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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2012 22:39:30 GMT -5
The Voice @nbcthevoice .@danielrosamusic & @alexismarceaux WRECKED @adamlambert's "Whataya Want From Me": youtu.be/IkLtmfn6k84 #Battles #TeamCeeLo Must have been a typo
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Post by Albiku on Oct 22, 2012 22:40:42 GMT -5
The Voice @nbcthevoice .@danielrosamusic & @alexismarceaux WRECKED @adamlambert's "Whataya Want From Me": youtu.be/IkLtmfn6k84 #Battles #TeamCeeLo Must have been a typo
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Post by Craazyforadam on Oct 22, 2012 22:43:36 GMT -5
Here it is, albiku! Click to enlarge! ;D Thanks Betty for helping me out. I am only now getting back to my computer and see you have already answered for me. Albiku, Adam visited a radio station (I think it was Radio Energy Berlin, but not sure anymore, perhaps Betty still knows) and they tend to give their interviewees a blank piece of paper and ask them to just jot down whatever comes to mind. They asked Adam to draw whatever came to his mind about Berlin. And supposedly he spontaneously and quickly drew THIS. Now Adam has lived in Berlin for 6 months, so it is not just the impression of a moment that is expressed here, but there is so much Berlin symbolism in this picture and it is so cleverly designed and layered, just like his music and lyrics tend to be too, that it just was representative of the overall topic. ETA: In German we have a word for this kind of use of music and it is called 'Lautmalerei' and so I looked up what it is in English, so I could use the expression, but the English translation is......well let's just say it is literally Greek to me, lol......'onomatopoeia', so I presume that helps you just as much as it would have helped me to read this Greek word without knowing its German translation. Lautmalerei means 'painting with sounds' and Adam does it brilliantly. He uses breath control, phrasing, pronunciation, resonance, and of course his whole vocal arsenal to do exactly that. Paint a picture for us. He does it on the album too, but even more so during live performances. Did not know that English does not have a word for this. Also, in English, the it seems to refer only to words that sound like whatever they are trying to express, the German word is much wider in its meaning.
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Post by wiga on Oct 22, 2012 22:48:12 GMT -5
I have enjoyed Adam's many takes on WWFM. The green tornado on Idol was just unforgettable. I loved also the recap on EW about Adam's performance that night. I forget who the writer was, he was usually pretty snarky about every thing, but he GUSHED over that performance. I seem to remember him just repeating that he could not believe Adam's voice and how wonderfully it sounded during that performance.
The song I heard today, on my Trespassing CD that I wish had done better was Better Than I Know Myself. That song sounds easy when he does it, but I bet there are very few people who can do it justice as well.
I absolutely adore the Jay Leno performance of BTIKM, I am so glad I downloaded it. When I do watch it, I have the hear the last 30 seconds of the song repeatedly. What a voice!
