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Post by tinafea on Mar 25, 2011 10:50:10 GMT -5
someone upthread asked if everyone had received their mycharity:water photos... I haven't. I think many are still waiting. I know someone who was in the first wave of emails who hasn't received it yet so I think it's going to be awhile. I don't mind that at all. With the DVD release done, it gives me something to look forward to.
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Post by durberville on Mar 25, 2011 10:57:32 GMT -5
ABC's treatment of Adam v. Brown seems strange and inconsistent indeed. However, the blogs and articles highlighting this point have conveniently forgotten/ignored that there was more to Adam's performance that people objected to than the male-male kiss (simulated oral sex, trolley stop). While there were other performances on the AMA that were equally sexual, I don't think it is appropriate for people to argue that Adam's ban from ABC was just because of the kiss. That's just plain inaccurate. Are they "conveniently" forgetting this to give more credence to their argument? I don't think any of us have forgotten or are ignoring the simulated sex in Adam's performance. I think we all know that it wasn't just about the kissing part. The "kiss" is more of a shorthand reference for it all and I don't feel like I'm being dishonest when I use it that way. hah! I didn't bat an eye at the kiss/tummy-head mush - cuz that's all it was/trolley thing....it was the finger at the end and freaked me out. Yes...yes it did. (I know it wasn't shown live....thank god) oh dear we're rehashing the show that can't be named....I better go do some cleaning! lol!
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Post by wal on Mar 25, 2011 11:01:03 GMT -5
terra_zephead Terra テラ Oh hello, Adam GN Live banner on GaGa's VEVO page twitpic.com/4d5ea27 minutes ago
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Post by midwifespal on Mar 25, 2011 11:01:33 GMT -5
ABC's treatment of Adam v. Brown seems strange and inconsistent indeed. However, the blogs and articles highlighting this point have conveniently forgotten/ignored that there was more to Adam's performance that people objected to than the male-male kiss (simulated oral sex, trolley stop). While there were other performances on the AMA that were equally sexual, I don't think it is appropriate for people to argue that Adam's ban from ABC was just because of the kiss. That's just plain inaccurate. Are they "conveniently" forgetting this to give more credence to their argument? I'm pretty sure the "trolley stop" move was preapproved by ABC. Why else would that woman's costume have a convenient ring pull on the crotch? I also recall that right after the performance, there was far more talk about the kiss--by both pro- and anti-Adam forces--than about the simulated oral sex move. The kiss has always gotten more attention. So when people talk about it more now, it's because people talked about it more then. Personally, I always thought it was ridiculous to say "simulated oral sex move" anyway. Nobody would have oral sex if that was all there was to it. Sure, that's what it was intended to suggest, but it was fleeting and fully-clothed, so it wasn't all that salacious. I'm with Adam, who said several times afterward he was stunned that people made such a big deal out of it. The bottom line is still that Adam's behavior in that performance was far less offensive than Chris Brown's behavior, and Adam was punished while Brown is rewarded. There can't be any justification for that. As far as I'm concerned, GMA owes Adam an appearance and an apology. But I ain't holding my breath. I think you're absolutely right, holst, to point out the inaccuracy. And of course when you do so you're not criticizing Adam's actions in the least--only the reporting. But Murly, ITA with you're analysis, especially the bit I bolded, which has always driven me batty ( simulated oral sex--you're doing it wrong) LOL. I don't really know which specific moves ABC had pre-approved and which they hadn't, but while Adam was always sure to take that on his shoulders (what a guy!) it always struck me as a strange kind of nit-picking. What ABC clearly approved was a racy, s&m-themed, crazy-costumed, sexually-assertive performance by a powerful gay man. And I've always believed that that was precisely what offended a small number of sheltered, conservative viewers, and kinda freaked out a rather larger number of viewers, who then pinned it on specific moves like--gasp!--The Kiss!--and--gasp!--The Simulated Oral Sex!!!--which during the actual performance went by in a split second on a wide view and were barely noticeable in all the costuming crazy. However, I think it is significant and in some ways accurate that The Kiss has become a kind of shorthand for what got Adam in trouble that night. For one thing, it is not irrelevant that that is what our hyped up, sexually paranoid media latched on to that night. For another, I firmly believe that if Adam had been a straight man, far fewer people would have freaked, none of this would have been so controversial, and he would not have been banned from GMA the morning after. In that sense, The Kiss, because it is the symbol for the "orientation" of the performance and the performer, is in fact a very accurate moment to use to represent why Adam was punished for his behavior. One thing I kind of wish is that more reporters would make the point that when Adam was axed from GMA for "loving not wisely but too well," it was recently convicted woman-beater CB who was originally chosen in the last minute to fill his slot. Although in the end CB came on a couple of weeks later instead, that little fact says a lot about the network/show's values, and also makes the Adam link in this new series of stories a little more relevant. In the end, though, this story is not really about either of them--they're just useful figure heads for two aspects of our pop-culture, sex and violence, that ABC and much of the country seems to relatively value in completely fucked up and up-side-down ways. Of course Adam, sexayyy as he is, is about much more than sex, as I assume CB is about much more than violence, but I don't resent, for the moment, the role that's been assigned to him. I hope, as Adam said post AMAs, that this begins a much needed conversation... OH, and Hoopla--you're a ray of sunshine this morning, girl! Glad you liked the "favorite color" vid I posted on p. 1. Check it out, folks, it really is a classy song/peformance/remix.
