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Post by smokeyvera on Dec 3, 2012 17:56:58 GMT -5
RL is kicking me in the butt, but I finally read thru several days of threads. I finally got to watch the vids about 10 minutes ago.., and was a little nervous to watch Fever, based on all the discussion. I tend to be a little squirmy with any "in your face behavior", whether is from straights or gays...I don't distinguish...but that's just me. It's my upbringing.
With intrepidation I watched Fever. To me Johnnie was campy, and his actions fit the song. Nothing different than any other singer out there with dancers. It didn't even move my uncomfortable meter.
So coming from a prude, I thought the whole interaction was rather cute.
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Post by geezlouise on Dec 3, 2012 17:57:21 GMT -5
All I know is that when Adam is striding out on the catwalk of that stage singing "Trespassing," flanked by those two young men who both move their bodies with such control, flluidity, athleticism, and joy, men who are and have been his friends too, from "way back" before fame, I feel . . . pride, satisfaction, hope, and happiness. Adam is living his dreams and expressing himself around the world with the help of talented musicians and dancers. I don't cringe, I CHEER! YAY!!!! Me too! :Clap: ETA: YAY for Mikas dull day!!! LOL |
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Post by teddybear on Dec 3, 2012 17:57:38 GMT -5
I'm coming out of lurking because I felt the need to share about the Johnny homophobic comments. If a gay guy says he wants nothing to do with vajayjay, we're all ok with that. It's ok to state that someone finds Johnny's dancing creepy. I find it a turn off, I'm not homophobic just don't like watching him. I think it's safe to say that most of us find Adam and his "masculine" vibe a turn-on. My teenage son (who I've subjected to endless videos of Adam) has gotten to a point where he likes some of Adams music and dare I say style. I played the videos from Shanghai and he left during Fever...too much for his taste. He is straight, he has gay friends but just doesn't like watching anything that overtly gay....that doesn't make him homophobic. If Adam wants to reach the young pop market/radio market - which he clearly wants desparately; he may need to look at the taste of this demographic. I hear you. I have black friends but I just don't like it when they act all ghetto. I mean Beyonce is a class act but when she puts her hair in those braids and starts talking ghetto, girl, I just change the channel. (And Snoop Dog --- c'mon, definitely creepy.) I just don't like overtly black people - I don't know why but that's okay - it's just a question of taste. That's what I tell the kids too - if you think other kids act creepy and different, you don't have to like them. Also, I hart both homophones and alpha mails.  (I don't even care if I got trolled - that's the most fun I've had all day! Yes, that is how dull my day was.) Agreed. I like the people on here but I don't like it when they act all positive and shiny. That doesn't make me a posiphobe :-/ |
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Post by jean1010 on Dec 3, 2012 17:59:15 GMT -5
This is stating the obvious but that is what I do. Some journeys towards tolerance are much more arduous than others because they have different starting spots due to the culture and religion that influenced the formative years. I think it is wonderful that so many people got started on this journey because something about this humane young singer made them question long held and deeply ingrained beliefs. I think those who are going against what they were taught by their parents in this regard often leading to strife are being honest and brave and need to be applauded.
We as a country are collectively on this journey now, and it is moving fast IMO.
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Post by murly on Dec 3, 2012 18:00:52 GMT -5
Well, obviously I know all that. When I said they were different than their peers, I was referring specifically to that moment that Adam has described when he realized that he was attracted to boys and not girls. I have heard several gay people say that they felt uncomfortable and even scared when it occurred to them that they differed from their peer group in that aspect. I believe Adam used the word "horrified."
Let's be realistic--there's no way, in our current society, that a gay child would be able to shrug that off and take comfort in knowing that they're the same in the ways you describe. Of course they are, but their sexuality is what has the potential to get them ridiculed, ostracized, and bullied. It's a big deal. He was horrified because at that point in society there weren't any gay role models for him to look at and see that it was just another part of who he was. Now there is Ellen, NPH, Adam and many others who are paving the way for THIS GENERATION to have a different experience. I am being realistic - I personally have hope for society and refuse to accept that gay kids just have to "learn to deal" with the ignorance. I think if we, as Adam fans, want the focus to be on his music and not on his sexuality we have to stop focusing everything on his sexuality. Every time he doesn't get played on radio, every time he cancels an interview, every time someone dislikes him...it can't be ABOUT THE GAY.
Please point out where I said that. I never said anything close to that.
I am very happy for any gay child who is confident enough in him- or herself to reject the bigotry of some parts of society. But the suicide rates and homelessness rates among LGBT youth are proof that many cannot.
I would love it if everyone in the world could look beyond sexual orientation and just see Adam. Or Ellen. Or you. Or me. We are who we are whether we're gay or straight. But read the comments section of any article about Adam and tell me that it isn't about "the gay" for a large and vocal segment of society. Tell me things have changed. Tell me that gay kids can just look at Adam and feel hunky-dory about their lives. I see the most horrendously hateful comments directed toward this man that we love and I know it's many times worse for a teenager who is insecure and surrounded by bigots.
I feel as if you're lecturing me based on the way the world SHOULD BE and not on the way the world IS.
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Post by wal on Dec 3, 2012 18:02:38 GMT -5
Another date added: shoshanna stone @shoshannastone @valkiria69 Kiev 18, Minsk 15Minsk is the capital city of Belarus. Anybody from Belarus here? :Clap: |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2012 18:02:58 GMT -5
Wal :4OMG:  |
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Post by evergreen on Dec 3, 2012 18:02:59 GMT -5
This is stating the obvious but that is what I do. Some journeys towards tolerance are much more arduous than others because they have different starting spots due to the culture and religion that influenced the formative years. I think it is wonderful that so many people got started on this journey because something about this humane young singer made them question long held and deeply ingrained beliefs. I think those who are going against what they were taught by their parents in this regard often leading to strife are being honest and brave and need to be applauded. We as a country are collectively on this journey now, and it is moving fast IMO. :wub: :wub: |
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Post by FanOfTheMan on Dec 3, 2012 18:04:54 GMT -5
In sum, 1. Some will. 2. Some won't. 3. Speak out. 4. Or don't. Ergo: Adam will continue to be the sexy beast he is and express himself with whomever and however he wants.  |
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Post by melliemom on Dec 3, 2012 18:05:07 GMT -5
[/IMG] [/quote] WOW now I'm convinced that Adam isn't touring,aren't y'all? |
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