straight band members. Seems to be to be a different category -- but two bandmembers where openly gay before they signed with Universal. I do not know where to classify them but they were not support in the US until recently. Pushed in the UK in 2004.
People underestimate how conservative the US Radio Industry has been regarding gay male artists. Most pulled Elton John off the radio when he came out. Most pulled Queen off the radio after Freddy did the video mockery of Coronation Street -- people in the US thought it was about cross dressing because we did have the program. And we did not get it. It is finally over -- but it was not easy. A lot has changed in the past 10 years.
Since you can't sell pop music in the US without radio, and radio wouldn't play gay artists, then you could not get signed. The internet and TV has changed it.
It is similar (although many fewer artists effected) to what happened in the US in the early 1950's when black artists were only played on "race" radio, and "mainstream" (AKA white) radio would not play even white artists doing "that kind" of music. It all started to fall apart in 1955-early 1956 -- just about 1 year after the Supreme Court found separate but equal unconstitutional -- followed by a 12 year battle for racial equality.
Hopefully, as the barriers to gay musicians, performers and artists fall, we will change our laws and culture to recognize full equality for all Americans.
Me too. I am still now sure that "organic" music is. Any help appreciated on that statement.
|
|
aloha
Member
Posts: 2,629
Location:
|
Post by aloha on Mar 20, 2011 17:02:04 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by chunkeymonkey81 on Mar 20, 2011 17:03:23 GMT -5
Here is all of Luna's "pantsology" stuff in one consolidated post because there were others....I confess I haven't read them.....but enjoy because I don't always have time to read all comments but I'l check it ater www.thehomeplanet.org/?p=65373#more-65373EDIT: Whoops you gals beat me to it. LOL |
|
|
|
Post by lulu2365 on Mar 20, 2011 17:07:50 GMT -5
The next tour ---- my dream ---- Adam Lambert Lust & Leather Tour --- a bit more rock, and more pyro -- and "Jim Morrison" leather pants. I've been gone for a couple of hours. I had expected you guys to have the tour promotion material designed by now. Exactly how do we let Adam know what the new tour name is going to be called. We should really let Him know. |
|
|
|
Post by 4Ms on Mar 20, 2011 17:12:00 GMT -5
On the question of Gay = homosexual -- it happened gradually. There is an excellent Wiki on the subject: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GayThe term is quite old but it did not become completely associated with homosexuality until the mid-1970's both in the US and UK about the same time. "Gay" was an adjetive until the 1970's -- when it started to be used as a noun. "Gays are ....." In the 1980 the "gay community" AKA LGBT community started to use the term LGBT to be more specific and to clarify the definition of the "gay community" in the US. This has now become a global term. I found a number of reliable online references and studies that trace the use of "gay" as an insult, to the 1970's, US and the UK. "That was so gay." Although this has been often perceived as a homophobic expression, it appears that it is often used with a completely different intent -- to mean "lame" as it is often used by the South Park kids. Whenever I hear the word gay used, I don't just think of "homosexual". Gaye is the name of a neighbor and friend of 25 years' sister. (No longer a neighbor and I seemed to have lost the friendship in the divorce.) My old friend's maiden name was Dyke. |
|
|
|
Post by gelly14 on Mar 20, 2011 17:18:03 GMT -5
Thank you!!!!!NEW BOOKMARK!!!!! CHUNKEY LOVED IT HAHAHA!!! |
|
