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Post by ceecee on Aug 16, 2020 4:50:22 GMT -5
You do know all supporters aren't wealthy, don't you? I am a college educated self employed business owner, and I don't own a factory. I appreciate what President has done for small business by removing burdensome regulations that make it difficult for the average person to even start a small business. Small businesses are the backbone of our County and by making it easier to create small businesses it created thousands of jobs for people and took a lot of people off of unemployment and other government programs. Of course, this was before COVID but I happen to believe we can do it again with . Biden has never created a job in his life and doubt he will start after 40+ years in politics. Do I want the money I earn to go to poor people, no, I would like for there to be enough jobs so that people who are poor now can become part of the workforce and contributing members of society. Of course there will always those who can't work and take care of themselves and I believe government programs should assist them with whatever they need. Don't even get me started on socialism it has been tried many times throughout history and has never been successful or sustainable you just can't live on other people's money forever, at some point the money runs out and please don't say it works in Sweden. Personal taxes including income tax in Sweden are close to 70% of your income and in addition to that they have a 25% consumption tax. They are a pro capitalist and pro free market Country, pro school choice. It boils down to whether you want to be responsible for managing your own life or give up your freedoms and have the government manage all things financial. Every place I typed the President's name it was automatically removed when post went public....however, as you can see Biden's name remains in the post. The fact is that every European Country, as well as Canada, Australia, New Zealand and yes, even the USA have programs that are "socialist" and it's unfortunate that many Americans have somehow come to see this as a dirty word or a dangerous concept. When your farmers got bail-outs of billions of dollars thanks to the trade war with China - that is socialism. When businesses were recently given non-repayable loans - millions of which went to businesses owned by T -rump supporters or his appointees - that is socialism. When banks got bailed out, when car factories got bailed out, when a non-profit organization like the military, Post Office, public schools gets money it's ALL socialism. In the USA, a lot of tax dollars go to the haves, but wherever the money goes, it's socialism. The question then becomes, WHERE do you want tax dollars to go? In Canada we want them to go to universal health care, to education, to the arts, and so on - while in the USA you have other priorities. But this narrative that the GOP doesn't have socialism while the Dems do, is really false. Yes, I do know that many poor people also support the GOP because they've also been told repeatedly that voting for anyone else will result in "socialism" AND they are often one issue voters - against a woman's right to choose.
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Post by onetime on Aug 16, 2020 4:59:42 GMT -5
For what HeWhoCannot amed is doing is not creating a job. he is using the healthy economic which previous government developed to run it down as he always does. And on top of it he does not take responsibility when thing goes wrong. Unfortunately people will pay for it. He is only creating a dictatur where you will not have a right to say something agains the government or you will be wanished. Tramp pettines is already serving this. He sent a military action to democratic voters state to make a trouble for them. He selects pandemic aid for his sympathizer first and then rest of country comes second aka a second class citizens. Where is the fairness for all american sitizens? Will execute or punish them if they continiue to disagree with him? Will Adam and his family need to go to exile after HeWhoCannot amed´s win? Tramp is surranding himself with corupt people and he is electing a corupt judges to serve his purposes. If you cannot have a fair system in the country without blatant coruption and the system serve only for the top it´s call a dictatur. It´s like watching a Hitler to rise igen. German people thought that only he can make the economy better for them. If it was true Germany will be nothing today, but they are perfectly fine without Hitler. I only hope that American see that they will be perfectly fine without Tramp a his corupt group.
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Post by ceecee on Aug 16, 2020 5:28:44 GMT -5
I don't mind paying a reasonable amount in taxes for those things that are for the greater good of our Country on the Federal, State and Local levels. However, I don't want to pay 70% of what I earn in taxes letting the government decide how two thirds of my income should be spent because frankly neither party does a good of spending tax payers money.Everything the government does at every level cost twice as much as much as it would cost the private sector to do the same thing with better results. I want a choice of where my kids go to school, which charities I want to support and what kind of health insurance I want to buy all while doing my part to help create jobs for others so they can become tax payers and contributors to society and ultimately be able to make there own decisions rather being dependent on the government. I have two family members who are married to Canadians and live in Canada, both of them have had to come back to the US for health care and pay out of pocket because the wait time to see a Doctor in Canada was longer than they felt their family member should wait for treatment. I want no part of that kind of health care system. The biggest thing I want is for government to do a better job educating our kids and do it at a lower cost. Charter schools in my area provide a far better education for about half the price of what public schools get per student. A better education is the best thing we can give all kids to create a foundation for a better life. Currently about half of what I pay in state and local taxes goes toward public education and it is still a mess no matter how much the tax payers give the schools.
