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Post by lm2718 on Aug 16, 2012 21:17:02 GMT -5
I will be happy to translate this Israeli article. Please let me know how to make the picture larger without losing the resolution. You can read it here: www.nrg.co.il/online/24/ART2/373/196.htmlBut it isn't new, it's from the end of May. I'm not sure why it's popped up again. It's composed of interviews Adam gave elsewhere, I can recognize the exect same phrases and words. And they didn't do a very good job of that either. For example - he talks about the EMA's in the future tense, and they didn't even notice that by the time the magazine was released it was already in the past. Toda! You are right, nothing new. No one edits anymore :  (so many articles on ma'ariv & ynet are poorly edited and composed of recycled news) |
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Post by kittykay on Aug 16, 2012 21:18:38 GMT -5
I have teen daughters. I can help only from what I have experienced. One of my daughters was/is a huge Jonas Fan. I have seen Nick three times in concert, twice with the brothers and once alone (He is very shy when not singing). Nick's fans have all went to One Direction. They do not want to see Nick on Idol (They think it is for old people). The reality show with the brother has some possibilities. They are interested in the romance of Kevin and his new wife. Demi and XFactor are a different story. One Direction came from XFactor UK. All the 1D fans re-watch the videos of the XF performances. This has introduced the format to them. They are excited to see Demi. They consider her a role model whose singing career is at the beginning stage. My daughter and her group did not watch the XFactor US season 1 but are planning to give it a chance for its second season. They have no interest in Britney. I asked if there was anyone to get them to watch idol. She said maybe Pink, but really the format and music of Idol were boring. They know nothing or care about Mariah. My daughter belongs to a PG Jonas Forum which is mostly girls 13 to 20. That is where they talk about 1D and their hatred for Beiber. They want Nick on Broadway and singing with his brothers. They rarely talk about Nick or Joe Jonas any more, only the married couple. I hope this helps understand the lack of Nick enthusiasm for AI judge. I wondered the same thing about Ryan and the cross promotion. The media has only two working journalist. Ryan Seacrest for Entertainment. George Stephanopoulos for everything else. IMO Demi was the bargain of the year. It was brilliant casting on the part of Simon Cowell. Time will tell. Yeah, I get all that. In an earlier thread, I predicted my daughter would say "Him? He's so old" when I floated the idea of Nick Jonas as a possible judge (she's all of 11) a few weeks ago. I wasn't quite right; she said "What? They were big, like, three years ago!" ;D And she and all her friends are great admirers of Demi Lovato. They are too young to understand about drug addiction (hopefully), but they do have a sense of her getting her act together and I think it makes them feel savvy to know a least a bit about it--whether we want them to or not. (Then again, Charlie Sheen is a major cultural touchstone to them, who they regard as a total loser but still talk about and is the punchline of nonsensical jokes! I say, why are you doing that??!!! He's not worth any kind of infamy/notoriety he receives, especially from middle schoolers!  They are just sorting out "grown-up" issues, I think.) So I get that teens will roll their eyes, but I don't think AI necessarily has its finger on the pulse of the American teenager. (I mean, come on; it's such a corny show, which had a big appeal for me--before things got real, lol.) I also think they could view NJ as having a career/reputation that could be resuscitated. All their previous picks have been a little long in the tooth, to say the least. They might still view NJ as "fresh." Anyway, hopefully I'm completely wrong! American Idol has been too dated for me the last couple of seasons, let alone my teens. This generation doesn't watch very much TV. Their life is online. I don't think Demi was in rehab for drugs. She was cutting and had an eating disorder. They admire her for being so open with common teen problems. Is your daughter into 1D? They are cute. I would have been a fan at 15. ;D |
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Post by puteri on Aug 16, 2012 21:19:27 GMT -5
Is this real or fan made? It is pretty damn perfect! ETA: It must be fan made. She also has one on her channel using Shady! I can confirm this is not fan made.. I am from malaysia and subscribe axn asia.. this is their real promo with really adam's song being played.. |
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Post by kittykay on Aug 16, 2012 21:22:41 GMT -5
Tomorrow I will take a poll of my 100 13 year old girl students and ask them if they are planning to watch American Idol this season, just because I am now curious, lol. Nationalglampoon CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! I can't wait to see what Nile might be planning with Adam. Remember his HUGE idea? Im also looking forward to Nile's album with Daft Punk. Ask about XFactor as well. I am curious if the opinion is universal. Bless you teaching middle school girls. LOL The sweetest ones can suddenly be spinning their heads ans spitting pea soup. #Hormones |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 21:25:33 GMT -5
