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Post by stardust on Dec 31, 2012 14:07:38 GMT -5
[/color][/color] Going back to your post holst... I was surprised that he would post such a public statement especially as he is so supportive and positive...wondering why ?[/quote] It is very surprising, as he usually looks for the best in EVERYONE. I wonder if he or someone in his circle auditioned for this. He is such a nice person, and so new to the business. I just don't want to see him burn any potential bridges.[/quote] It must be very frustrating to an excellent singer to see these roles go to people who can't sing well. |
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Post by ljsmack on Dec 31, 2012 14:08:11 GMT -5
I, too, have read and heard many people (critics, etc) who were much more critical of the movie than Adam was. It's about the money--need big stars to get initial financing and box office. HBO has a puff piece about "the making of...les Miz," that makes a big deal justifying and glorifying the casting. You either like Hooper's style of direction, or you don't. Some critics don't like the music at all--no matter who sings it-- I question their sanity, but... Don't think it was sour grapes on Adam's part at all. Musicals are part of his wheelhouse, and I bet he knows many great singers who can act, but aren't "box office" famous, per se. I think Hugh Jackman and Russell Crowe did not benefit from the loss of physicality (from Hooper's director-style) that is part of some of their other popular movie/broadway successes. I, too, did not appreciate Amanda's Cosette when singing--quite sharp and did not blend with others. The guy who played Marius (he played Jack the Builder on HBO Ken Follet piece) was a pleasant surprise, not the best Marius, but very credible as actor and singer. All that being said, it is still worth seeing, and I never thought once about walking out.  ETA fixed typos, and I think Jackman lacked the gravitas to play the part. |
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Post by wal on Dec 31, 2012 14:09:35 GMT -5
Keisha Renee' @keishareneeMe and the Sexy saulikoskinenpictures playing around for the Camera! #bali #2013 #turnup instagr.am/p/T6XjkpFmnG/ 
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Post by bullsfan on Dec 31, 2012 14:10:31 GMT -5
I, too, have read and heard many people (critics, etc) who were much more critical of the movie than Adam was. It's about the money--need big stars to get initial financing and box office. HBO has a puff piece about "the making of...les Miz," that makes a big deal justifying and glorifying the casting. You either like Hooper's style of direction, or you don't. Some critics don't like the music at all--no matter who sings it-- I question their sanity, but... Don't think it was sour grapes on Adam's part at all. Musicals are part PF his wheelhouse, and I bet he knows many great singers who can act, but aren't "box office" famous, per se. I think Hugh Jackman and Russell Crowe did not benefit from the loss of physicality (from Hooper's director-style) that is part of some of their other But critics are paid to be critical. I just hate when one artist disses another so publically. This just feels like something Clay Aiken would say. And I hate that :( |
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Post by melliemom on Dec 31, 2012 14:10:52 GMT -5
[/color][/color] Going back to your post holst... I was surprised that he would post such a public statement especially as he is so supportive and positive...wondering why ?[/quote] It is very surprising, as he usually looks for the best in EVERYONE. I wonder if he or someone in his circle auditioned for this. He is such a nice person, and so new to the business. I just don't want to see him burn any potential bridges.[/quote] Adam comes from the musical stage.. Even though Hugh Jackman is a Broadway singer/dancer ,I don't feel he was right for this part He was unable to hold the notes .. Everything he sang was cut off, staccato.. I truly believe Adam was hurt on some level,because Hollywood would not give these parts to unknown great singers,rather than famous stars.. The bottom line seems to be all about money ,not talent and not quality. I know I hurt for the composers... |
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Post by wal on Dec 31, 2012 14:11:12 GMT -5
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Post by Q3 on Dec 31, 2012 14:11:13 GMT -5
I know nothing except that without even seeing Les Mis (just the trailers) I was thinking the same thing that Adam expressed. I "get" that a new technique was used and, I guess, when you film a show that has been out for so long that you have to attempt to do it differently. But, I like good singing and do not like acting singing. Of course the film industry is going to say the production is great, I'd love to hear what Broadway is saying. Something tells me it must be close to what Adam expressed. Good for him. And, if you don't agree with him, good for you. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. We don't all have to think the same. It's just music and an opinion given re the entertainment industry. Couldn't get more subjective then that. Even the reviewers who gave this film great reviews are critical of the singing. For example, the Wall Street Journal's Joe Morgenstern review was rated 90 by Metacritic (the top rated review) included this: What's missing from the screen version as a whole is the kind of virtuoso singing that's still a part of first-rate stage musicals, and an indispensable part. Link: online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324660404578198160499785442.htmlAdam is not alone in his opinion -- but it is unusual for an artist/singer to comment so frankly and that makes it newsworthy. |