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Post by Melisende on Aug 16, 2020 6:05:29 GMT -5
I don't mind paying a reasonable amount in taxes for those things that are for the greater good of our Country on the Federal, State and Local levels. However, I don't want to pay 70% of what I earn in taxes letting the government decide how two thirds of my income should be spent because frankly neither party does a good of spending tax payers money.Everything the government does at every level cost twice as much as much as it would cost the private sector to do the same thing with better results. I want a choice of where my kids go to school, which charities I want to support and what kind of health insurance I want to buy all while doing my part to help create jobs for others so they can become tax payers and contributors to society and ultimately be able to make there own decisions rather being dependent on the government. I have two family members who are married to Canadians and live in Canada, both of them have had to come back to the US for health care and pay out of pocket because the wait time to see a Doctor in Canada was longer than they felt their family member should wait for treatment. I want no part of that kind of health care system. The biggest thing I want is for government to do a better job educating our kids and do it at a lower cost. Charter schools in my area provide a far better education for about half the price of what public schools get per student. A better education is the best thing we can give all kids to create a foundation for a better life. Currently about half of what I pay in state and local taxes goes toward public education and it is still a mess no matter how much the tax payers give the schools. I just have to correct this misconception about wait times to see a doctor in Canada. Maybe for certain specialists but I see my GP within days of calling for an appointment. I waited one week this month to get an scan on the veins in my legs, same to get an appointment for orthotics. The best part is, that in my province the cost for medical insurance for the highest income bracket is $450 a year. And that's because we DON'T have expensive private insurance companies making a profit off our health. Plus the government does a great job of negotiating for lower drug prices on behalf of all of us. That's why Americans come up here to buy drugs. On top of that, I have the option to purchase an extended health plan from a private insurer (through my job) which covers all my prescription drugs, dental, massage, chiropractor, orthotics and much more. That costs me an additional $100 a month p however since one dental bill last week was $2000 - it's well worth it to be covered. For some things, the government does a much better job than a private business because they don't have to answer to shareholders or make a big profit. Also, I don't know many countries paying 70% in taxes. We don't and neither do people in Germany were I lived and worked for 10 years.
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Post by marionm on Aug 16, 2020 6:32:28 GMT -5
onetime sizzling63 🙏🙏🙏 If Wall street really wanted a "small government" why did they get bailed out??!!! At MASSIVE ex*&@^# of the tax payers!!! If it really were small government for them, they would have gone bankrupt. PERIOD! ceecee so it's ok, that half the national Budget is used for the Military? Tricle down economics don't work, it's a blatant lie and illusion that is being fed again and again. There are people who are very well part of the workforce, but they earn so little with 50 hours a week that they need to rely on food stamps which again is paied by your precious tax dollars.
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Post by brdgt on Aug 16, 2020 8:47:12 GMT -5
To me, any legit “good” done by this admin is delegitimized by the gross human right abuses and blatant violations of the Constitution. To me, that far and away “tramps” any monies anyone may have pocketed. To me, that is like saying Mussolini “made the trains run on time.” I don’t see any principles being put forward by this admin other than self-interest and greed. The revolting racism is in service to that. To me, democracy as we have known it all our lives is being shredded every day. But, to me, finally, the disgusting non-response to covid is the literal “nail in the coffin.” For political reasons, Kushner (who should have never ever been given security clearance because of his endless dirty deals) decided to let the virus rage because he believed (and pop allowed) that it would only effect what admin loves to call “democrat cities” - American lives don’t matter, only retaining power. And, in effect, the spread of the disease at this point helps with their effort to suppress votes, so there continues to be no national plan. The US is absolutely at its breaking point - and it may never be anything other than a Putin-esque dictatorship in ours or our children’s lifetimes. So, yeah, I wholeheartedly agree with Adam’s gesture to any and all who would support this man.
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Post by brdgt on Aug 16, 2020 9:05:51 GMT -5
Also, Ric Grennel’s post, that ridiculously tired, stupid “observation” (“ooh, YOU’RE not being tolerant”) is obviously garbage - LOTS of horrible things and people should not be tolerated.
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Post by mszue on Aug 16, 2020 9:12:09 GMT -5
Here here!
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Post by brdgt on Aug 16, 2020 9:12:53 GMT -5
I used to care more that Adam didn’t get radio play because I drove a lot and listened to the radio. Since pandemic I’m barely driving, so I don’t notice find it bothers me less - but, yes, the fact that it means he doesn’t get award show spots as much as he would otherwise is a bummer. I love “Watermelon Sugar High” and I love “Super Power,” but my fave from Velvet - “New Eyes.” There is just something about that song that mesmerizes me.
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Post by willowgarden on Aug 16, 2020 11:37:45 GMT -5
I finally asked my sis who is a big believer why she puts up with him. She said her family does not care about his personal traits. He allows the stock market to make them money and the Senate is picking conservative judges for lifetime jobs. Supreme Court judges too. I suspected as much. Many - actually most - of the wealthy people I was meeting when lecturing on very high end cruise ships (like Regent and Seabourn) were supporters - and these were not stupid people. They love the tax cuts, I guess, and not having to follow any environmental restrictions with their factories. They didn't want their money going to "poor people" or "socialist programs". I also got the feeling that a lot of them loved the very restrictive immigration polices of Steven Miller. His goal since he's been a teenager is to keep America white and keep brown people & Muslims out. Yes. She didn't say the words but I knew exactly what she meant. My family is Chinese and I cautioned her and her kids who are half Chinese to stay low when people start talking about the "China virus".
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