OK! I have now edited this post here on the request and great idea of Kay to create an index of sorts. Here you can find in list format what I've talked about and where it is! If anyone has suggestions to organize the index better than this...I'm all ears!
PRE-QUEEN WORK: This post includes all the Pre-Queen work of the four band members: The Reaction (Roger), 1984 (Brian), Left Handed Marriage (Brian), Art (John), The Opposition (John), Wreckage (Freddie), Sour Milk Sea (Freddie). Ibex (Freddie), The Famous Jug Band (Roger), and of course Smile (Brian & Roger) and Larry Lurex (Freddie with help from Brian & Roger), which led directly to Queen.
I just wanted to thank those members who bring such wonderful knowledge and insight and additional depth to our discussions, be it on vocal quality or on subjects like the 'deeper cuts' (Queen catalog) and many other topics.
*** Also, is there a place where there would be a good online Queen archive, kind of like 4msrmyn is building for us here? Any books that are really worthwhile to get a good overview. I have looked at and enjoyed the various youtube videos that tell 'the Queen story' (or the Freddie story for that matter), so I am aware of those.
So, any further direction you could give, please, that would be great. And I am sure there are others here, who will also appreciate?
Oh, and I love the Brian guitar solo you posted above. Have seen it multiple times and can't NOT click on it, whenever it gets posted by anyone here. Just love it.
I would also like to thank Talon for the perspective & information ref ardent Queen fans. Balance is good
Post by Craazyforadam on Jul 10, 2012 18:42:19 GMT -5
For those who have 'outgrown' the Greatest Hits (GH) album and would like to have some guidance on where to turn next, Talon provided further information for us (first step towards those 'deeper cuts' (= songs beyond the GH level):
As far as where to start, I would say that depends greatly on your taste. I don't want to make assumptions BUT for general Adam fanatics, I would think they wouldn't want to start with Queen or Queen II. Those are very fantasy based lyrics ogres, etc. It would probably be hard to get into those even though musically they are wonderful. BUT White Queen from Queen II would be a track to hunt down specifically. The only known songs would be Keep Yourself Alive from I and Seven Seas of Rhye from II. Queen II is my favorite album from the band. IT's a concept album and pure Freddie.
Sheer Heart Attack is the first time they went for radio. It's a ton of short songs but all very eclectic songs. I wouldn't say poppy but definitely less "progressive rock". Well known songs are Killer Queen, Now I'm Here, and Stone Cold Crazy (metal song)...just as a note one reason I like Queen what other tribute concert could open with Metallica and close with Liza Minelli? Personal fav though is In The Lap Of The Gods..Revisited - I was hoping they'd include it with QAL. (Sorry I can't bring myself to use Queenbert)
A Night At The Opera is their most acclaimed album. It's their Sgt Pepper....production to the fore -everything including the kitchen sink thrown in. Of course Bo Rhap is on it...Also includes 39, Love of My Life, You're My Best Friend, and I'm In Love With My Car - Underated track: The Prophet's Song.
A Day At The Races is kind of Son of A Night At The Opera - mostly recorded at the same time as Opera - includes Somebody To Love and Tie Your Mother Down - but some WONDERFUL deep cuts - Teo Toriatte (ballad to their Japanese fans), You Take My Breath Way (HAUNTING) and Millionaire Waltz.
News of The World was a new era - Stripped down and much more straight ahead rock - We Will Rock You/We Are The Champions/Spread Your Wings. Best track is It's Late - a great rocker with awesome vocals. Also a nice bluesy piano ballad by Freddie called My Melancholy Blues.
Jazz is a well liked album even if it's nothing groundbreaking - Fat Bottomed Girls/Bicycle race/Don't Stop Me Now are the known songs. Jealousy is a great piano ballad, Dead On Time a metal excursion, while Leaving Home Ain't Easy a great Brian sung ballad.
The Game - Pure attempt at pop rock with Crazy Little Thing/Another One Bites The Dust/Dragon Attack/Save Me (I don't know why they aren't having Adam tackle this one - one of my favs and he would do well with it.) Also includes the fine power pop of Need Your Loving Tonight, Piano ballad of Play The Game, and Brian's haunting Sail Away Sweet Sister.
Flash Gordon - music soundtrack - I love it, it's cheesy and it's very niche. Probably last on your list
Hot Space - The dreaded album among Queen fans when Queen attempted disco/dance music - Adam would probably like it...Under Pressure the best known. Staying Power is a good one, Dancer, Life Is Real (the song in Moscow).
The Works - the attempt to be a rock band again but turns out to be more of a pop album - Radio Ga Ga, Break Free. Highlight though undoubtedly is It's A Hard Life.
A Kind Of Magic - Hit or miss, mostly because it's a soundtrack - kinda. Who Wants To Live Forever, A Kind Of Magic are here. One Vision and Princes of the Universe great tracks.
