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Post by nonotme on Apr 1, 2017 23:22:10 GMT -5
But why go there for a winery photo shoot when there are 100s in Santa Barbara area? Do either of you know where he was in the hiking video? Many places have the kind of trees he was walking through. I was a kid when I lived in the Sonoma Valley, so it's been too long for me to tell exactly where he was. M2M do you recognize those trash cans? LOL peace&love
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Post by Craazyforadam on Apr 1, 2017 23:29:44 GMT -5
While Adam is wining and dining or whatever he is up to besides playing with us, I need to bring up a few points about that Voice versus Idol discussion, that I did not see mentioned.
As long as Simon had his fingers in there and was able to influence the contestant selection, the top 10 or 12 or 20 or however many there were in the Finals, were significantly better selected.
Simon knew he/she
- needed the ability to sing reasonably modern stuff in whatever genre the artist was headed ( and no, standards is not modern, and Simon didn't like either Clay Aiken or as Taylor Hicks) - needed to be be placable on radio - needed to be popular/ have a potential market and fan base - needed to have a story that could be presented on the show (casting aspect) - needed to have visual potential (that means either good looks or special on-screen personality) - needed to have the vocal abilities and the musical talent
Simon had the skill to very quickly form his judgement on a whole range of selection criteria beyond the music, and had the influence to stack his finalist group accordingly. He also had enough clout to get the producers sold on some useful story-line.
Simon was not always right. There were misses, and Adam could have been one of them, if Simon had been the only one to decide. He thought he had Rhydian Roberts v2.0 in front of him, and therefore just dissed Adam as theatrical and non-current. Luckily he wasn't the only one making decisions, and Adam only needed Hollywood week to make it very clear to Simon that he was his own artist, and the rest is history).
But Simon's nose for finding the right talent is a skill that has nothing to do with singing ability, Simon could smell money like a shark smells blood. Artistically, this does not always get you the best artist, but it gets you to most marketable one. And Simon was flexible enough to 'get' the market potential of a Susan Boyle (who would have been nothing without the background sob-story and the staged 'surprise' presentation) or a One Direction pop group on the other end, where Simon just threw a bunch of individual singers together to form a new boy band.
If there was a boilerplate in existence for a certain type of success, Simon knew how to use it, the moment the right candidate walked in.
None of the idol judges/producers after that had this skill. Neither did the folks at the Voice.
Imo, The Voice has two additional problems why they were not able to duplicate this success on their show and I did not see them mentioned, so I'll bring them up.
While they were able to occasionally cast great personalities and did take a few risks along the way, they never had a format that allowed to develop that character storyline, reducing the casting aspect to those few viewers that tend to read blogs and forums and stuff, but they left the rest of their audience disengaged.
Whatever build-up of a casting story-line they may have in the front half of the show, gets killed off in the second half, when they have the sing-off rounds. With the song-choice in the hands of the coaches instead of the artist, the artists do not get to make their own artistic statement. And the boxing ring -sing off format destroys any possibility of individuality, as the whole thing needs to be some kind of duet. The Voice regularly had falling ratings during these rounds, but nobody changed the format.
So, by the end of the show, the memory of the audience is shaped by these compromise performances, taking any artistic future right out of the hands of that performer. With a public disengaged, the artist does not have a substantial enough following for a quality record deal.
Obviously, all the other points that were already mentioned by Q3 and others, like ratings etc are important too, they just were mentioned already, so no need to repeat. Idol was the ideal show for Adam to show his talent.
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Post by wal on Apr 2, 2017 0:23:22 GMT -5
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Post by Q3 on Apr 2, 2017 0:30:46 GMT -5
Maybe it's a private performance at a winery? Not sure why there might be clues to his whereabouts for that though? Why would he be up here in Sonoma area for the birth of his nephew, do they live up this way? No, they live in SF and Baby Lambert is 3 weeks away. I think we will find out after whatever he is doing is over. Clearly he is sharing bits of what he is up to. Could be he is there for a writing/studio session. There are a few really nice recording studios in Sonoma County and the atmosphere can't be replicated.
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Post by Jablea on Apr 2, 2017 0:46:31 GMT -5
My bet is flew into Sonoma Airport, went north, went for a hike, did his "event", went back south to the airport - doesn't seem like much north that he would have arrived at so his business had to be north of the airport. He either needs lots of clothes for a multi-night stay or clothes for a photoshoot. I'm betting multi-night stay since picked up more than just one meal for Pharoah yesterday.
So again, what types of things do we see Leah at? Photo-shoots? Interviews? Adam centric? QAL centric?
Oh, and required an overnight stay already. Hmmmm. Maybe fly up yesterday, hike in the morning to keep up energy, ride south to his interview? So maybe his hotel was north of the airport and his event south of it?
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Post by nonotme on Apr 2, 2017 1:41:30 GMT -5
Sonoma Valley Airport is primarily a vintage plane, site-seeing type airport. Not sure anyone other than locals with their own planes fly into it. Same with Sonoma Skypark. A few scheduled airline flights a day go to Santa Rosa from LA and a few other places. Santa Rosa is only a half hour from Sonoma. Most people flying to Sonoma go to SFO, Oakland, or even Sacramento, then drive.
Who knows about Adam, though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 8:34:12 GMT -5
Craazyforadam, you are OFC, entitled to your opinion about Simon and I am not a Simon hater, never was. I am an IDOL lo0ver though. But most of these things:
Were done by the producers. After all, it was a TV show they were really casting. And there were a few pretty bad seasons of contestants the years Simon WAS there. Off the top of my head, Seasons 6 and 9 come to mind. 9, perhaps being the worst for contestants.
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Post by lurleene on Apr 2, 2017 12:45:42 GMT -5
Craazyforadam, you are OFC, entitled to your opinion about Simon and I am not a Simon hater, never was. I am an IDOL lo0ver though. But most of these things: Were done by the producers. After all, it was a TV show they were really casting. And there were a few pretty bad seasons of contestants the years Simon WAS there. Off the top of my head, Seasons 6 and 9 come to mind. 9, perhaps being the worst for contestants. Yes. The produces did the casting for the show. I believe one of the reasons Simon left was because he did not run the show. And there was always a lot of uninteresting or average talent with average looks cast even in the Simon years. The standouts were not in the majority. I do believe the standouts ended up with the bigger careers tho.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 12:47:17 GMT -5
I think Simon just got bored. He was awful during season 9, his last.
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