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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2012 9:26:56 GMT -5
Whether this is more staged than not - or not staged at all - it's not good. I think of Adam's comments on - what was it, "Teen Mom"? - and what I think is that this is NOT the direction he would like to see American Idol go in. So, I'm happy it wasn't Adam sitting where Randy or Keith were, although I think Adam INSTEAD of Nicki or Mariha probably would have been a good panel.
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Post by cassie on Oct 3, 2012 10:39:36 GMT -5
It may just be my personal projection, but I am imagining Adam reading about the cat fight and drinking a toast that he was half a world away in China performing to millions instead of having to sit thru that idiocy with a polite smile on his face.
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Post by kathleenpf on Oct 3, 2012 11:06:43 GMT -5
Whether this is more staged than not - or not staged at all - it's not good. I think of Adam's comments on - what was it, "Teen Mom"? - and what I think is that this is NOT the direction he would like to see American Idol go in. So, I'm happy it wasn't Adam sitting where Randy or Keith were, although I think Adam INSTEAD of Nicki or Mariha probably would have been a good panel. I completely agree with this. I'm not a big believer in the old adage "all publicity is good publicity." I think this kind of drama will not draw viewers. Complete turn-off and takes ALL the focus off the contestants. There has already been criticism that these shows are not about finding talent anymore and if it was indeed staged, I think they're moving in a completely wrong direction. Frustrating to me as I really do love the idea of Idol and other talent competitions. Too bad they've become chaotic, bloated and charmless IMO. |
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Post by Craazyforadam on Oct 3, 2012 14:59:07 GMT -5
Totally agree with everything that is said here.
What speaks for 'staged; is that somebody must have routed that tape to TMZ.
But a slightly alternative suggestion is that somebody within the producer team is seeing that the ship is going down the way it is and sees this leak as an opportunity to trigger the drastic change that is potentially called for, the breaking of one of these contracts, probably Nicki's.
But that would mean that you have a split going through the management team, between those that want this drama and engaged the judges accordingly and those that don't want this direction.
Of course, this is just speculation, but it does make some sense to me.
And as all said, in retrospect we have to be glad that Adam is not in Keith's seat right now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2012 15:05:54 GMT -5
Martin Short and Anderson Cooper discussed the Minaj/Carey "feud" this morning. Martin Short talks about the "lack of elegance" on TV. Gotta say I agree with these two guys:
For my part, I think Adam is fortunate not to be part of the Idol mess. With all of the focus on the diva wars, I think he might have gotten lost in the shuffle. And poor Keith Urban is probably thinking that he should have asked for more money before he signed up for this trainwreck.
It's too bad. Idol used to be a fun show. Yes, the contestants are most important, but the quality of the judges definitely has an impact on my enjoyment of the show. And the judges have been pretty bad since Season 9. I hope somehow the show can get back on track.
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Post by cassie on Oct 3, 2012 15:22:14 GMT -5
That commentary is wonderful. Adam WOULD have brought elegance and class to the panel. Those are two perfect descriptors of Adam. I guess the producers and advertisers were looking for a Real Housewives vibe instead. And they are probably right that it will bring new viewership to the program. If that's the type of consumer they are after. Wonder what it bodes for the contestants that the producers will select to put thru. :  : :  |
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Post by tigerlily on Oct 3, 2012 15:31:14 GMT -5
Totally agree with everything that is said here. What speaks for 'staged; is that somebody must have routed that tape to TMZ. But a slightly alternative suggestion is that somebody within the producer team is seeing that the ship is going down the way it is and sees this leak as an opportunity to trigger the drastic change that is potentially called for, the breaking of one of these contracts, probably Nicki's. But that would mean that you have a split going through the management team, between those that want this drama and engaged the judges accordingly and those that don't want this direction. Of course, this is just speculation, but it does make some sense to me. And as all said, in retrospect we have to be glad that Adam is not in Keith's seat right now.Adam would probably be in Randy's place, with Mariah moved to the end of the table, and he and Keith would be sharing a big bag of  :D I've wondered the same thing as you have, if this tape was leaked so that they can find a way to get out of their contract with Nicki. She comes from the hip hop/rap world, which is like the "wrestling world" in the spectrum of musical genres. They curse at each other, fight at bars, and talk smack about other artists- that's the "culture of hip hop". Why did the producers think that this particular cultural viewpoint would fit in with the average AI viewer? : This whole situation is a hot mess and TPTB deserve what they get for being stupid enough to think this panel of judges was a good idea. |
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Post by LindaG23 on Oct 3, 2012 15:41:14 GMT -5
Adam would probably be in Randy's place, with Mariah moved to the end of the table, and he and Keith would be sharing a big bag of :D I love this image ... Smack starts
Adam and Keith look at each other
Reach under the desk
Grab popcorn
Tilt their chairs back, feet on desk
Start chomping
Heads swivel back and forth like at a tennis match
Occasionally look at each other and : Fight would be over in seconds. ;D |
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Post by evergreen on Oct 3, 2012 15:57:04 GMT -5
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Post by maria1 on Oct 4, 2012 18:39:05 GMT -5
Nicki is going hard on Mariah in her Twitter: twitter.com/NICKIMINAJ I originally read about this in an entertainment blog from Canada that I like to read. It's written by Lainey who is an entertainment correspondent in E Talk at CTV in Canada. I like her blog because she can be snarky, but she is also very smart, and never mean unless it's earned. She is quite well connected. She also has other people who contribute to the blog as well, and they have a lifestyle section, book section, a lot of material on movies and TV shows and so on. Anyway, Lainey finds Mariah Carey totally fascinating, but not on a fan girl way. She has been looking forwards to Idol, and predicted (obviously) that Nicki and Mariah may not sit well in the same panel. She wrote about the Nicki-Mariah dust up yesterday, saying also:"I too have heard from a couple of contacts who’ve been in touch with Urban. They’ve confirmed that Urban is having a terrible, terrible time. He is uncomfortable around conflict and the stress of being caught in the Mimi Minaj confrontation is weighing heavily on him." laineygossip.com/Articles/Details/24802/Nicki-Minaj-is-mad-because-Mariah-Carey-always-talks-about-herselfI also read somewhere that Mariah had told Barbara Walters on The View that she had hired extra security because Nikki made her "emotionally uncomfortable". Even if this was originally a publicity stunt (as it may have been), this looks either quite real and out of control now, or something that is just IMO going way too far. This is not good publicity for a big family show. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2012 21:21:39 GMT -5
Agree! It is horrible publciity for a family show!!
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Post by adamme on Oct 4, 2012 23:07:08 GMT -5
Boy... I'm so happy Adam is not in that mess..
pheww... anything happen for a reason .. ;D
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Post by smokeyvera on Oct 7, 2012 14:17:04 GMT -5
We were all holding our breath RT @musicdnews: Nicki Minaj To Stay On American Idol goo.gl/fb/clKFQ #americanidol #news #reality |
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Post by cassie on Oct 7, 2012 16:33:10 GMT -5
We were all holding our breath RT @musicdnews: Nicki Minaj To Stay On American Idol goo.gl/fb/clKFQ #americanidol #news #reality Quelle surprise! |
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