The Miracle - Not highly rated by hardcore fans but I think it was a step back in the right direction - I Want It All is from here. But the best track is undoubtedly Was It All Worth It. Other highlights are Breakthru (would like to see Adam try this one) and The Miracle.
Innuendo - One of my favs - Show Must Go On/Days Of Our Lives are the known ones. Kind of a best of retrospective of the band. Some great progresssive Rock in Innuendo (REALLY wish they'd do this one), some gospel in All God's People, and a HAUNTING vocal in Don't Try So Hard. Also a fun track in I Can't Live With You (although a better version is found on the compilation Queen Rocks)
Made In Heaven - heartbreaking. Freddie's last tracks and some rerecorded solo tracks. Made In Heaven and I Was Born To Love You are from Freddie's solo career., Heaven For Everyone from Roger, Too Much Love Will Kill You from Brian's. Mother Love is Freddie's last recorded track, A Winter's Tale is his last written track. Let Me Live is a great gospelly track. Top notch.
QPR Cosmos Rocks - More Paul Rodgers dominated and far less campy. Not extremely well received but there are some gems. Roger's Small and Say It's Not True and Brian's Some Things That Glitter (Adam would do well with it I think)
To sum up? I think your best 4 choices are A Night At The Opera, The Game, Innuendo and Made In Heaven.
If anyone really wants to read it, I could sum up their various solo careers as well but I've probably written far more than will be read by most anyways
The Queen Crest was designed by Freddie in '72. It consists of two lions (Leo, the Zodiac-sign of Roger and John) holding up a Q (Queen) with a crown (royalty), a crab crawling on top of it (Cancer, Brian's sign), two fairies (Freddie's sign Virgo) in front of it, and a Phoenix (representing eternal rejuvenation (always remaining innovative, really a prophetic picture)) over the 'Q'. en.allexperts.com/q/Queen-566/Queen-Logo.htm
Something very positive from the Queen side of things that in this thread, I feel I can add even though it doesn't involve Adam. This year is the 25th anniversary of Freddie's solo album Barcelona which was a duet with Spanish Opera star Montserrat Caballe. It was a daring album combining a full on opera diva with a full on rock diva.
And while it has moments that are hit and miss, the bravery of this album shines through and musically it is some of Freddie's best composition.
However this is also very different. In the 80s due to many different factors, budget, time, scheduling Freddie and producer/co-writer Mike Moran used synthesizers and keyboards to mimic the orchestral backdrop. Some drum machines were also programmed. In this version the somewhat dated backing has been stripped away and in its place, a full 80 piece symphony orchestra backs the divas and that is just phenomenal. They have also added a real koto to the Japansese song La Japonaise and Rufus Taylor has added some real life percussion to the album as well.
This is quite an undertaking but just might make a masterpiece even greater
It's also the first news drop that has met unanimous positivity from the QOL boards. Then it was followed up with this:
Hot off the heels of last year's Days of Our Lives Queen bio, Freddie himself gets his own documentary about his solo work. Some nice unseen footage and done by the same team who did the brilliant Days...just beautiful
This is a sad sequence from the Days Of Our Lives Bio regarding Freddie's final days...the moment at the end when Roger reveals he was walking up to Freddie's house when he got the call to not come because Freddie had just died :(
But the bio was well done so I can't wait to see what the Freddie one will be
Talon.... did BM ever release just guitar record/album at all?
JUST guitar? No. He always based his guitar around the voice.
His 3 big releases were:
Star Fleet - a 3 track EP with a 12 minute blues instrumental jam with Eddie Van Halen
Back To The Light - which is probably the closest thing to a Queen album from their solo discs - this is the CD that includes Last Horizon as well as tBrian's version of Too Much Love Will Kill You (which some even like better than Freddie's) .
Another World - No instrumental really here but still some good guitar work .
If I had to pick one BM solo album, it would be Back To The Light. Some real beauties. BUT even better - during the BTTL time, pretty much every single he released, he put a 'Guitar version' of one of the songs on the B-Side where his guitar replaced his voice from the album version. AMAZING. In fact I used the Too Much Love Will Kill You one to make an extended remix with Freddie and Brian trading verses and adding some extra guitar moments. The three guitar songs were Too Much Love Will Kill You, Just One Life, and Nothin' But Blue.
'This world was never meant for one as beautiful as you'
from the song 'Vincent', by Don McLean
Oh absolutely, I mean it's a DIFFICULT song to sing. No doubt so a rest might be good.
And yes it is VERY special to Queen fans. I might have said this elsewhere (and it's mentioned in the bio in the Queen thread) but Brian told the story and I'll paraphrase:
'I heard this little run by Rog and John and I started writing lyrics with Freddie. We never talked about it but we both knew. I even asked him if he would be okay singing some of these lyrics. He looked up, smiled and said, "I will give it my all, dear".
