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Post by talon on Mar 4, 2015 9:05:54 GMT -5
Hey all, I just wanted to let you all know up here that in addition to my Queen Archive, I created a Queen + Through the Years thread which will take at non-Freddie performances of Queen songs and putting them up against each other...from a big Queen fan who is quite open to hearing others take on the catalogue ALSO though in an effort to take care, now that QAL is on hiatus I created a Queen NEWS thread for you all that will include NON Adam news bits like this little nugget that came in today: http://instagr.am/p/zyBXdLC4gj From now on I'll throw it in the Queen NEWS thread so anyone interested who doesn't want to leave ATOP can head there To tie it in - Carmen Vandenberg (the girl in the pic) attended Wembley: http://instagr.am/p/zhj-DBi4uO
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Post by talon on Mar 4, 2015 9:00:16 GMT -5
First small bit of news comes today.... http://instagr.am/p/zyBXdLC4gj Carmen Vandenberg is an up and coming guitarist in London. She has worked with Kate Nash a punk rocker type grrrrl with attitude mostly! I had never heard of her before but I read up on her and she seems to know her stuff. I wonder what they are working on! Looking through her instagram I found out she went to Wembley for QAL http://instagr.am/p/zhj-DBi4uO
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Post by talon on Mar 4, 2015 8:56:41 GMT -5
I decided to create a separate thread here outside of the Queen discussion (since there is a forum) thread as I'll try to leave that for my archive of Queen info & perhaps q/a stuff. THIS thread I'll mark for any news about Adamless Queen so I can keep that stuff out of the main thread....mostly. BIG release I still may pop in there to let you know as I don't expect everyone to come down here
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Post by talon on Mar 4, 2015 8:53:15 GMT -5
Hi, Talon.......I'm sorry if you've probably have answered these questions already so you can just link me to the answers Just in case not .... If I did I'll just answer it here anyways I don't have a great answer here. I'm really not sure why Love Kills wasn't continued. All I can guess is that they wanted to shake up the set list a little for leg 2. I'm glad they did to give us an alternative although I would have liked to see them alternate a bit. I mean Forever had been out for a few months by the time UK/Eu rolled around BUT it was still the first time performing in those areas and I really bet London would have LOVED to have heard Love Kills as it was probably best known there...*SHRUG* Not really. I mean it isn't an area specific popular song....although it was more popular in the UK/Eu than in North America. It is on Greatest Hits and was a decent selling single, but it's never been a hugely popular number. I think it's kind of a dark horse where it's more popular than numbers would suggest and I know a ton of fans were happy to see it reappear -- I myself had called for it back when QAL started as I thought Adam would do a great job with it (*pats myself on the back*) I can say a couple of things about this - nothing is a definitive answer but intuition. One Vision: - One Vision was NOT a hit or that well known in the US so that's one reason B&R wouldn't use it in the States - The band had just finished working on Rainbow which opened with Procession/Now I'm Here so it was fresh in their mind - One Vision was the song that opened up the last Freddie tour in 1986. They tried it again in 2008 with Paul Rodgers for a few shows (and a somewhat shortened version) but it never seemed to gel for the band and after like 4 shows it was dropped and then they tried a couple of things before settling on opening with a shortened Hammer To Fall instead transitioning into Tie Your Mother Down (which I've ALWAYS thought worked better at the front of the show...song #2 or whatever...but that's me) - Hammer To Fall didn't work well imo but ah well! - Again the last point would be the same answer I gave you for the substitution of Save Me for Love Kills - perhaps it was just a victim of the "shake the setlist up a little" Thanks for the questions - Wish I had more concrete answers for you I have to come back and update this thread too...start the 2015 live appearances :D That and continuing my Queen + comparisons and...my (soon to be launched) Queen news thread (to keep it out of the Adam thread now that QAL is on hiatus )
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Post by talon on Mar 3, 2015 13:51:21 GMT -5
I didn't realize that Rufus wrote a song with Roger for his album. Kit @kitkatclub 15m15 minutes ago “@queenfacts1991: Roger's son Rufus co-wrote 'Be with You' on his solo album 'Fun on Earth'. www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxG6dEsgOT8 …” @veroniqueorcel
Indeed and he also plays piano on it. During an interview with Nick at QOL about FoE, Roger stated that the piano riff was something Rufus had shown Roger once or twice but Rufus either was confident about it or didn't know what to do so Rog came in and crafted the song with Rufus So This is a father/son song in just about every way - With the exception of Kevin Jeffries on bass Roger and Rufus co-wrote it. Rufus plays piano, Roger sang, drummed, and played that bluesy guitar.
