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Post by bamafan on Apr 8, 2018 16:10:36 GMT -5
With Spotify you aren't dependent on your internet connection though. You can stream offline too. When you go back online your streams are added to Adam's tally. Buying the CD gives Adam more money yes, but that is only once. After you bought it you won't give him any extra while listening to it. When you use streaming services he get's money for every stream you do. Yes that isn't much, but it adds up. Listening to your CD will give him nothing. There will be a time when they don't sell any CD's anymore. My car doesn't have a CD player so I listen to my MP3's in the car, but a lot of newer cars can connect to streaming services through your phone already. I'm not judging you or anything. Just informing that a new way of consuming music is happening now already. I have colleagues who never bought a CD in their life. The younger people are streaming their asses off and if we want Adam to have a huge success with his music we must do something with streaming. And yes also buy that CD! As long as those are there. Doing both will give him the most benefits. To stream offline you need to pay😉. And as I said: I try to be a good fan. Whenever I open Spotify on my computer, I listen to a few of Adam’s songs. And when Adam released new songs, I did it more often. But I realised, that these are really almost the only occasions, when I stream music. Only for Adam. He‘s the reason I downloaded the app and made that account. As for cars: I never sat in a car without a CD-Player. But maybe that’s Germany? (The „digital dinosaur“ ). At least we were the only (?) country, where the single of „Ghost Town“ was released on CD. 😁 So you can stream, I do it occasionally. And I do need my CDs in my car. I‘m not that sure, that CDs will vanish. Even vinyls never vanished. And digital music needs to find a way to sell. Because the way it is, musicians only make money through touring. Which „kills“ the music IMO in the long sight. Nobody can tour constantly and it destroys creativity and the voice. Adam is very lucky, that he has Queen. I'm with you. I'm dreading the day when Adam doesn't release an actual CD. I only stream on my computer....the free service...when Adam releases a new song. I don't use Spotify to listen to music. Don't listen to much music on my phone other than the CD albums I have bought thru the years from Amazon which gives you free digital DLs. It's a chore to remember to stream on Spotify or his official vids on YT., but I will for a while when there is new music. I understand it's important to run up the streaming numbers and I hope new fans and many old fans are happy to go that route. I'll mostly contribute to his bank account by buying VIP concert tickets whenever I can and buying some new merch from his store.
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Post by LinkinBert on Apr 8, 2018 16:14:57 GMT -5
With Spotify you aren't dependent on your internet connection though. You can stream offline too. When you go back online your streams are added to Adam's tally. Buying the CD gives Adam more money yes, but that is only once. After you bought it you won't give him any extra while listening to it. When you use streaming services he get's money for every stream you do. Yes that isn't much, but it adds up. Listening to your CD will give him nothing. There will be a time when they don't sell any CD's anymore. My car doesn't have a CD player so I listen to my MP3's in the car, but a lot of newer cars can connect to streaming services through your phone already. I'm not judging you or anything. Just informing that a new way of consuming music is happening now already. I have colleagues who never bought a CD in their life. The younger people are streaming their asses off and if we want Adam to have a huge success with his music we must do something with streaming. And yes also buy that CD! As long as those are there. Doing both will give him the most benefits. All this talk of streaming rather than listening to your owned music prompted me to go to spotify to listen to the FYI music....well it played fyi and music again, wywfm and strut then would not move on. When I specifically tried to listen to soaked it told me that was unavailable to me! I guess that would explain why some cuts get more plays than others....and a good reason to just listen to your own music. Very frustrating... Weird I wonder why that happened? Been using Spotify for a few years now and have never had that problem. And I don't have a premium account so it's definitely not a free account issue. Spotify is my go to for discovering new music can't imagine life without it.
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Post by mszue on Apr 8, 2018 16:27:01 GMT -5
All this talk of streaming rather than listening to your owned music prompted me to go to spotify to listen to the FYI music....well it played fyi and music again, wywfm and strut then would not move on. When I specifically tried to listen to soaked it told me that was unavailable to me! I guess that would explain why some cuts get more plays than others....and a good reason to just listen to your own music. Very frustrating... Weird I wonder why that happened? Been using Spotify for a few years now and have never had that problem. And I don't have a premium account so it's definitely not a free account issue. Spotify is my go to for discovering new music can't imagine life without it. I went to google with the question and it looks like it may be a fairly new issue and you have to go into settings on Spotify to insure that your local files are all turned off. Why it played the first songs...which I also have....I have no idea but, fingers crossed, it seems to be working at the moment! so frustrating..... fwiw...I do use spotify reasonably often...more than my own owned music now as there is so much more variety.