And then later Freddie was very sickly and could barely stand at times. So he'd give it a try and it wasn't good enough for him, so he propped himself up on the mixing desk as he was too tired to really stand, downed a few vodkas, and really let it rip and it was quite possibly the best vocal he'd put down on a Queen track"
So yeah, it definitely has a lot of meaning to Queen fans and to Brian especially.
'This world was never meant for one as beautiful as you'
from the song 'Vincent', by Don McLean
Post by Craazyforadam on Jul 13, 2012 13:37:33 GMT -5
Last fall when this all started, I was directed to this concert - Montreal/1981. Not that any of us has time right this minute to watch another full length concert, but this is wonderful. As great a talent as Freddie was, the other three are/were just as talented in their own ways IMO. I was floored by one of Roger's drum solos. When things slow down here, I must watch it again...
Queen On Fire: Live at The Bowl - Milton Keynes 1982 is another great concert DVD - from just a little after Montreal. Some of the dancy pop stuff from Hot Space is on it but done in more of a rock fashion...the intro will be a bit similar Features a great Somebody To Love and Save Me
'This world was never meant for one as beautiful as you'
from the song 'Vincent', by Don McLean
Talon, I have more questions about Queen. (Just FYI... before Adam, the only Queen I heard of was Queen of England and when I started following Adam he mentioned Queen and Freddie Mercury. I then started searching these group/individual he mentioned in his interview. I did hear BoRap, WWRY and WATC but was never aware of who wrote them or who were the original artists associated with them :D )
1. The red guitar Brian May is talking about in the Poland press conference, is he still using this guitar and if so, when was the last time you saw him using it?
2. Technology question: I used to see all these cables attached to guitars (even now I see those attachment in other bands). Are those cables attached to amplifiers? How come I don't see that anymore with Brian May's guitars lately? How are they connected to amplifiers?
3. There was once an interview of Brian May where he contemplated of committing suicide but did not go though it when he thought of his family and kids. Did this happen right after Freddie's death and was that the reason why he joined a non-Queen band to get him out of depression?
4. When Queen decided to temporarily split, didn't Roger release his own record just as Freddie did? Were Brian and John the only Queen members who did not release anything during that period? Who did Freddie record his album with and how about Roger? Did each of them go back to their previous band to record?
5. What was the name of the album/record Queen produced after the Live Aids event? Was that the last one?
6. Brain May talked in his soapbox about the parallels of Freddie/Adam. Based on that, during the QPR tour/recording, did Paul also bring his own band to join the stage when performing?
Too many questions but I am really fascinated by Queen. I did buy a Queen DVD, not the music but a documentary of the band's evolution and how they all came about as a group. Hope you have time to answer these questions and thank you again for your contributions to this forum. I really appreciate your input and also for sharing the QAL flac files. Thank you again, Talon.
In order to convert FLAC files, download Any Audio Converter from the site below. Install it and follow the simple instructions Then you can convert the FLAC files to Mp3. www.any-audio-converter.com/
The uploader said that they recorded Day 2 as well and will be uploading that in a few days so we'll have to see. I haven't heard much about Day 3 so I'll keep my eyes open.
As a bonus (and I hope it ain't stepping on too many toes...) I know some have been interested in Queen as well due to the collaboration. I have uploaded two decent quality old school Queen concerts...from the Hammersmith The first was on December 24th, 1975 and the second on December 26th 1979.
I'll put the rest of the information about those gigs in the Queen thread. But here are the links
Since these were from a different source, I have already converted those into Mp3 for you.
A little history now:
The 1975 gig was filmed and broadcast on the BBC. It was mentioned in the Queen/AL press release as being prepared for DVD release. Hopefully this comes sooner than later - a clean copy of this would be amazing.
The 1979 gig was from a set of concerts set up by Paul McCartney to help the people of Kampuchea. Some Queen fans consider this their favorite gig ever...or at least this era of gigs.
Great gigs and while they are 70s so they don't have a lot of the 80s hits (no Under Pressure/Ga Ga/Break Free/Forever) they will introduce you to some of the 70s classics in somewhat different ways. In 1975 for example they were still unsure how to do Bo Rap so they opened the concert with an operatic tape and then went into the rock section. They later on did the ballad section as a part of a medley with other tracks! You also get White Queen (my personal fav Queen track - the first real power ballad ), and some tracks you will recognize - Killer Queen, Keep Yourself Alive Seven Seas Of Rhye - and some covers like Jailhouse Rock, Big Spender, and Stupid Cupid. All in all a gret gig.
The 1979 gig brings some more familiar tracks: We Will Rock You, Somebody To Love, Save Me, You're My BEst Friend, Love Of My Life, Crazy, Keep Yourself Alive, 39, Don't Stop Me Now etc.
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