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Post by sarah on Mar 9, 2018 19:30:29 GMT -5
I really think that was one of his worst songs. Not Adam's voice but the song itself. Of course if Bruno released it, it would have been an instant smash hit. NCOE Is THE WORST song Adam has released EVER imo! To me it is worse than any of the quite terrible songs on the 2 bastard albums...the fact billboard is saying “an instant standout” and “Mars’ best co-writes” just shows how far up Bruno’s ass everyone is...(and now I am thinking of that comedy routine...lol...thanks for posting it) I agree. Ugh, that last sentence by the writer, about imagining Mars as the solo artist on the track, made me roll my eyes. How frustrating it is that people seem to frequently remove Adam's voice from the story or success of a song, if he's not credited as a co-writer. None of the other songs on that list are treated as though the singers Mars wrote for were disposable, but it seems like Adam has to fight tooth and nail for that kind of respect. This nonsense makes me appreciate how NCOE and BTIKM are two tracks that seem to be low-rated in the reviews for Trespassing; the reviewers invariably seem to prefer Adam's voice as writer as well as singer, and I wonder what might have happened if they'd released any other track as a lead single. I still mourn for "Runnin." So...now that we have moved on from JCS, I haven't made up my mind yet if I really want to get sucked into Idol again. I have a very conflicted relationship with the show, from being very grateful to being entertained (at times) to being frustrated. sarah , that recap was hilarious (and entirely new to me) and it brings back "good old" memories haha. Just thinking about the adrenaline rush every week still gives me an adrenaline rush, and that "Down The Rabbit Hole" experience during ROF is something my Glambert heart will hold forever. Adam has come a long way I haven't made up my mind about American Idol, either. Lots of great memories, though. haha  I'll never forget the birth of my Glambert heart. I thought he was cute from the start and I liked his voice, and I started to get emotionally involved with the photo drama before the Top 13 performance, but ROF is what turned me into a full-on Glambert. It was funny how that performance got a reaction out of so many people across all gender and sexuality experiences, and people who the media would never have been assumed to be Adam fans (like Christians, lesbians, straight dudes, etc.) just loved it. Like this guy, from barstoolsports.com (the page is now missing), whose rather homophobic "humor" about Adam's stage performance made me shake my head (I'm leaving out a bit) but who appreciated Adam's vocals and interpretation in a way that eluded most of the judging panel. They didn't even mention his vocals that night, I think, which is crazy. He was incredible. Seeing that made me search barstoolsports for any more recent Adam mentions, and I found this, from last January. (I apologize if it's old to everyone here. Y'all have probably already seen it last January. It made me smile and I liked the WWFM shoutout, given how a few reviewers had panned it recently, so I wanted to add it.)
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Post by bamafan on Mar 9, 2018 20:39:29 GMT -5
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Post by girldrummer on Mar 9, 2018 21:38:04 GMT -5
I really think that was one of his worst songs. Not Adam's voice but the song itself. Of course if Bruno released it, it would have been an instant smash hit. The whole article above just made my stomach turn. NCOE is one of the few TP songs that I skip regularly. Lots of other gems on that album though. While NCOE was never won of my favorites, I didn't hate it either. I've never skipped it when I listen to the album. I think we've all been puzzled at the choice of singles that have been made for Adam. Somehow the song that many of us feel is one of the weakest gets chosen. Go figure. Adam's albums have been full of hit-worthy songs. So many of them never got past the awareness of his core fans. We all want him to finally have that huge, blast-off hit that tops the charts and reaches a wide audience. A4 just may be the charm.
