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Post by sugaree on Jul 20, 2012 10:21:34 GMT -5
Sticking my head in very briefly to address a point I've seen brought up both last night and this morning. YOUTUBES DO NOT USUALLY PROVIDE ACCURATE SOUND!!!For Adam shows, they are usually created by pulling sound off a camera not designed for sound capture (or sometimes even a phone), which is then garbled more via the downloading/uploading processes. Everyone in person said Pop That Lock sounded great. However, while tinafea's YouTube looked great, the sound was muddy, backing track nearly impossible to hear, and Adam's voice was thinned out. [shrug] Its what often happens when visual equipment tries to do double duty as audio equipment. IMO, peeps need to be more understanding/reminded of media transmission issues when critiquing performances off of YouTube vids. What you "hear" may be significantly different than what the audience heard at the show. Thanks hoppers. Good example. I had a big Adam fan here last night and was gushing and raving about Adam and Queen. Played a vid of Show Must Go On. She and hubby asked me to shut it off because it sounded terrible. Played a few other vids from different Queenbert concerts, and the reaction was the same. And they both know what great singers and musicians sound like live and on professional recordings. Made me sad that I couldn't show them a good example of the amazingness of the whole thing. |
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Post by swarm on Jul 20, 2012 10:24:03 GMT -5
OK so I went back to listen to Naked Love for example and caught Adam complimenting Tommy on his "guitar sole was really cool" which I thought was sweet. He's no dummy. He knows the comparisons are inevitable.  And I think Tommy's guitar sounds good. Sometimes I can't hear it but I did just now and have no complaints. LOL with the "are you having fun" individual polling of band members. I wonder if that's a nod to the banter critiques. I LOVED his banter last night and can totes see a whole new relaxed talking Adam post Queen YAY! I see a great difference in the banter too...so relaxed, so unscripted. Yay! :D (I've done my fair share of critiquing [img src=" ![]() i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx348/Quu3/Adam%20Smilys/Other%20Smileys/icon_redface.gif"] [/IMG] ) [/quote] Right? I always thought the hardest part of the job for Adam was transitioning at his own pace from stage scripts for 20 years to spontaneous talking especially in front of non-Glamberts where he feels safe. Like the Chicago radio concert this era with all those college town peeps there for other people. I mean, which fucking way to go? He always says "be yourself" to say, the Idols he mentored but there's alot more to it to engage an audience. But that Queen gig was a phenomenal thing. From playing it straight to twirling his ass off with abandon! WERQ! And the fact that he brought Brian back from his youth had to be a SUPER huge ego boost, let alone the screaming Queen fans loving him. I think he's done that now and his sincerity just being himself is great. I was so impressed with Gaga I tweeted him a video (below)just saying "LOL"...where she is getting shit thrown on stage by fans including their PHONES and she sits down and is just talking to them. Then she picks up the phones and starts calling their contacts from their phones, going through their wallets, asking whos credit cards are in there, and in the end invites the phone owners to come (backstage I think) to pick them up. She was really great at that part of the show and surprised me. I don't know if she's always that way but she was really cute. And her years of playing crap bars doing unpolished stupid shit really paid off IMO. Of course it never hurts to know that every single person in that venue thinks you can do no wrong LOL. That they just didn't show up because it was a free show or a neighborhood festival. www.fanpop.com/spots/lady-gaga/videos/31203249/title/little-monsters-throwing-phones-wallets-makeup-lady-gaga-btwb-sydney-20th-june-2012 |
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Post by swarm on Jul 20, 2012 10:34:51 GMT -5
ADAM LAMBERT - Naked Love, If I Had You - Pac Amph 7-19-12 I'm not hearing the divas out of tune, I'm hearing Adam selected a higher harmony than is on the record in the beginning. I believe it's intentional. Not to kick a dead horse or anything LOL.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2012 10:38:14 GMT -5
ALL these things are us...... Sa - ow - li (?) This so cracked me up. |
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Post by lambo on Jul 20, 2012 10:42:44 GMT -5
ADAM LAMBERT - Naked Love, If I Had You - Pac Amph 7-19-12 I'm not hearing the divas out of tune, I'm hearing Adam selected a higher harmony than is on the record in the beginning. I believe it's intentional. Not to kick a dead horse or anything LOL.... Reyna takes Adam's lead vocal on the original, Keisha takes the higher harmony. At 1:03 I hear Reyna go out of tune. But if it doesn't bother you, or anyone else, or especially Adam, then GOOD, maybe my ears are just oversensitive |
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Post by theosgma on Jul 20, 2012 10:49:57 GMT -5
Woke up this morning after that amazing concert last night and wanted to give another perspective. We were very close up in the pit third row so we could really get the "vibe". Vocals were amazing, Adam looked amazing, audience was awesome with the unfortunate exception of the first row of pit where a family was sitting (and I mean just sitting) the whole time with very sullen kids around 12 years old. Adam had to yell at them to get up at one point which they did but sat right down again. I felt like that was a bit of a metaphor for my next comments.
Adam arrived on stage and it took a little while before lights came up but we could see him very well. Grandducchess said it perfectly. He was composed and reflective and as soon as the lights came on, he turned on the switch.
My sense the whole night was exactly that - he turned on the switch rather than he stepped into the strong current of his own joy and energy integrated and spontaneous from the inside out. This is not a complaint. He is a consummate performer and amazing professional and will give his all every time.
