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Post by skaschep on Feb 17, 2017 13:05:59 GMT -5
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Post by skaschep on Feb 17, 2017 13:06:26 GMT -5
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Post by skaschep on Feb 17, 2017 13:06:55 GMT -5
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Post by skaschep on Feb 17, 2017 13:07:25 GMT -5
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Post by Q3 on Feb 17, 2017 13:07:49 GMT -5
No, not sure that exact phrase was every a slur in the US, but, the idea of Jews being cheap is used as a slur and is part of a very negative stereotype -- "Shylock"* for example is used as a slur -- and it's embedded in anti-Semantic nonsense which unfortunately is alive and well in the US -- although not widespread like it was in the past and mostly hiding under rocks and online. I think Adam was trying to be funny -- and really was not thinking about it when he said it. Sounded a bit like a "girlfriend" comment. I'm Jewish and I was not offended by it for what that's worth. That said, John Stewart (and other Jewish comedians) has done some very funny bits about being a "cheap Jew" and no one seemed to bothered by it. I think that it fits into the category of things a "group member" can make jokes about but other people should just leave unsaid. Adam is Jewish and he is "sort of" frugal. Thankfully, it has literally been decades since I have been directly confronted by anything truly hateful. But.... 11.17.16 During this past year, anti-Semitic imagery proliferated on social media, Jewish journalists were targeted and longstanding anti-Jewish conspiracy theories got a fresh airing. Much of the bias originated with the alt-right, or alternative right, a loose group espousing a provocative and reactionary strain of conservatism. It's often associated with far right efforts to preserve "white identity," oppose multiculturalism and defend "Western values."
In addition to the online intimidation, reports of anti-Semitic vandalism and other attacks have risen.
Link: fortune.com/2016/11/17/anti-semitism-donald-HeWhoCannot amed-jews/ * Scholars still debate the meaning and origin of this hateful character in The Merchant of Venice. But no one debates that it is a term that is highly offensive. It is so damn horrible and sad to read that. One of the younger doctors at my workplace was jewish, she was here working for 5 years, till she got a good offer for a better position last year. She once had night shift with me, it was a night without much trouble and we talked a little bit about life for the jewish communities in Germany today. Here it is not only the extreme rights that are making the slurs and behaving hateful to the extreme, but also the extreme left that are behaving the exact same way. The rights are saying there was no Holocaust, the left are saying what is happening in Israel with palestine is worse than the Holocaust. She told me she was once coming out of the Synagoge with the rest of her community under Police protection and from one end of the street the rights were shouting " Jews should disapear and Jews into gas" and one week later there was a huge demonstration in front of the Synagoge when the lefts and exil palestinians and others were shouting "Child killer Israel and Jews into Gas" She said that in these Situations , Jewish People just can not win. Friends off her had nearly the same Situations happen in some Universities in UK and France. I find it absolutely horrific that Jewish people have so many ignorant People against them, Lefts and Rights, Christians and Muslims. I fear for the coming times for our sisters and brothers of jewish believe. I am so sorry that i drag down this fun filled day, maybe my mind is in overreaction. I had a couple hard days at work, sorry guys. I normaly want to come here and be positive and not drag anything down. Sorry Honestly, I too usually leave any serious thoughts off this website, but it is hard to be Jewish and not notice some of the nonsense out there. When Adam said that -- the part that struck me was he right out of the gate described himself as a Jew. I didn't even notice the word frugal at first. But imagine being an out, gay, celebrity, Jew in HeWhoCannot amed's America. Yipes!! I can't imagine what is gong through his head. In the US, however, the people who are really under assault are Muslims and Immigrants. And, while the ADL has reported a steep rise in antisemitism, it is still thankfully rare, very rare. And there is no apparent increase in LBG hate crimes. The exception is Transgender hate crimes which have been more frequent (my quick math leads me to believe it is in proportion to the increase in the number of Trans Americans -- now around 1.4 million Americans.) But my synagogue in Mississippi has to pay for special police protection and recently had a credible bomb threat (involving the FBI.) And in an interesting odd-bedfellows situation, our local Mosque also was threatened. >> I promise this is my last post on this topic -- at least today. Now back to Adam and how gorgeous he looked last night -- and he looked like he was 25 years old!!
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Post by skaschep on Feb 17, 2017 13:07:55 GMT -5
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Post by skaschep on Feb 17, 2017 13:09:32 GMT -5
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Post by Q3 on Feb 17, 2017 13:21:25 GMT -5
He was gorgeous. In the US, Jewish comedy is a very important part of our culture -- very different than in Europe in my experience. And American Jewish comedians have been making fun of their Jewishness since at least the mid-ninetieth century. And some of what has been done here really pushed boundaries. For example, Mel Brooks did the Producers in 1968. It is hard to imagine an America without the Three Stooges, Marx Brothers, John Stewart, Larry David, Carl Reiner, Woody Allen, Mel Brooks, John Rivers, Jerry Lewis, Don Rickles, George Burns, Sid Caesar, Billy Crystal, Adam Sandler, Gene Wilder, Louis Black, Peter Sellers, etc. etc. etc. [I am sure that someone has put together a Wiki of Jewish comedians but that is off the top of my head. Sorry for any misspellings.) We even have a Jewish comic in the US Senate - Al Franken. Oh, and Gilda Radner!! Jewish comics To add Sarah Silverman,Amy Schumer,Roseanne Barr,Andy Kaufman,Mort Saul,Jerry Seinfeld,Rodney Dangerfield and maybe sometimes Adam Lambert ... Thanks for the additions -- and there are still more!! Surprisingly -- almost all the Jewish comedians are decedents of people who emigrated to the US and Canada from Eastern Europe-Russia. Now for a list of the Italian American comics .....Jay Leno, Dean Martin, ??
And you are so right -- Adam can be very funny. And if he ever wanted to do a Jewish stand-up comedian routine, he could pull it off. Particularly with a couple great joke writers!
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Post by col on Feb 17, 2017 13:29:13 GMT -5
Jewish comics To add Sarah Silverman,Amy Schumer,Roseanne Barr,Andy Kaufman,Mort Saul,Jerry Seinfeld,Rodney Dangerfield and maybe sometimes Adam Lambert ... Thanks for the additions -- and there are still more!! Surprisingly -- almost all the Jewish comedians are decedents of people who emigrated to the US and Canada from Eastern Europe-Russia. Now for a list of the Italian American comics .....Jay Leno, Dean Martin, ??
And you are so right -- Adam can be very funny. And if he ever wanted to do a Jewish stand-up comedian routine, he could pull it off. Particularly with a couple great joke writers!
I LOVE Roseanne Barr and Mel Brooks and yeah i absolutely believe that Adam would make a fantastic stand-up comedian but i always hope for him to have a cool Talk show some day, or a something like the Diva show some day again. He is so eloquent and much less forced cheerfull than some of the known Talk Show Hosts. And because i want to think now only happy thoughts Today, 4 years ago in Korea, this happened www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISY6Pz3kxeY&list=PL32oQxtHQxLxaWXlYKCRgPdKPXQiOdztm&index=6
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Post by AnnAdoresAdam on Feb 17, 2017 13:45:42 GMT -5
For you, to lift your spirits!
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