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Post by Albiku on Oct 22, 2012 23:18:21 GMT -5
Well, there is "simple" and then there is simple in Adamland.  Adam's songs routinely span about an octave and a half from low to high. (And it is not unusual to hear Adam cover two full octaves in the same song.) That's the range of The Star Spangled Banner, arguably the world's most difficult national anthem to sing. When a song gets much over an octave from low to high, most people will not be able to sing all the notes in their chest voice (which is the only way many untrained singers know to sing). The highest notes have to be sung by switching to your head voice. Alternately, you can lower the key of the song to be able to hit the high notes, but then you can't reach the lowest notes. So, practically all of Adam's songs are going to be difficult for an untrained singer to sing well. (For many popular songs, the majority of notes are within a five note range, which most folks can reproduce. ) Another thing that makes Adam's songs challenging is that they tend to jump around in pitch. It is easier to go up or down one or two steps at a time. Adam's songs often jump up or down five, six or seven notes, and more. Imagine playing tennis. It is easier to hit the ball when it keeps coming back to roughly the same area of the court. If you have to run to the back right and then up to the left front to return the balls, it is much harder. Adam's melodies also tend to have notes in them that are a bit unpredictable and harder to hear and reproduce. And that is just talking about the notes and the range, not the wonderful things he does with phrases and interpretation. So, yeah, Adam's "simple" songs are anything but. You know, the common myth is that anybody can sing. It's the most natural thing in the world. Just open your mouth and the sounds come out. It's not like learning an instrument where you have to learn precisely how to place and move your fingers, control your breath and mouth position to blow into the instrument, coordinate your hands which may be doing two very different things at the same time. NOT! Singing WELL, singing in a way that sounds effortless, singing in a way that moves and touches people, and singing properly so as not to damage your vocal cords is very challenging. Once, when talking to Angelina about the nonsense some folks have spewed about Adam not being a REAL musician a because he doesn't play an instrument, Angelina exploded (well, as much as she does), "But we have to work so hard to perfect our voices we don't have TIME to learn another instrument!" Amen to that, sister. In my case, I can reach the lower notes and I can also reach the higher notes (or, well, most of them, lol... There are a couple in the song I refuse to even attempt, at least not while I don't know what I'm doing). What I can't do is make the higher notes sound "free". I don't know how to explain it in English, sorry. :-/ Maybe it's because of what you said? Maybe I don't know how to switch to my head voice? ... Who knows? :dunno: I also don't know how to sing with power. My singer friend says that the problem is that I don't know how to relax my vocal cords. :dunno: I want to learn how to sing properly because I absolutely love to sing (I never stop, lol), and I'm afraid I'm going to end up damaging my voice. Also, I want to learn how to properly use my voice mechanism because, as a doctor, I use my voice all the time while talking to the patients. I wouldn't be the first doctor to end up with vocal cord nodules... :-/ |
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Post by virg1877 on Oct 22, 2012 23:18:29 GMT -5
@kathryn17 Adam performed ""Is This Love" ... "With A Little Help From My Friends" & some other choice numbers  " at the weekend Wedding!! NoAngelPF @kathryn17 He did? Awww! How do you know? @kathryn17 @noangelpf I asked the guy he performed with |
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Post by Albiku on Oct 22, 2012 23:21:12 GMT -5
You guys always have the answer to everything! lol Love this place! :Clap: |
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Post by Albiku on Oct 22, 2012 23:29:38 GMT -5
By the way, Cassie, I agree with you and Angelina. It's easy to play an instrument, but it isn't easy to play it well. I happen to think it's the same with the voice. Our vocal cords are an instrument in itself. Everyone can use it, but not everyone can master it, if you know what I mean.
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Post by stardust on Oct 22, 2012 23:38:01 GMT -5
WWFM is now #65 iTunes POP!