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Post by talon on Mar 2, 2015 18:00:12 GMT -5
I certainly have no ninja skills when it comes to Adam's movement....BUT I can add/corroborate some of the Queen content! My replies in red: We have very different source and they seem to line up. It is interesting. On Adam, no one can find out what is going on. No one. All we are learning is what they want us to know. {stamps feet, and pouts!} Thankfully, soon will be here in about 30 days! ** On the off chance that Brian stands for Parliament and wins -- oddsmakers had him at 25 to 1 -- and that is from Feb 4th because we can't access the odds from the US. Then touring is probably out. ** You are so right about hype from Queen-world, particularly Brian who tends to be excited about everything, and what to do everything, and who never rules anything out. Indeed! I hope Brian does NOT go for Parliament. Besides the selfish I'd rather hear him making music...I also think he doesn't quite know what he's in for and I think being in Parliament is the kind of the thing that will make him far more cynical and honestly break him a bit. He'll be knocking his head against the wall and trying desperately to do what he thinks is right and not be able to quite do so. And Queen's machine is a bit like Adam fans where the latest bit or product is "the best one yet!"
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Post by talon on Mar 2, 2015 17:38:32 GMT -5
mmadamimadamm @mmadamimadamm 1h1 hour ago #PoorPaul RT @alexandermorner: From latest number of Q-magazine... LOL! #PoorPaul #GoAdam
HA! I found the whole article here whole article here - it's about bands who have replaced a member to varying degrees of success. The one thing I disagree with, however, is "desecration of legacy". The Paul era is one that gave fans the chance to experience Queen music (along with Free and Bad Co music) live, and it made a bunch of fans happy during that particular time. The reviews were not quite glowing, and The Cosmos Rocks is an album that all parties involved would like to forget about, but absolutely NOTHING that happened in the QPR era has wrought any damage to the Queen legacy. What Freddie and Co built was not torn down by Brian and Roger touring with a frontman who did not quite fit. In the end, the QPR era will be a minor footnote in Queen history, largely forgotten by the general public (anyone who did not attend a show). No "legacy desecrating". The same logic applies to QAL - what's happening now does not at all change what's happened in the past. I always feel my blood pressure rise when people complain about "MUH LEGACY THO!!!", because there is nobody thinking anything less of historical Queen other than the basement dwellers who spam the youtube and Queen Facebook page comment sections. If anything, QAL is enhancing the Queen legacy because it's getting more people into Queen music AND it's generating incredibly positive press for all parties - Brian, Roger, Adam, and Queen as a band (their songwriting, live productions, and staying power (no pun intended)). Amen! I have nothing but respect for Paul. Paul, even before Adam, got Brian and Roger to play together again! The UK/European/South American portions of the tours were sellouts and most people who went have said they had a great time. I know I did. AND I *STILL* think Cosmos Rocks is a bit underrated. It's not a classic and all 3 men have done better but it was a bit of a weird marriage and it's still worthy of a spin.