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Post by Jablea on Mar 9, 2018 21:44:47 GMT -5
The whole article above just made my stomach turn. NCOE is one of the few TP songs that I skip regularly. Lots of other gems on that album though. While NCOE was never won of my favorites, I didn't hate it either. I've never skipped it when I listen to the album. I think we've all been puzzled at the choice of singles that have been made for Adam. Somehow the song that many of us feel is one of the weakest gets chosen. Go figure. Adam's albums have been full of hit-worthy songs. So many of them never got past the awareness of his core fans. We all want him to finally have that huge, blast-off hit that tops the charts and reaches a wide audience. A4 just may be the charm. NCOE sounded terrible on my car radio. The one time I heard it in my car I had to turn DOWN the sound and I was stopped so I could listen to it. Now with headphones and my computer there was lots of complexity to it and it was fun to listen to.
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Post by girldrummer on Mar 9, 2018 21:48:26 GMT -5
NCOE Is THE WORST song Adam has released EVER imo! To me it is worse than any of the quite terrible songs on the 2 bastard albums...the fact billboard is saying “an instant standout” and “Mars’ best co-writes” just shows how far up Bruno’s ass everyone is...(and now I am thinking of that comedy routine...lol...thanks for posting it) I agree. Ugh, that last sentence by the writer, about imagining Mars as the solo artist on the track, made me roll my eyes. How frustrating it is that people seem to frequently remove Adam's voice from the story or success of a song, if he's not credited as a co-writer. None of the other songs on that list are treated as though the singers Mars wrote for were disposable, but it seems like Adam has to fight tooth and nail for that kind of respect. This nonsense makes me appreciate how NCOE and BTIKM are two tracks that seem to be low-rated in the reviews for Trespassing; the reviewers invariably seem to prefer Adam's voice as writer as well as singer, and I wonder what might have happened if they'd released any other track as a lead single. I still mourn for "Runnin." So...now that we have moved on from JCS, I haven't made up my mind yet if I really want to get sucked into Idol again. I have a very conflicted relationship with the show, from being very grateful to being entertained (at times) to being frustrated. sarah , that recap was hilarious (and entirely new to me) and it brings back "good old" memories haha. Just thinking about the adrenaline rush every week still gives me an adrenaline rush, and that "Down The Rabbit Hole" experience during ROF is something my Glambert heart will hold forever. Adam has come a long way I haven't made up my mind about American Idol, either. Lots of great memories, though. haha  I'll never forget the birth of my Glambert heart. I thought he was cute from the start and I liked his voice, and I started to get emotionally involved with the photo drama before the Top 13 performance, but ROF is what turned me into a full-on Glambert. It was funny how that performance got a reaction out of so many people across all gender and sexuality experiences, and people who the media would never have been assumed to be Adam fans (like Christians, lesbians, straight dudes, etc.) just loved it. Like this guy, from barstoolsports.com (the page is now missing), whose rather homophobic "humor" about Adam's stage performance made me shake my head (I'm leaving out a bit) but who appreciated Adam's vocals and interpretation in a way that eluded most of the judging panel. They didn't even mention his vocals that night, I think, which is crazy. He was incredible. Seeing that made me search barstoolsports for any more recent Adam mentions, and I found this, from last January. (I apologize if it's old to everyone here. Y'all have probably already seen it last January. It made me smile and I liked the WWFM shoutout, given how a few reviewers had panned it recently, so I wanted to add it.) I've never been afraid to admit that I simply cannot watch Idol. No one since Adam has every interested me. And I simply don't have the energy or the desire to invest in any other contestant. It's an emotional drain that I don't want to repeat. Sure, I've seen a number of post-Adam contestants perform. Some of them are very good and have become reasonably successful. I think that's great. But not one of them even came close to his impact on the show. He says he didn't "break" Idol, but he did. The enthusiasm for the show declined after S8, IMO. Interest started to wane. The Voice has never produced a major star, and I still think singing shows will never regain their former thrill. I don't quite understand the logic is bringing AI back after it already died due to lack of interest. Apparently the PTB think otherwise. I just can't watch. Just makes me queasy.
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Post by girldrummer on Mar 9, 2018 21:51:40 GMT -5
And I can't wait to see what Adam's role is in the Playmobile movie. Hope it's an actual character. "Voice-over" is kind of a vague term. I hope he does something that actually shows off his personality. Any gig like this can open doors.