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Post by Soaked on Oct 22, 2012 22:57:23 GMT -5
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Post by cassie on Oct 22, 2012 23:00:10 GMT -5
DAMN! I should have listened to you. Why do I do that to myself? It was only slightly less traumatic than listening to the dentist's drill. The guy should be shot to put me out of my misery. The gal? Slightly less excruciating. But an example of why I avoid Karaoke bars like the plague. And WWFM is actually one of the simpler Adam songs to sing. He is just so gifted in his tone, technique and interpretive skills, no one can touch him. I knew you would end up watching it. We only had to wait a little bit. lol However, IMHO I don't think it's one of the simpler Adam songs to sing. The song is simple. The interpretation is not. The vocals aren't that easy either, particularly if you try to nail the interpretation. lol Broken English here, I can't explain it better. Maybe I found it difficult to sing because I know next to nothing about singing. lol That's entirely possible too. Well, there is "simple" and then there is simple in Adamland. Adam's songs routinely span about an octave and a half from low to high. (And it is not unusual to hear Adam cover two full octaves in the same song.) That's the range of The Star Spangled Banner, arguably the world's most difficult national anthem to sing. When a song gets much over an octave from low to high, most people will not be able to sing all the notes in their chest voice (which is the only way many untrained singers know to sing). The highest notes have to be sung by switching to your head voice. Alternately, you can lower the key of the song to be able to hit the high notes, but then you can't reach the lowest notes. So, practically all of Adam's songs are going to be difficult for an untrained singer to sing well. (For many popular songs, the majority of notes are within a five note range, which most folks can reproduce. ) Another thing that makes Adam's songs challenging is that they tend to jump around in pitch. It is easier to go up or down one or two steps at a time. Adam's songs often jump up or down five, six or seven notes, and more. Imagine playing tennis. It is easier to hit the ball when it keeps coming back to roughly the same area of the court. If you have to run to the back right and then up to the left front to return the balls, it is much harder. Adam's melodies also tend to have notes in them that are a bit unpredictable and harder to hear and reproduce. And that is just talking about the notes and the range, not the wonderful things he does with phrases and interpretation. So, yeah, Adam's "simple" songs are anything but. You know, the common myth is that anybody can sing. It's the most natural thing in the world. Just open your mouth and the sounds come out. It's not like learning an instrument where you have to learn precisely how to place and move your fingers, control your breath and mouth position to blow into the instrument, coordinate your hands which may be doing two very different things at the same time. NOT! Singing WELL, singing in a way that sounds effortless, singing in a way that moves and touches people, and singing properly so as not to damage your vocal cords is very challenging. Once, when talking to Angelina about the nonsense some folks have spewed about Adam not being a REAL musician a because he doesn't play an instrument, Angelina exploded (well, as much as she does), "But we have to work so hard to perfect our voices we don't have TIME to learn another instrument!" Amen to that, sister.
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Post by Albiku on Oct 22, 2012 23:04:46 GMT -5
Thanks Betty for helping me out. I am only now getting back to my computer and see you have already answered for me. Albiku, Adam visited a radio station (I think it was Radio Energy Berlin, but not sure anymore, perhaps Betty still knows) and they tend to give their interviewees a blank piece of paper and ask them to just jot down whatever comes to mind. They asked Adam to draw whatever came to his mind about Berlin. And supposedly he spontaneously and quickly drew THIS. Now Adam has lived in Berlin for 6 months, so it is not just the impression of a moment that is expressed here, but there is so much Berlin symbolism in this picture and it is so cleverly designed and layered, just like his music and lyrics tend to be too, that it just was representative of the overall topic. Whoa, he spontaneously drew that? And he says he isn't that deep... : It's a gorgeous picture, and the depth is just astounding. It makes me love this man even more than I already did. His artistry is just unbelievable. What a creative, clever mind he has! ETA: In German we have a word for this kind of use of music and it is called 'Lautmalerei' and so I looked up what it is in English, so I could use the expression, but the English translation is......well let's just say it is literally Greek to me, lol......'onomatopoeia', so I presume that helps you just as much as it would have helped me to read this Greek word without knowing its German translation. Lautmalerei means 'painting with sounds' and Adam does it brilliantly. He uses breath control, phrasing, pronunciation, resonance, and of course his whole vocal arsenal to do exactly that. Paint a picture for us. He does it on the album too, but even more so during live performances. Did not know that English does not have a word for this. Also, in English, the it seems to refer only to words that sound like whatever they are trying to express, the German word is much wider in its meaning. Actually, in Spanish it's called "onomatopoeia" too (or rather, "onomatopeya"). You explained beautifully the way he paints a picture which tells us a story with the little sounds and nuances he sneaks into the vocals. His interpretation is just amazing, isn't it? He's capable to convey so much while he sings, it's unbelievable. Thanks for the amazing explanation. P.S. I wonder if Adam speaks German... P.S.2 Going to sleep now, Atop family! Night!!!
