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Post by katycake on Mar 16, 2017 19:47:00 GMT -5
Honestly, RCA's handling of era 2 almost killed his solo career. And we know from interviews, since then, that it did affect Adam's spirit and confidence. A lesser artist might not have survived. Thank heaven for WBR and Max Martin and QAL. I truly feel QAL helped him to see his place is definitely in the music business! And it gave him swag and confidence! Plus, lots of $$$! Love Brian and Roger forever! RCA's incompetence was staggering, FURCA is soooo justified. WBR is a totally different ball game but I do have a grudge there as well. The reason is the choice of ALN as the 2nd single. IMO it killed the TOH (the album) trajectory...AU's apathy towards the brilliant TOH the song was the result of ALN IMO... I hope in the future they will stop trying to release a WWFM "look alike"- BTIKM, NCOE, ALN - enough already! Can you imagine if we had Cockoo, Fever, Shady, TOH - all released as singles? I am praying Era 4 choices and roll out will be perfect. Adam is 35...not the perfect age for pop / EDM market IMO... For the FYE era, there was that guy in RCA (what was his name? I forget) that "got" Adam, and things went kind of smooth. Once he was out, there was no one there who understood Adam's appeal, and they started treating him like any other AI alum: try and squeeze a few $$ for minimum investment, and a garbage bin for pending deals: You still owe Dr. Luke a single, according to your deal? - Stick it on an AI alum! Sorry, but that's how I see it. They shoved these two Trespassing singles down Adam's throat, I'm pretty sure. Now Warner got deals too, and they're far from perfect, but at least they understand that Adam's got a wider appeal and the secret is letting him be exactly who he is. I said before that I believe the choice of ALN was because of a deal with MM, to choose songs that he wrote as the first two singles, and invest a certain amount of money promoting them. Once they didn't succeed with ALN, they had no more money to promote a third single. ETA this somehow seems to fit here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz3Ruvp9S8Y
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Post by girldrummer on Mar 16, 2017 20:46:24 GMT -5
IMO, the lyrics of Shady could be about anyone going to an under ground club to dance the night away and be weird and freaky in many other ways. Tell me. What about these lyrics is "Gay" or for that matter, even X rated? IMO, nothing! The only problem with Shady and Trespassing and Cuckoo not being released as singles was FURCA. Radio embraced Ghost town. i think they would have embraced Cuckoo and/or any other dance song from Adam as the first Trespassing single. Personally, i think they were waiting for his freak flag to fly and BTIKM was a disappointment to them. I know for a fact, that Adam fully expected Cuckoo to be the first single from that album. And I think we pretty much all know, that he wanted Trespassing as the 2nd single. FURCA is a big sore point with me. I though i was over it, but I guess from this rant, I am not! Here are the lyrics:Shady
Adam Lambert
Baby, I’m on the hunt
Baby, I got my target on you
Trouble, that’s what I want
And I’m gonna do
Just what I have to
Get your ass down to the front
Go on and roll it out, I dare you
Sorry I’m kinda drunk
But did you just say your game was brand new
No, I ain’t broken, but I need a fix
That satisfaction when I, I get my kicks
I’m up all night, I’m outta sight
Don’t turn on the light
'Cause I’m feeling so shady lately
Come on and take me underground
Deep under the street
Come on and take me, take me down
Where freaks like us can meet
Turn it up, turn it up, turn it up
Turn it way up, don’t stop the beat
Come on and turn me, turn me out
'Cause I’m feeling so shady lately
Gonna go and get me a shot
Gonna knock it back, forget all my blues
Yeah, that…