I loved him for that and I loved the level he delivered on but that UNENCUMBERED transcendental effervescent joy was not really there. I don't think it would be picked up from any distance back. It was subtle and on a feeling level. Nothing concrete. I chalk it up to fatigue (his tweet about his tired ass), the inevitable (how could it be otherwise) coming down from his tour experience (and yes, I am onboard totally with Adam being a superstar with his own music) and the reality of what lies ahead.
He needs a good rest, good loving (which I am sure he has!) and our unconditional love in the form of support, positivity, turning out for his concerts and spreading the word.
Great news was the very heterogeneous audience. TONS of men! Lots of them straight totally into it. Lots of kids - both sexes. Lots of families and an army of very happy women of all ages. We had a great experience interacting with many of the younger fans and grandducchess pointed out the precious gift of the cross generational communication that is present in this fandom. Our new young friends were delighted with knowing our "history" with Adam and the extent of our commitment and we were delighted with their passion and insanity.
Looking forward to FS and Winstar. Fascinating journey with our Adam. Love him so much.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2012 10:51:44 GMT -5
Sticking my head in very briefly to address a point I've seen brought up both last night and this morning. YOUTUBES DO NOT USUALLY PROVIDE ACCURATE SOUND!!!For Adam shows, they are usually created by pulling sound off a camera not designed for sound capture (or sometimes even a phone), which is then garbled more via the downloading/uploading processes. Everyone in person said Pop That Lock sounded great. However, while tinafea's YouTube looked great, the sound was muddy, backing track nearly impossible to hear, and Adam's voice was thinned out. [shrug] Its what often happens when visual equipment tries to do double duty as audio equipment. IMO, peeps need to be more understanding/reminded of media transmission issues when critiquing performances off of YouTube vids. What you "hear" may be significantly different than what the audience heard at the show. You read my mind -- I was about to post the same thing! I was at the concert last night, and the sound was actually really good. I realize that the quality of the sound can vary a bit depending on where you are sitting in a venue, but from my vantage point, it was good. The sound mix also worked -- Adam's voice was in the forefront, not drowned out by the band or the back-up singers. So, I have to agree with Hoppers -- at the end of the day, the best way to capture sound at a concert is with professional recording equipment, not with the crappy little audio recorders in a camera or a phone. A few more concert observations: - Adam was his usual happy, bouncy self. Really seemed to feed off the energy of the crowd, who loved him. (And yes, there was a lot of bouncing and jumping, with Adam leading the charge.  - My partner, who loves Adam (but is not a stan), thought the concert, and especially Adam, was great. We last saw Adam during the GNT, and his comment was: "Wow, Adam is even better than the last time we saw him!" We were both gobsmacked. I've got to say that recordings don't capture the full beauty and power of Adam's voice. - I saw Lee Cherry prowling around the stage, camera in hand, so we should (I hope!) see some great concert photos at some point. Finally, my partner and I had a great time chatting with the folks sitting around us. However, because we were so busy talking (mainly about Adam), I didn't get their names. : Just wanted to say Adam fans are a lovely bunch, and I hope I get to meet more peeps tomorrow at FS. |
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Jul 20, 2012 10:54:39 GMT -5
Sticking my head in very briefly to address a point I've seen brought up both last night and this morning. YOUTUBES DO NOT USUALLY PROVIDE ACCURATE SOUND!!!For Adam shows, they are usually created by pulling sound off a camera not designed for sound capture (or sometimes even a phone), which is then garbled more via the downloading/uploading processes. Everyone in person said Pop That Lock sounded great. However, while tinafea's YouTube looked great, the sound was muddy, backing track nearly impossible to hear, and Adam's voice was thinned out. [shrug] Its what often happens when visual equipment tries to do double duty as audio equipment. IMO, peeps need to be more understanding/reminded of media transmission issues when critiquing performances off of YouTube vids. What you "hear" may be significantly different than what the audience heard at the show. Good point, I remember being amazed when I heard Glam Nation Live at how much fuller the arrangements sounded compared to what I was used to from YouTube vids. But if this was @ vajayjays critique, YouTube vids wouldn't change their pitch. Not sure if you were responding to that or critiques about PTL live? Thanks hoppers. Good example. I had a big Adam fan here last night and was gushing and raving about Adam and Queen. Played a vid of Show Must Go On. She and hubby asked me to shut it off because it sounded terrible. Played a few other vids from different Queenbert concerts, and the reaction was the same. And they both know what great singers and musicians sound like live and on professional recordings. Made me sad that I couldn't show them a good example of the amazingness of the whole thing. Personally, one of the reason I rarely watch vids, is that the sound gets me waaaaay too frustrated. Technically, the microphones on phones (and to a great exent cameras) are optimized to focus on the relatively narrow band of frequencies that most speaking voices utilize, and NOT on anything else as that equipment is designed to ELIMINATE non-spoken "background" noise. Ergo, most of the harmonics and other frequencies that give a musical performance that "depth" and "rounded" sound are intentionally not captured. Which is why I flove that traditional Queen ninja's (like Grateful Dead ninjas) walk into concerts with cyborg-like audio equipment. Because THAT machinery *is* designed to capture a full range of sound frequencies. And the files obtained from that (thanks talon!!) is likewise designed to present a full frequency experience, versus a lot of file types used for visual processing which "shortcut" sample the audio to save space. [grins] Of course the best of both world is when someone like lambossed splices the two together. But that takes her a lot of time and energy, and often isn't available until weeks or months after the show. |
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And I think Tommy's guitar sounds good. Sometimes I can't hear it but I did just now and have no complaints. 
