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Post by toramenor on Jul 9, 2014 18:14:41 GMT -5
The New York Times Queen and Adam Lambert Ever determined to rock you, the surviving members of the British rockers Queen rejoin their occasional collaborator – the glam-pop singer and ‘American Idol’ alumnus Adam Lambert – for a stadium tour of their enduring anthems. [ blah-blah-blah: edit by Aleks] but with a capable operatic voice at the helm, their show goes on. www.nytimes.com/events/pop/queen-and-adam-lambert-20141.html^^haha... but why did you edit the phrase "adept vocals"^? - "adept" means "very skillful, highly proficient" - that's praise too
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Post by toramenor on Jul 9, 2014 14:38:34 GMT -5
Sorry, that ^^ was rude! But your post stunned me! There is No universe where MP was star of that band! Very good guitarists are a dime a dozen in LA. Vocalists and performers of Adam's caliber are not! A great back up band only elevates a great vocalist! Even one who's a solo act! Don't worry, I'm not offended Maybe I used a wrong expression. Let me clarify what I meant to say: I didn't think MP was the star of the band. Adam did a great job as the singer, but he looked like just one of the members of the band. MP looked more like he was leading the band. [Of course, that's my opinion from having seen a couple of videos of their performances. That's just the impression I got, not necessarily the actual truth.] And, I agree that a great back up band elevates the singer. I just didn't realize Adam's band was so terrible, as people here have suggested. I'm kinda surprised to hear that, cause I thought they were doing a fine (if not an outstanding) job.
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Post by toramenor on Jul 9, 2014 12:33:24 GMT -5
Hmmm, I disagree, crazyoldgal. Adam Lambert is a solo act. He WAS in a group that consisted of great musicians (Citizen Vein), but there (if you watch one or two performances they did in some bars/clubs) he didn't really SHINE - he looked like just one piece of the machine, he was just another member of the group and (in my opinion) Monte Pittman, the guitarist, looked more like the star of that band, than Adam did. That is what usually happens with bands--the singer is just one part. But, when a singer is somebody with REAL talent, they often leave the band to do the solo thing. Adam made the right choice when he called it quits with Citizen Vein and decided to try and make it on his own. Cause then ALL eyes were on HIM, and he could just explode like the star (the super nova) that he truly is. IMO, Adam the front man from The Citizen Vein era and Adam the front man now..... in 2014........ two completely different animals. Steve Sidelnyk, Tommy Victor and Monte Pittman would not stand out in front of this AFL. The two eras aren't comparable at all. He was a kid then...... just getting his feet wet as a rock frontman. Yeah, but I was actually trying to say that he would not have become the Adam Lambert of 2014 if he had stayed in Citizen Vein or become the lead singer of some rock band who write their own songs and work together. He knew he had to do his own thing, and I think we can all agree that he made the right choice there. *** Adam is not the best songwriter in the world, but for a beginner, he's actually quite good--he's still kinda new at songwriting and needs to develop that. And of course, since he doesn't write music, he always needs to work with a collaborator, so some of the influence of sound and instrumentation comes from the people he works with. I would love for Brian May and Roger Taylor to write songs for Adam, but who knows what they want. I guess we'll just have to be patient and wait for A3 before we make any sort of conclusions. *** And, no--of course I don't think Adam is worried about anyone overshadowing him: no matter how great a musician, nobody could do that now, as evidenced by the Q+AL shows. I just meant to say: Adam doesn't need anything or anyone other than himself on stage, with just that voice and personality, to draw in crowds. I bet no one ever said: I wanna go hear Adam's band play at the concert--audiences go to his concerts to hear Adam Lambert sing. Maybe he does need a better band to back him up, I'm not an expert on bands and I haven't seen all the concerts so I don't know how bad or good his band is, but from what I have seen, I never noticed any major fuckups, and - personally - I couldn't care less who is behind him, cause my focus is always on Adam's performance.