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Post by Sagittarius on Dec 31, 2012 14:13:03 GMT -5
[/color][/color] Going back to your post holst... I was surprised that he would post such a public statement especially as he is so supportive and positive...wondering why ?[/quote] It is very surprising, as he usually looks for the best in EVERYONE. I wonder if he or someone in his circle auditioned for this. He is such a nice person, and so new to the business. I just don't want to see him burn any potential bridges.[/quote][/color] This... IMO Adam has been getting great press since the Diva performance and the Les Mis comments are going to bring out the haters again. Still wonder why :dunno: |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 14:15:54 GMT -5
Wow, the show is over and photos coming in...I'll have to catch up. Sometimes I wish Adam's press was about his appearances all over the world. I agree that Adam speaks his mind and I applaud him for that. But not one mention that he was in Bali performing... :-/ Or that he has a huge schedule of international appearances. But the media runs on fodder, so no surprise this is going viral. I'm torn about this one. Kinda wish he had left Les Mis alone right now. Que sera... So, as Adam changes the subject...how was the show??? Any clues where I should start reading?? Thanks! Seriously, it is this way for EVERY celebrity. Lady Gaga has been on a worldwide tour and doing fabulous, but you didn't hear a thing about her in the press until she gained a few pounds. Madonna is on the most successful tour of the year and when is she in the press? When she's late, when she tells off the audience or she says something controversial. In the same way that artists don't get news cycles for doing their own music, they get news cycles for doing covers. It's just how it works. Bad, good or indifferent. Back in the Idol days Brian Mansfield said, "Controversy sells." It's true. The "Les Mis" peeps are probably loving this as well. It will keep people talking about the film long after opening weekend and brings the actor/singer vs. singer/actor debate to the fore. I'm sure many professional singers and theater performers will have a lot of thoughts on the issue. I agree with mys*&@^#r. I'll worry when they don't want to talk about him. OK..I'm easy  .. Since this was SUCH an important topic for Adam, I would have enjoyed hearing his thoughts on a twitlonger. More cohesive, because we know how articulate and passionate Adam is. He still would have gotten the press but to me twitter tore up his stream of thought up a bit. It felt ragged. Adam will get a lot of discussion and publicity. I agree Les Mis ought to pay Adam for the PR.. :4OMG: And I hear Bali calling me.... |
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Post by abriton on Dec 31, 2012 14:16:38 GMT -5
I know nothing except that without even seeing Les Mis (just the trailers) I was thinking the same thing that Adam expressed. I "get" that a new technique was used and, I guess, when you film a show that has been out for so long that you have to attempt to do it differently. But, I like good singing and do not like acting singing. Of course the film industry is going to say the production is great, I'd love to hear what Broadway is saying. Something tells me it must be close to what Adam expressed. Good for him. And, if you don't agree with him, good for you. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. We don't all have to think the same. It's just music and an opinion given re the entertainment industry. Couldn't get more subjective then that. Even the reviewers who gave this film great reviews are critical of the singing. For example, the Wall Street Journal's Joe Morgenstern review was rated 90 by Metacritic (the top rated review) included this: What's missing from the screen version as a whole is the kind of virtuoso singing that's still a part of first-rate stage musicals, and an indispensable part. Link: online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324660404578198160499785442.htmlAdam is not alone in his opinion -- but it is unusual for an artist/singer to comment so frankly and that makes it newsworthy. Great Post Q3. I read today that a film of Jesus Christ Superstar is in the works. It would be very brave of them to cast Adam in the role of Judas which he has said he wants to play. When the public at large hear his voice, we know it would be a hit. |
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.. Since this was SUCH an important topic for Adam, I would have enjoyed hearing his thoughts on a twitlonger. More cohesive, because we know how articulate and passionate Adam is. He still would have gotten the press but to me twitter tore up his stream of thought up a bit. It felt ragged.