I agree with you about Shady. Adam is gay and a lot of times fans look for anything that might mean gay when it could actually be sung by anyone else with no problem. Like when he sang Beth. That was a KISS song but it somehow became gay when Adam sang it. Shady reminded me of my heavy club days in the South and none of my group (male or female) were gay as far as I know. We were wild tho and more so when a gal from NY came to campus and joined our group. She was crazy but fun, lol. Even with Fever we don't know if the pronoun keep it off the air, do we? When Adam releases music I look for a common meaning instead of looking for meanings about his sexuality. I think Smokey Robinson said it best on Idol. He said Motown and Barry Gordy wanted to make music that appealed to all and not only Black people. It did not mean they were denying their blackness or running away from who they were. They just wanted to reach a broad audience. I think Adam makes a lot of his music vague because he wants everyone to relate to his feelings and meaning, which a lot of times would be universal. If he throws in a tune that is community specific that is fine as well. But I even heard a stupid DJ on my station say that when he heard IIHY he could only think about Adam with a man. That was someone looking for a reason not to play the darn song which he barely played. Ugh. As to Shady lyrics: "turn me out" is a term used to describe a woman being put out for prostitution. So it means showing up for sex. And I always thought the line was "Go ahead and pull it out, I dare you." Not "roll it out." Either way, it is graphically sexual . I must have missed the "official" lyrics to Shady that I assume were published. Shady is right up there as one of my all-time favorite Adam songs. I LOVE IT! I wish with all my heart that it had become a single. Heck, it still could be, IMO. Hardly anyone out there has heard it except us Adam fans. And Fever is a hidden gem, too. And the "there he goes" is so mild and innocuous now. I pray that Warner Bros. gives A4 a strong promo run. Lord knows, Adam has worked long enough and hard enough to get a good song on the radio by now. (I know Ghost Town did very well, but it wasn't a mega-hit.) I know that newer, younger artists are always nipping at the heels of the current stars, and sometimes overtaking them with just one big song that smashes through to the top. That's the way it goes. But Adam deserves much more than he's gotten. Warner is way better than what he had before, but Warner has to really ramp it up and give him everything they've got.
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Post by shimoli710 on Mar 16, 2017 20:48:32 GMT -5
RCA's incompetence was staggering, FURCA is soooo justified. WBR is a totally different ball game but I do have a grudge there as well. The reason is the choice of ALN as the 2nd single. IMO it killed the TOH (the album) trajectory...AU's apathy towards the brilliant TOH the song was the result of ALN IMO... I hope in the future they will stop trying to release a WWFM "look alike"- BTIKM, NCOE, ALN - enough already! Can you imagine if we had Cockoo, Fever, Shady, TOH - all released as singles?I am praying Era 4 choices and roll out will be perfect. Adam is 35...not the perfect age for pop / EDM market IMO... I can imagine ... and it still hurts.
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Post by girldrummer on Mar 16, 2017 20:53:44 GMT -5
I am surprised that they are still sending out tweets. Is that a typical thing? May be there is a remake in the works? I wouldn't mind actually. DH and I admitted to each other the other day that we do miss the show even though it wasn't always exciting, especially after Adam's run. But other singing competitions won't do it for us. I just tweeted them back and pimped Adam a bit Yes, I think someone said here that the show was bought by NBC? I'm in the group who doesn't want to see AI come back. I know some of us here wouldn't mind, but I think the genre is on the wane. Even The Voice. I'm so grateful that AI gave us Adam, but I just don't have the desire or commitment to watch a bunch of new singers each week, regardless of a "new format" etc. Adam is so high-quality and so talented. I guess my energies are focused on him.
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Post by bamafan on Mar 16, 2017 21:07:23 GMT -5
For tomorrow, St Patrick's Day....
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Post by enchanted on Mar 16, 2017 21:09:53 GMT -5
I am hoping for some great music, something that will be embrace by the masses so it can be a success!
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Post by happy on Mar 16, 2017 21:49:36 GMT -5
Just checked the Shady lyrics and it is "roll it out." I always hear "pull it out." lol
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Post by willowgarden on Mar 16, 2017 22:13:00 GMT -5
Kιℓℓεr Quεεn @beatsoflambert 20h20 hours ago In every show, behind the Queen curtain, stands a king waiting to meet his audience impatiently ❤️ This has to be the first song but what show was it from?