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Post by toramenor on Jul 9, 2014 11:00:58 GMT -5
Hmmm, I disagree, crazyoldgal. Adam Lambert is a solo act. He WAS in a group that consisted of great musicians (Citizen Vein), but there (if you watch one or two performances they did in some bars/clubs) he didn't really SHINE - he looked like just one piece of the machine, he was just another member of the group and (in my opinion) Monte Pittman, the guitarist, looked more like the star of that band, than Adam did. That is what usually happens with bands--the singer is just one part. But, when a singer is somebody with REAL talent, they often leave the band to do the solo thing. Adam made the right choice when he called it quits with Citizen Vein and decided to try and make it on his own. Cause then ALL eyes were on HIM, and he could just explode like the star (the super nova) that he truly is. Adam is a solo act BUT He's learning a lot from QUeen and their style and I think going forward , may not his next single, but additional tracks on his next CD will incorporate this style of music whereas the guitar/keyboard or drum takes a few bars and plays out the melody. Example WWTLF and Love KIlls FOR that matter, all tracks of QUeen. I hope anyway because QUeen music is fantastic. I don't disagree that the songwriting can be improved. Of course it can! And it should - Adam should definitely pair up with songwriters and producers who will help him write great and timeless songs. His voice deserves that. I just don't think he needs a better backing band for when he performs his solo material on stage.
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Post by toramenor on Jul 9, 2014 10:40:06 GMT -5
The 'band' doesn't record for Adam's albums (I think Tommy was credited with playing guitar on one song on Trespassing) and I don't really expect that to change for A3. I'll say this again after watching/seeing Brian, Roger, Rufus, SPike and Neil ADAM NEEDS to update . THis current band has pushed him so ahead of the game, it's unbelievable. I don't want him to go back he needs better musicians to support him. He is riding the wave to go stratesperic Hmmm, I disagree, crazyoldgal. Adam Lambert is a solo act. He WAS in a group that consisted of great musicians (Citizen Vein), but there (if you watch one or two performances they did in some bars/clubs) he didn't really SHINE - he looked like just one piece of the machine, he was just another member of the group and (in my opinion) Monte Pittman, the guitarist, looked more like the star of that band, than Adam did. That is what usually happens with bands--the singer is just one part. But, when a singer is somebody with REAL talent, they often leave the band to do the solo thing. Adam made the right choice when he called it quits with Citizen Vein and decided to try and make it on his own. Cause then ALL eyes were on HIM, and he could just explode like the star (the super nova) that he truly is.
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Post by toramenor on Jul 9, 2014 9:01:44 GMT -5
A wonderful review, Q3 - you nailed it on the head with your observations on what this show is really about, unlike some so-called music critics who obsess over unimportant details instead of looking at the big picture. This show is such a big celebration of everything that is Queen
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Post by toramenor on Jul 9, 2014 5:34:40 GMT -5
Adam has been a trail blazer for a long time without being acknowledged & then out of the blue Sam Smith arrives & he is hailed the new LGB hero! WTF! It seems some heros are never excepted in their own homeland. It's always toughest to be the first at anything. Adam had the balls to be the trailblazer, and HUGE props for that. But, it should not stop with Adam, he should not be the only gay singer in the mainstream. Adam will be the first one to agree that it's great Sam Smith came out and is getting his big break. There should be more gay artists in the mainstream! And yes, Adam's success is (in my opinion) responsible in part for the acceptance of Sam Smith - I'm sure Sam saw how Adam handled it all and took notes. Adam's legacy is so much more than music--gay artists that are coming up and that will appear in the future surely owe a lot to him.
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Post by toramenor on Jul 9, 2014 4:11:20 GMT -5
He, he, I love your strategy. That was smart. And LOL for #ResistanceIsFutile #AnotherOneBitesTheDust
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Post by toramenor on Jul 8, 2014 7:14:45 GMT -5
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Post by toramenor on Jul 8, 2014 6:45:04 GMT -5
It really is fascinating, I honestly had no idea. As a sidenote, I found it interesting that Spike mentioned at the end: "hoping to use this next year on a big tour, fingers crossed".... this interview was in 2012, so did he think that the current Q+AL tour would actually take place in 2013 and was it then delayed? Maybe this is a brief glimpse into what was going on behind the scenes and into the talks between Queen and Adam - if so, it suggests the initial idea for the "big tour" was already discussed during the 2012 gigs... I remember Dougie tweeting last year about Queen touring I think Brian's knee issue put a halt to any plans. The knee issue? I do remember now reading on Brian May's blog that he had something of a 'cancer scare' - they thought he might have it, but thankfully the tests were negative for cancer - is that the same thing as this 'knee issue' you mentioned?
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