12.3.12 Asia trip ends with Hennessey high note
Dec 3, 2012 18:06:30 GMT -5
Post by hoopla1 on Dec 3, 2012 18:06:30 GMT -5
Well, I sure know how to pick 'em! ;D
Had some free time today, thought I'd skim the daily thread for once--and find myself in the "deep" end lol!
I'm not going to remember every who-said-what, but here's my random two cents:
Seems this interesting/frustrating convo (see how words matter? we'd all probably choose a different adjective, wouldn't we?) started with the choice of words used to describe Johnny's dancing.
Among friends/family/acquaintances with a common interest (again, which word describes Atop?) it's a good thing when someone can say: WUT? what do you mean by those words? that offends me! is that really what you meant to say? ...and then give the other person the chance to clarify (or to further offend, LMAO!)
Just as overt gay behavior may make some uncomfortable, some adjectives/criticism of that behavior makes me uncomfortable.
Rabbitrabbit I loved your post. I do remember that much!
And semantics do count. Miscommunication really takes some sorting out!
Anyway, if a person's behavior makes me uncomfortable, I find it useful to ask myself "Why?" I try so hard to be non-judgmental of others--and I know MY reaction says more about ME than it says about the other person...
So to fast forward to the end, Slapdash brought up A's words at the Glaad event...and I flashed back to the RS interview where he commented on a driver's words to him: "Oh, you're okay, you're not girlie-acting like some of them" and A's response was "That's ignorant..."
So there ya go. That's how ADAM sees people who have issues with "too gay" gays.
Add Slapdash's example (and many, many more)--and OF COURSE Adam has no problem having Johnny as one of his dancers--not when he (Adam) was unknown during his Kiss and Tell performance years ago--and not on a world stage now. (BTW, we may not "know" Johnny, but his dancing style appears to be the same now as it was then. And Adam posed for a picture licking his armpit, too, lol.)
Just as there's a sexual fluidity scale/line that ALL people (not just gays) move around on, there's also a scale that we're all moving around on regarding our comfort levels with sexuality, largely based on our past experiences.
And even though I've been aggravated that today I happened to land here on a "deep" day (and no, it ain't because Adam isn't giving us enough to do...fuck knows, I could flail for a week on recent concerts--or even on just his last song--AYGGMW)...
as always, I've ended up NOT SORRY for spending time here, because y'all reminded me of a childhood memory that accounts for where I am on the acceptance scale.
My Grandma, my mom and my aunts used to all get together around the kitchen table at least once a week for a gabfest. They all used to get their hair "done" once a week--remember those days? And some of the stories were about the hairdresser they went to. This would've been in the late 50's. He was OUTRAGEOUSLY gay. He had a "feminine" hairstyle, long manicured nails, wore makeup, limped his wrist naturally, and laughed and gossiped all day long. They all loved him (I did, too, once I finally got to meet him!) And we're talking in a NW MO town of 80,000. My family never ever laughed at him, or acted like he was anything other than a good person.
I'm really grateful for that.
Oh, and two other quick thoughts...
I do NOT only like Adam's alpha side...I LOVE his femininity, too, although I believe he de-emphasizes that quite a bit for the public these days, not because he's hypocritical, just because he chooses his battles wisely.
I also could.not.care.less what the "public" has an issue with. I think Adam is brilliant at drawing his OWN lines as far as how he wants (or wants his dancers, etc.) to be perceived.
On that issue, as with many others, Adam handles his life better than I handle my own, so more power to him!
NOW HOW 'BOUT THAT DUET??!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Had some free time today, thought I'd skim the daily thread for once--and find myself in the "deep" end lol!
I'm not going to remember every who-said-what, but here's my random two cents:
Seems this interesting/frustrating convo (see how words matter? we'd all probably choose a different adjective, wouldn't we?) started with the choice of words used to describe Johnny's dancing.
Among friends/family/acquaintances with a common interest (again, which word describes Atop?) it's a good thing when someone can say: WUT? what do you mean by those words? that offends me! is that really what you meant to say? ...and then give the other person the chance to clarify (or to further offend, LMAO!)
Just as overt gay behavior may make some uncomfortable, some adjectives/criticism of that behavior makes me uncomfortable.
Rabbitrabbit I loved your post. I do remember that much!
And semantics do count. Miscommunication really takes some sorting out!
Anyway, if a person's behavior makes me uncomfortable, I find it useful to ask myself "Why?" I try so hard to be non-judgmental of others--and I know MY reaction says more about ME than it says about the other person...
So to fast forward to the end, Slapdash brought up A's words at the Glaad event...and I flashed back to the RS interview where he commented on a driver's words to him: "Oh, you're okay, you're not girlie-acting like some of them" and A's response was "That's ignorant..."
So there ya go. That's how ADAM sees people who have issues with "too gay" gays.
Add Slapdash's example (and many, many more)--and OF COURSE Adam has no problem having Johnny as one of his dancers--not when he (Adam) was unknown during his Kiss and Tell performance years ago--and not on a world stage now. (BTW, we may not "know" Johnny, but his dancing style appears to be the same now as it was then. And Adam posed for a picture licking his armpit, too, lol.)
Just as there's a sexual fluidity scale/line that ALL people (not just gays) move around on, there's also a scale that we're all moving around on regarding our comfort levels with sexuality, largely based on our past experiences.
And even though I've been aggravated that today I happened to land here on a "deep" day (and no, it ain't because Adam isn't giving us enough to do...fuck knows, I could flail for a week on recent concerts--or even on just his last song--AYGGMW)...
as always, I've ended up NOT SORRY for spending time here, because y'all reminded me of a childhood memory that accounts for where I am on the acceptance scale.
My Grandma, my mom and my aunts used to all get together around the kitchen table at least once a week for a gabfest. They all used to get their hair "done" once a week--remember those days? And some of the stories were about the hairdresser they went to. This would've been in the late 50's. He was OUTRAGEOUSLY gay. He had a "feminine" hairstyle, long manicured nails, wore makeup, limped his wrist naturally, and laughed and gossiped all day long. They all loved him (I did, too, once I finally got to meet him!) And we're talking in a NW MO town of 80,000. My family never ever laughed at him, or acted like he was anything other than a good person.
I'm really grateful for that.
Oh, and two other quick thoughts...
I do NOT only like Adam's alpha side...I LOVE his femininity, too, although I believe he de-emphasizes that quite a bit for the public these days, not because he's hypocritical, just because he chooses his battles wisely.
I also could.not.care.less what the "public" has an issue with. I think Adam is brilliant at drawing his OWN lines as far as how he wants (or wants his dancers, etc.) to be perceived.
On that issue, as with many others, Adam handles his life better than I handle my own, so more power to him!
NOW HOW 'BOUT THAT DUET??!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