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Post by skaschep on Apr 8, 2018 17:53:32 GMT -5
Weird I wonder why that happened? Been using Spotify for a few years now and have never had that problem. And I don't have a premium account so it's definitely not a free account issue. Spotify is my go to for discovering new music can't imagine life without it. I went to google with the question and it looks like it may be a fairly new issue and you have to go into settings on Spotify to insure that your local files are all turned off. Why it played the first songs...which I also have....I have no idea but, fingers crossed, it seems to be working at the moment! so frustrating..... fwiw...I do use spotify reasonably often...more than my own owned music now as there is so much more variety. yeah I had the same problem for a while. I couldn't stream his FYE album at all. I changed some of those offline settings and now I can stream every song again. I mostly use my own playlist to stream. It has all his singles from 2015 and further. I just let it play in the background when my computer is turned on with the volume of Spotify turned down. I don't turn it down in the Spotify app by the way but with the system volume equalizer. If you turn it down in Spotify itself Spotify can see that and might not count the streams. I haven't tested that though. And when I work on my numbers I like to put on his songs from his page where I start with the Spotify Sessions and just let it play through until I'm finished. open.spotify.com/artist/6prmLEyn4LfHlD9NnXWlf7?si=rpGWO15YTxGOkf3aPZj6rg
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Post by mszue on Apr 8, 2018 18:13:52 GMT -5
I went to google with the question and it looks like it may be a fairly new issue and you have to go into settings on Spotify to insure that your local files are all turned off. Why it played the first songs...which I also have....I have no idea but, fingers crossed, it seems to be working at the moment! so frustrating..... fwiw...I do use spotify reasonably often...more than my own owned music now as there is so much more variety. yeah I had the same problem for a while. I couldn't stream his FYE album at all. I changed some of those offline settings and now I can stream every song again. I mostly use my own playlist to stream. It has all his singles from 2015 and further. I just let it play in the background when my computer is turned on with the volume of Spotify turned down. I don't turn it down in the Spotify app by the way but with the system volume equalizer. If you turn it down in Spotify itself Spotify can see that and might not count the streams. I haven't tested that though. And when I work on my numbers I like to put on his songs from his page where I start with the Spotify Sessions and just let it play through until I'm finished. open.spotify.com/artist/6prmLEyn4LfHlD9NnXWlf7?si=rpGWO15YTxGOkf3aPZj6rgIt is really interesting to listen to the Take One cuts....some of the songs are so un-Adam like it is hard to recognize his voice at all. It makes you start to realize that his sound is 'purposeful'....and if his are, so are everyone's. We tend to think of his 'voice' as simply 'his voice'.....listening to these makes you realize how much that is not the case. Also....his lower register has always been there...he just has never really preferred it. Kind of fun....
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Post by bamafan on Apr 8, 2018 18:35:25 GMT -5
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Post by bamafan on Apr 8, 2018 18:36:37 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 19:04:23 GMT -5
Buying the CD is, OFC, the first thing a fan should do. But then the benefit of that sale is done, over, one week, it doesn't count for anything after the initial sale. Streaming builds numbers. The artist gets money (a little, but non streaming is ZERO.) Radio notices. It also gets the music heard by others when you put it on a playlist. Here's another hint about streaming. Don't put the new single on a playlist of all Adam music. Put other artists on it. Then their fans discover Adam when searching for playlists with their favorite artist on it.
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Post by adamrocks on Apr 8, 2018 19:16:55 GMT -5
I barely stream music. Actually I only did it after TOH came out and when I want to check new songs or find older ones. Then I usually buy them or leave it. I love my CDs and will always buy them. Or even vinyls (I bought my first vinyl and a player 😜 last year. This way I‘m independent from an internet-connection (which I actually didn’t have during my last vacation) AND the artist gets more money from it. The payment for artists through streaming is almost nothing and must change dramatically, if the music industry will survive. Unfortunately many listeners are not willing to pay at all. Plus:Nobody else but me (and my friends and family 😉) knows, what I like to listen to. Here are some industry-numbers from Germany by the way (yes, even we „start to stream“ 😉): 2017: www.billboard.com/articles/business/8223646/germany-music-revenues-2017-bvmi-streaming-physical2016: rainnews.com/germany-streaming-was-a-quarter-of-the-2016-music-market/With Spotify you aren't dependent on your internet connection though. You can stream offline too. When you go back online your streams are added to Adam's tally. Buying the CD gives Adam more money yes, but that is only once. After you bought it you won't give him any extra while listening to it. When you use streaming services he get's money for every stream you do. Yes that isn't much, but it adds up. Listening to your CD will give him nothing. There will be a time when they don't sell any CD's anymore. My car doesn't have a CD player so I listen to my MP3's in the car, but a lot of newer cars can connect to streaming services through your phone already. I'm not judging you or anything. Just informing that a new way of consuming music is happening now already. I have colleagues who never bought a CD in their life. The younger people are streaming their asses off and if we want Adam to have a huge success with his music we must do something with streaming. And yes also buy that CD! As long as those are there. Doing both will give him the most benefits. This 'streaming' taking over is a little depressing to me because I feel the vinyl album art work and even CD artwork will become a lost art. I always loved studying the art on the albums covers I bought because they gave me a first impression/insight/mood feeling for the album. It made listening to the album even more interesting for me.
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Post by marionm on Apr 8, 2018 20:53:09 GMT -5
Not sure any format will die out. Vinyls were proclaimed dead and now they're seeing new appreciation...even cassette is apparently back in the coming... streaming is just really inconvenient the way I consume music. I just like my live performances and those simply aren't on spotify. As I've said when two fux came out: I'm only learning about the importance of streaming and I'll surely help out. I also want to share more on social media, when Adam finally releases new music...
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