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Post by Q3 on Mar 16, 2017 22:38:06 GMT -5
Considering some of the mainstream lyrics nowadays, I can't imagine how the lyrics to "Shady" would be a problem, but then again it's Adam Lambert singing those lyrics ... #DoubleStandard (same reason why "Fever" was never a single. Sucks.) IMO, the lyrics of Shady could be about anyone going to an under ground club to dance the night away and be weird and freaky in many other ways. Tell me. What about these lyrics is "Gay" or for that matter, even X rated? IMO, nothing! The only problem with Shady and Trespassing and Cuckoo not being released as singles was FURCA. Radio embraced Ghost town. i think they would have embraced Cuckoo and/or any other dance song from Adam as the first Trespassing single. Personally, i think they were waiting for his freak flag to fly and BTIKM was a disappointment to them. I know for a fact, that Adam fully expected Cuckoo to be the first single from that album. And I think we pretty much all know, that he wanted Trespassing as the 2nd single. FURCA is a big sore point with me. I though i was over it, but I guess from this rant, I am not! Here are the lyrics:Shady
Adam Lambert
Baby, I’m on the hunt
Baby, I got my target on you
Trouble, that’s what I want
And I’m gonna do
Just what I have to
Get your ass down to the front
Go on and roll it out, I dare you
Sorry I’m kinda drunk
But did you just say your game was brand new
No, I ain’t broken, but I need a fix
That satisfaction when I, I get my kicks
I’m up all night, I’m outta sight
Don’t turn on the light
'Cause I’m feeling so shady lately
Come on and take me underground
Deep under the street
Come on and take me, take me down
Where freaks like us can meet
Turn it up, turn it up, turn it up
Turn it way up, don’t stop the beat
Come on and turn me, turn me out
'Cause I’m feeling so shady lately
Gonna go and get me a shot
Gonna knock it back, forget all my blues
Yeah, that…
I agree, "Shady" is not really a "gay song" and the lyrics aren't "gay" -- although some of Adam's live performances of it were quite gay. For me, "Shady" just does not seem like a song that would have broken big. And it really is not a standout on Spotify. The two track that I thought should have had a real shot is TOH [and yes, I know it did not do much in Australia]. It is an upbeat energetic song, great to sing along to and better to dance to. But it is very hard to figure out which songs are going to connect and become hits. It is not just about radio airplay and promo -- you can't get more radio airplay and promo that Lady Gaga had and "Million Reasons" peaked at #52 on the Billboard Hot 100 and fell off -- it returned after the SuperBowl performance and hit #4 but that is the result of the most massive promo an artist/song has ever gotten in the US.
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Post by cassie on Mar 16, 2017 22:57:01 GMT -5
For tomorrow, St Patrick's Day.... With all respect, this version does not include the reprise with that wonderful 23 second phrase that includes that glorious high B. Here is the complete version. youtu.be/DJYyqzUr6jUAnd I love these comments underneath: dan: I first heard this when Adam was still a contestant on American Idol - I'm a (former) Broadway tenor - well, I'm still a tenor, but no longer professionally - and pretty hard to please. PLUS, I'm in my sixties and quite an old fogie! But Adam can do anything as far as I'm concerned! This is perhaps the most beautiful rendition of "Come to Me, Bend to Me" that I've ever heard; his breath control, his intonation, his range - glorious! And even as the old fart that I am, when Adam brought his first tour to the Ryman in Nashville, I actually found myself standing ON the chair seat, screaming and dancing!! Wow - what a performer, in every genre!! Bill Stewart Bill Stewart1 month ago Dan - not perhaps. This is absolutely the best. I am a spinto tenor, from an opera background, and this is absolutely the most glorious lyric tenor voice I think I've ever heard. Perhaps even leggiero tenor. Dan Mcgeachy Dan Mcgeachy1 month ago Bill, I agree!
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