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Post by betty on Oct 22, 2012 23:04:56 GMT -5
Here it is, albiku! Click to enlarge! ;D Thanks Betty for helping me out. I am only now getting back to my computer and see you have already answered for me. Albiku, Adam visited a radio station (I think it was Radio Energy Berlin, but not sure anymore, perhaps Betty still knows) and they tend to give their interviewees a blank piece of paper and ask them to just jot down whatever comes to mind. They asked Adam to draw whatever came to his mind about Berlin. And supposedly he spontaneously and quickly drew THIS. Now Adam has lived in Berlin for 6 months, so it is not just the impression of a moment that is expressed here, but there is so much Berlin symbolism in this picture and it is so cleverly designed and layered, just like his music and lyrics tend to be too, that it just was representative of the overall topic. ETA: In German we have a word for this kind of use of music and it is called 'Lautmalerei' and so I looked up what it is in English, so I could use the expression, but the English translation is......well let's just say it is literally Greek to me, lol......'onomatopoeia', so I presume that helps you just as much as it would have helped me to read this Greek word without knowing its German translation. Lautmalerei means 'painting with sounds' and Adam does it brilliantly. He uses breath control, phrasing, pronunciation, resonance, and of course his whole vocal arsenal to do exactly that. Paint a picture for us. He does it on the album too, but even more so during live performances. Did not know that English does not have a word for this. Also, in English, the it seems to refer only to words that sound like whatever they are trying to express, the German word is much wider in its meaning. Yes, you are right, it was Radio Energy in Berlin, where he painted the picture! And he also painted another one of himself at BIG FM Radio in Stuttgart one day before!
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Post by betty on Oct 22, 2012 23:08:37 GMT -5
Thanks Betty for helping me out. I am only now getting back to my computer and see you have already answered for me. Albiku, Adam visited a radio station (I think it was Radio Energy Berlin, but not sure anymore, perhaps Betty still knows) and they tend to give their interviewees a blank piece of paper and ask them to just jot down whatever comes to mind. They asked Adam to draw whatever came to his mind about Berlin. And supposedly he spontaneously and quickly drew THIS. Now Adam has lived in Berlin for 6 months, so it is not just the impression of a moment that is expressed here, but there is so much Berlin symbolism in this picture and it is so cleverly designed and layered, just like his music and lyrics tend to be too, that it just was representative of the overall topic. Whoa, he spontaneously drew that? And he says he isn't that deep... : It's a gorgeous picture, and the depth is just astounding. It makes me love this man even more than I already did. His artistry is just unbelievable. What a creative, clever mind he has! ETA: In German we have a word for this kind of use of music and it is called 'Lautmalerei' and so I looked up what it is in English, so I could use the expression, but the English translation is......well let's just say it is literally Greek to me, lol......'onomatopoeia', so I presume that helps you just as much as it would have helped me to read this Greek word without knowing its German translation. Lautmalerei means 'painting with sounds' and Adam does it brilliantly. He uses breath control, phrasing, pronunciation, resonance, and of course his whole vocal arsenal to do exactly that. Paint a picture for us. He does it on the album too, but even more so during live performances. Did not know that English does not have a word for this. Also, in English, the it seems to refer only to words that sound like whatever they are trying to express, the German word is much wider in its meaning. Actually, in Spanish it's called "onomatopoeia" too (or rather, "onomatopeya"). You explained beautifully the way he paints a picture which tells us a story with the little sounds and nuances he sneaks into the vocals. His interpretation is just amazing, isn't it? He's capable to convey so much while he sings, it's unbelievable. Thanks for the amazing explanation. P.S. I wonder if Adam speaks German...P.S.2 Going to sleep now, Atop family! Night!!! Listen from 6.20! ;D www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkenCTooQRo
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Post by lulu1265 on Oct 22, 2012 23:10:49 GMT -5
Thanks everyone for your thoughts and prayers for Katie and Scott's families and myself as well. That's why I love this place so much! :2tears: :2tears:
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