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Post by bamafan on Mar 9, 2018 22:11:42 GMT -5
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Post by sarah on Mar 9, 2018 22:53:09 GMT -5
I haven't made up my mind about American Idol, either. Lots of great memories, though. haha  I'll never forget the birth of my Glambert heart. I thought he was cute from the start and I liked his voice, and I started to get emotionally involved with the photo drama before the Top 13 performance, but ROF is what turned me into a full-on Glambert. It was funny how that performance got a reaction out of so many people across all gender and sexuality experiences, and people who the media would never have been assumed to be Adam fans (like Christians, lesbians, straight dudes, etc.) just loved it. Like this guy, from barstoolsports.com (the page is now missing), whose rather homophobic "humor" about Adam's stage performance made me shake my head (I'm leaving out a bit) but who appreciated Adam's vocals and interpretation in a way that eluded most of the judging panel. They didn't even mention his vocals that night, I think, which is crazy. He was incredible. I've never been afraid to admit that I simply cannot watch Idol. No one since Adam has every interested me. And I simply don't have the energy or the desire to invest in any other contestant. It's an emotional drain that I don't want to repeat. Sure, I've seen a number of post-Adam contestants perform. Some of them are very good and have become reasonably successful. I think that's great. But not one of them even came close to his impact on the show. He says he didn't "break" Idol, but he did. The enthusiasm for the show declined after S8, IMO. Interest started to wane. The Voice has never produced a major star, and I still think singing shows will never regain their former thrill. I don't quite understand the logic is bringing AI back after it already died due to lack of interest. Apparently the PTB think otherwise. I just can't watch. Just makes me queasy. Yeah, I feel the same way. Before Adam, I was mostly a casual viewer who only voted for a few contestants but very sporadically and unreliably. Adam changed that for himself, but after him, I lost all interest in the show. It felt irrelevant, like the general public who voted would always choose to reinforce the muted palette of what was already comfortable musically rather than taking a chance on someone who was a classic throwback, a contemporary voice, and a shot into the future all in one. Add to that the noise about him being gay and how much of a fuss the media made of it while pretending to say they were above it and how unfair that all felt... Yeah. It was a pretty rough season, emotionally, despite the joy and excitement of Adam himself. There was some interview, I can't remember which now (maybe his interview with RuPaul last year?), where Adam mentioned that those kinds of shows are seen as pure TV/streaming entertainment now, by both viewers and producers alike. That feels accurate, unfortunately. Including the heavy-handed focus on mawkish backstories and drama, rather than the music itself. The music industry side of the story is slowly dying, if it's not completely dead by now. That's one thing I appreciated about the early seasons of Idol, once they were in the live shows--that the focus was on the contestants and the music (even though themes/genres is an awkward format for emerging artists). I don't know what happened after S8, except the few instances I watched of Adam mentoring, where it felt like a huge portion of the show was about the judges and another huge portion was drama. I still wonder what Simon thinks of Adam over the past few years; I wish some interviewer would ask him. He doesn't have Carrie, Kelly, Clay, or Daughtry-type numbers, commercially, but Simon always said during S8 that Adam was both a love/hate type of performer as well as a genuine star. So I felt that he thought Adam deserved to be a huge success but might have difficulty, both with his musical style and because of bigotry. He's definitely become an international star, if a modest one, and he's definitely a "love" type of performer for people who actually know about him. QAL is helping to familiarize more people with him, I think, and hopefully A4 can reap some of that harvest.
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Post by sarah on Mar 9, 2018 23:07:20 GMT -5
Did we see this already? (Sorry if it's a repeat!) https://www.instagram.com/p/BgIC5EPBwom Dang, that is a really good look for him. Is it from ~2013 or so? He looked super cuddly and cute in that live chat, but I kinda wish he'd go back to a slightly more 5 o'clock shadow look, rather than having a lot of scruff.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 23:47:26 GMT -5
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