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Post by mahailia on Mar 25, 2011 11:09:28 GMT -5
someone upthread asked if everyone had received their mycharity:water photos... I haven't. I think many are still waiting. I know someone who was in the first wave of emails who hasn't received it yet so I think it's going to be awhile. I don't mind that at all. With the DVD release done, it gives me something to look forward to. I never even got the email asking for my address, should I send them a request? Been lurking mostly, but wanted to welcome all the new members, and wish everyone who's had one, Happy Birthday!!!!
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Post by murly on Mar 25, 2011 11:12:10 GMT -5
ABC's treatment of Adam v. Brown seems strange and inconsistent indeed. However, the blogs and articles highlighting this point have conveniently forgotten/ignored that there was more to Adam's performance that people objected to than the male-male kiss (simulated oral sex, trolley stop). While there were other performances on the AMA that were equally sexual, I don't think it is appropriate for people to argue that Adam's ban from ABC was just because of the kiss. That's just plain inaccurate. Are they "conveniently" forgetting this to give more credence to their argument? I don't think any of us have forgotten or are ignoring the simulated sex in Adam's performance. I think we all know that it wasn't just about the kissing part. The "kiss" is more of a shorthand reference for it all and I don't feel like I'm being dishonest when I use it that way.
This, too. I'm still shaking my head over the fact that when the picture of the kiss was shown on news reports later, it was more often than not blurred out. As if the sight of lips meeting was pornographic. So it's not overstating the case to say that people were majorly freaked out about the kiss, and therefore it's valid to use it to sum up the furor over Adam's performance.
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Post by wal on Mar 25, 2011 11:15:50 GMT -5
You can vote and they have Adam's "ASK:REPLY" VEVO interview. Q104Cleveland Q104 Cleveland We're on to round 2 in Q Music Madness and today is the ultimate #AmericanIdol face off @kelly_Clarkson vs. @adamlambert ow.ly/4mnDc25 minutes ago Q Music Madness – #5 Adam Lambert Vs #11 Kelly ClarksonThis could be deemed “The Unofficial Ultimate Battle of the American Idol Finalists”… or not… Either way, these two pop powerhouses continue to battle it out for the coveted title of Today’s Best Artist! Link: q104.radio.com/2011/03/25/q-music-madness-5-adam-lambert-vs-11-kelly-clarkson/
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Post by chunkeymonkey81 on Mar 25, 2011 11:19:26 GMT -5
For those who asked me about this yesterday. My perf night idol recap. I would post this in the idol thread but I know more ppl are in here, esp the ones who asked me to post the link when I put it up. Plus it relates to Adam bc I am SHAMLESSLY using him to get hits. lmaooo www.thehomeplanet.org/?p=65365ps there may be a few gifs that arent showing up....well they arent for me and I'm investigating why lol
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Post by wal on Mar 25, 2011 11:22:28 GMT -5
In case you missed JazzRock's post earlier, if you are interested. (Deal is for next 2 hours only.)
Sherrie Richey MD
On Tuesday 22nd March 2011, @artistsupporter said:
Spread the word. All email requests w US iTunes email addresses & Glamnation in the subject 2 sdljroller@msn.com received on 3/25 between 8 & 10 am Alaska time will be gifted @adamlambert's Glamnation CD/DVD.
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Post by wal on Mar 25, 2011 11:26:10 GMT -5
elliegf Ellie G. GLAMBERTS!! Sleepwalker closes the week at #1 on the Voice Top 10! <3 Now the video is also up for rating!!! bit.ly/c5McYd Go heart it, watch and rate!!! (don't mind the comments section, it's in Bulgarian anyway! ) TY and RT! 1 hour ago
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