Tomorrow I will take a poll of my 100 13 year old girl students and ask them if they are planning to watch American Idol this season, just because I am now curious, lol. Nationalglampoon CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! I can't wait to see what Nile might be planning with Adam. Remember his HUGE idea? Im also looking forward to Nile's album with Daft Punk. lynne, be sure to ask them about Nick Jonas. I think your classes would bea really good sampling. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 21:26:56 GMT -5
Is this real or fan made? It is pretty damn perfect! ETA: It must be fan made. She also has one on her channel using Shady! I can confirm this is not fan made.. I am from malaysia and subscribe axn asia.. this is their real promo with really adam's song being played.. Really?!! That is awesome! And they used Shady too!!  |
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Post by jean1010 on Aug 16, 2012 21:27:55 GMT -5
Yeah, and I'm not getting the cross-pollination between E!, NBC, and Fox. I didn't get how Ryan Seacrest became a correspondent/interviewer at the NBC Olympics when he is so closely associated with Fox, and how "Home" all the sudden gets major exposure on a competing network because Al Michael's daughter is involved in American Idol. And didn't someone post that there is a new show on E! that Ryan Seacrest is producing with Kevin Jonas, with Nick making occasional appearances? (I really have not been following closely to know if my facts are straight, but all these things do give one pause if they are true.) I dunno. That and the Demi Lovato as representing the "youth contingent" on X-Factor, the criticism of Idol not being youth-oriented enough, and the resurgence of boy bands, like One Direction. I really think we need to view this as a big possibility. I have teen daughters. I can help only from what I have experienced. One of my daughters was/is a huge Jonas Fan. I have seen Nick three times in concert, twice with the brothers and once alone (He is very shy when not singing). Nick's fans have all went to One Direction. They do not want to see Nick on Idol (They think it is for old people). The reality show with the brother has some possibilities. They are interested in the romance of Kevin and his new wife. Demi and XFactor are a different story. One Direction came from XFactor UK. All the 1D fans re-watch the videos of the XF performances. This has introduced the format to them. They are excited to see Demi. They consider her a role model whose singing career is at the beginning stage. My daughter and her group did not watch the XFactor US season 1 but are planning to give it a chance for its second season. They have no interest in Britney. I asked if there was anyone to get them to watch idol. She said maybe Pink, but really the format and music of Idol were boring. They know nothing or care about Mariah. My daughter belongs to a PG Jonas Forum which is mostly girls 13 to 20. That is where they talk about 1D and their hatred for Beiber. They want Nick on Broadway and singing with his brothers. They rarely talk about Nick or Joe Jonas any more, only the married couple. I hope this helps understand the lack of Nick enthusiasm for AI judge. I wondered the same thing about Ryan and the cross promotion. The media has only two working journalist. Ryan Seacrest for Entertainment. George Stephanopoulos for everything else. IMO Demi was the bargain of the year. It was brilliant casting on the part of Simon Cowell. Time will tell. It was interesting to hear your young teen's take on Idol and its lack of cool factor. My own twenty something children are not fans of Idol either, and in fact tease me about it in a good natured way. I wonder if Idol has the oldest demo of all these shows? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 21:29:44 GMT -5
junkets, kittykay is correct. Demi's rehab was for an eating disorder (not drugs) and also she was a "cutter." She had extremely low self esteem. I like Demi a lot. She can sing and I am hoping she stays healthy.
See Q3's post below. It was also drugs and alcohol. :(
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Post by junkets on Aug 16, 2012 21:35:19 GMT -5
Is your daughter into 1D? They are cute. I would have been a fan at 15. ;D Oh yes! Total obsession. And I completely get it. The British accents (and one Irish accent--I know all about them somehow, lol, since my daughter talks incessantly about them), the cute, nonthreatening looks and image, the really catchy songs. I even like their music. (NationalGlampoon, I think I need your ducking tomatoes emoticon!  ) I find it well-crafted. My daughter was a big Beatles fan, so we both had the George Harrison crush going on at early ages. ETA: Thanks for the clarification. I honestly thought that Demi Lovato's problems were drug-related. I was getting my info through the filter of TigerBeat, etc. so I was always thinking they put a lighter spin on darker issues. (Plus, of course, I'm not sitting down and reading teeny-bopper mags cover to cover, of course, just looking at them when my daughter is showing me stuff!) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 21:35:57 GMT -5
Sorry, for spamming :(
I think Idol has plenty of young fans. You can go to any Idol Tour during summer and it is packed with young girls. Middle aged girls too!
You know, I'm honestly not sure that Idol wants that young an audience. I think they may realize they are not going to get it. But if they can get some of their fans back that deserted it, and add a few more in the 18-40 demographic, that'd be great.
Then again, they are still #1 and pulling numbers like 15-18 million after 11 years is something any show would kill for!
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(so many articles on ma'ariv & ynet are poorly edited and composed of recycled news)
) I find it well-crafted. My daughter was a big Beatles fan, so we both had the George Harrison crush going on at early ages.