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Post by talon on Mar 2, 2015 17:36:53 GMT -5
I certainly have no ninja skills when it comes to Adam's movement....BUT I can add/corroborate some of the Queen content! My replies in red: Queen-world, on the other hand, is much easier to get info from. Partly because there are some many people involved. Hot Queen + Adam Lambert rumors -- there are dozens! Here are my favorite RUMORS -- the bolded ones are the ones where I have direct info from someone in a position to know. The regular font ones are second-hand info. --- > Have they (Brian, Roger and Adam) already been in studio? I am told no, they have not been in studio together for a Queen project. My source does not have any idea about Adam's album, just Queen projects.I concur. B,R and A have NOT been in the studio together. With that being said, I'm being told that B & R may be begun the slow process of tinkering with ideas towards songwriting. Nothing big....BUT it's still a sense of moving towards some eventuality. I've been told it's all been on an individual basis as of now. > Will they work on new Q+AL music? Seems possible to me but a very good source close to Queen-world tells me Adam's schedule does not permit this to happen now. My source says he has the impression that Adam does not want to be involved with any new Q+AL releases until after TOH has been released, promoted and he sees what happens with his solo music.Being told that all involved do want to do something but I agree Adam is now concentrating on his efforts before he can even think of committing to anything further than RiR/South America/Live DVD in the QAL world. Everything else is kind of let's see what happens in a few months. One step at a time kind of thing...> Almost confirmed but not official: They are touring South America in September - 3 country, mini tour - Brazil (RiR official), Argentina, Chile. They will not announce other tour dates until after RiR tickets are on sale for a month. So do not expect to hear about other dates until May. Argentina might be a stadium show. Again I concur - NOTHING announced until RiR is on sale for a month. They have toyed with a stadium gig...but I've heard that the stadium gigs wouldn't happen til later. From what I hear SA is going to be big arenas....I could be wrong.> There is a persistent rumor that Queen-world is planning a stadium/big outdoor set version for some big event NOT RiR for Summer 2016 in London or the UK. Glastonbury 2016 seems to be in the mix. I have heard this as well. Many of the big festivals have been wanting to get Queen for a while with or without Adam. As far back as 2009 they've been trying for some UK type festivals...At this point though Queen isn't doing any big shows without Adam....A one off appearance with Foo Fighters wouldn't beout outruled because that is a guest appearance with friends, not a tour or full on concert.> RUMOR They will go to South Africa after South America -- so they can finish the world. A close friend got this bit from a Queen source. 50/50 shot here is what I'm hearing.> RUMOR The Live DVD will be released in early 2016 and there will be a super deluxe version. The DVDs will include performances from 4 concerts plus footage and BTS stuff from many locations. I was told by a Queen-related source who is working on DVD that this could be the best Live Queen release ever. They have amazing footage and audio recordings to work with. (That end bit could be just hype or true.) This is kind of what I'm hearing too....although the ending bit sounds like typical Queen camp hype. Not saying it's not...but saying that it's always said. Right now part of the issue is that Queen is working on the next archive release first - one reason it'll take til 2016 to get it done. I believe they are working on Hammersmith 75 at least if not including it in some kind of Live Killers Box Set. I think they figure if they can wait til 2016 they can include bits from RiR. And I don't think it's 4 full performances. I think it would be the equivalent of one show but maybe taken from a few different sets. I could be wrong there though.> RUMOR There will be another Q+AL Big Tour -- I am told that they will not decide until the dust settles but that Q+AL will continue to perform. I am told that a lot depends on Brian's and Roger's health, their willingness to take on another tour, and promoters ability to get insurance. A source in Queen-world tells me that a mini-tour in 2016 and a couple big TV events is more likely. *** I honestly believe that Adam is also a bit of a wildcard here. If TOH is huge, he can do a solo arena tour and Q+AL looks less attractive. If TOH is not huge, Q+AL may look really attractive. I'm being told B&R did have a blast...Roger is ready to go tomorrow despite him being tired. He really kind of looks at it as what else am I going to do? He never sets the world alight with his solo releases and I think that kind of hurts a bit so he tends to not want to do them. He puts his soul into the releases to not get much feedback so he'd almost rather would not do it but he knows the crowd is there for a big Queen show so he is ready. Brian wants to do it but Brian wants to do everything - I wonder if he takes a little time away if he may get distracted...we'd have to see. I ALSO agree on Adam. I long ago said that a lot will hinge on ToH. If ToH is huge than he's going to be pressured to follow it up and promote and might not have as much time for QAL. If ToH goes the way of say Trespassing (Big opening but a big petering out) than Adam will have more of an open schedule...and as we all know a Queen tour will definitely pay his bills AND how does that work with a studio recording. I think Rog and Bri will say that you can only tour on Queen nostalgia for so long, so something new artistically will be necessary to move forward. > RUMOR Adam has some conflict for Q4 2015 and is not available to do much with Q+AL until 2016. A close friend got this bit from a Queen source. *** I did not hear this. But it could be right!
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Post by talon on Mar 2, 2015 1:00:05 GMT -5
Agreed! But I figure - worth noting it here...in case
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Post by talon on Mar 2, 2015 0:32:17 GMT -5
Third hand information, that is like concrete in this fandom. hmmm mark me down as sceptical. Why would they not use the various studio spaces available to Queen in EU, if they were just trying a few things, seeing how it goes. Instead of formally booking something in the US, which apparently will get quite a bit of attention. Montreux, CH or England? For the record it didn't say where the studio space was...not in the US...just that they had made plans...in fact it could very well be that the reports were saying that they were just going to convene in the studio. And you are right - for this type of exploratory time in the studio they'd probably use Roger's home studio. So who knows...
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