Actually, I don't think Ceelo is a very good mentor because he has picked some really bad songs for his people.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2012 23:40:01 GMT -5
DAMN! I should have listened to you. Why do I do that to myself? It was only slightly less traumatic than listening to the dentist's drill. The guy should be shot to put me out of my misery. The gal? Slightly less excruciating. But an example of why I avoid Karaoke bars like the plague. And WWFM is actually one of the simpler Adam songs to sing. He is just so gifted in his tone, technique and interpretive skills, no one can touch him. Speaking of interpretive skills and technique, from the archives.... Ha, ha! As soon as I watched the Voice perfoprmanc, I went to my VCR and watched this! My brain needed it! |
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Post by Albiku on Oct 22, 2012 23:41:08 GMT -5
WWFM is now #65 iTunes POP! This is pretty amazing. :Clap: |
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Post by teddybear on Oct 22, 2012 23:46:09 GMT -5
#63 now
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Post by cassie on Oct 22, 2012 23:51:38 GMT -5
Well, there is "simple" and then there is simple in Adamland. Adam's songs routinely span about an octave and a half from low to high. (And it is not unusual to hear Adam cover two full octaves in the same song.) That's the range of The Star Spangled Banner, arguably the world's most difficult national anthem to sing. When a song gets much over an octave from low to high, most people will not be able to sing all the notes in their chest voice (which is the only way many untrained singers know to sing). The highest notes have to be sung by switching to your head voice. Alternately, you can lower the key of the song to be able to hit the high notes, but then you can't reach the lowest notes. So, practically all of Adam's songs are going to be difficult for an untrained singer to sing well. (For many popular songs, the majority of notes are within a five note range, which most folks can reproduce. ) Another thing that makes Adam's songs challenging is that they tend to jump around in pitch. It is easier to go up or down one or two steps at a time. Adam's songs often jump up or down five, six or seven notes, and more. Imagine playing tennis. It is easier to hit the ball when it keeps coming back to roughly the same area of the court. If you have to run to the back right and then up to the left front to return the balls, it is much harder. Adam's melodies also tend to have notes in them that are a bit unpredictable and harder to hear and reproduce. And that is just talking about the notes and the range, not the wonderful things he does with phrases and interpretation. So, yeah, Adam's "simple" songs are anything but. You know, the common myth is that anybody can sing. It's the most natural thing in the world. Just open your mouth and the sounds come out. It's not like learning an instrument where you have to learn precisely how to place and move your fingers, control your breath and mouth position to blow into the instrument, coordinate your hands which may be doing two very different things at the same time. NOT! Singing WELL, singing in a way that sounds effortless, singing in a way that moves and touches people, and singing properly so as not to damage your vocal cords is very challenging. Once, when talking to Angelina about the nonsense some folks have spewed about Adam not being a REAL musician a because he doesn't play an instrument, Angelina exploded (well, as much as she does), "But we have to work so hard to perfect our voices we don't have TIME to learn another instrument!" Amen to that, sister. In my case, I can reach the lower notes and I can also reach the higher notes (or, well, most of them, lol... There are a couple in the song I refuse to even attempt, at least not while I don't know what I'm doing). What I can't do is make the higher notes sound "free". I don't know how to explain it in English, sorry. :-/ Maybe it's because of what you said? Maybe I don't know how to switch to my head voice? ... Who knows? [img src=" ![]() i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx348/Quu3/Adam%20Smilys/Other%20Smileys/dunno1.gif"] [/IMG] I also don't know how to sing with power. My singer friend says that the problem is that I don't know how to relax my vocal cords. [img src=" ![]() i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx348/Quu3/Adam%20Smilys/Other%20Smileys/dunno1.gif"][/IMG] I want to learn how to sing properly because I absolutely love to sing (I never stop, lol), and I'm afraid I'm going to end up damaging my voice. Also, I want to learn how to properly use my voice mechanism because, as a doctor, I use my voice all the time while talking to the patients. I wouldn't be the first doctor to end up with vocal cord nodules... :-/[/quote] It sounds like there is a great singer inside of you waiting to be released. There is an immediacy to creating music with your body that makes it even more satisfying to me than playing an instrument. Taking voice lessons was one of the best things I have done for myself. My guess about you singing the high notes is that, yes, you need to switch to your head voice for them. That's something voice lessons could teach you to do. When you push and strain your voice to hit those high notes in your chest voice, it sounds strained and full of effort. When you learn how to flip into your head voice properly, it is done with no strain. Pushing your chest voice high is like plodding thru deep snow. Singing those notes in your head voice is like gliding on top of the snow with skis. It will sound "free". Ad you will not cause damage to your voice. Many of the techniques that you learn in voice lessons help you to project and control your voice while speaking as well. You can sound more confident and strong, and make your voice heard in a large room or over noise without strain. I definitely recommend voice training to women who do a lot of public speaking. I know you are super busy with your career at present, but when you can afford the time and the cost, treat yourself to voice lessons with a good teacher. It will be a life long gift to yourself |
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Post by maddie509 on Oct 22, 2012 23:55:48 GMT -5
Well, since we're talking about other people's renditions of WWFM, shall we revisit the most recent WWFM performance?
v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDU2NDc0OTAw.html
And, below is another rendition by a very popular Chinese Pop singer, PingAn. The sound quality isn't the best but the song is one of the hottest songs in China right now!
v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDU3MjUxMTA0.html
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Adam's songs routinely span about an octave and a half from low to high. (And it is not unusual to hear Adam cover two full octaves in the same song.) That's the range of The Star Spangled Banner, arguably the world's most difficult national anthem to sing. When a song gets much over an octave from low to high, most people will not be able to sing all the notes in their chest voice (which is the only way many untrained singers know to sing). The highest notes have to be sung by switching to your head voice. Alternately, you can lower the key of the song to be able to hit the high notes, but then you can't reach the lowest notes. So, practically all of Adam's songs are going to be difficult for an untrained singer to sing well. (For many popular songs, the majority of notes are within a five note range, which most folks can reproduce. )
" at the weekend Wedding!!
