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Post by bullsfan on Jan 14, 2013 14:55:43 GMT -5
[/IMG] Or personal choice of his? (Who knows, everything's possible...) [/quote] I think it is two things: 1. Lack of commercial success for Trespassing. Adam said early on (spring 2012) when asked about a tour they would "wait and see how the album did first" before any plans were made 2. The label (and Adam) want new material out ASAP Eta---I do totally expect that he will play a few one-offs,at least, this summer. Also, "lack of commercial success for Trespassing" does not mean that he wouldn't be able to sell tickets. Because, obviously, he still could. I think it was a decision made with the big picture in mind---without hit songs to bring in a new audience, would a tour be worth the time, money, and energy that it takes to pull it off? I think that was the consideration. Because I have no doubt that he would be doing some kind of tour had Trespassing given him 2 or 3 radio hits.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2013 14:58:52 GMT -5
[/IMG] Or personal choice of his? (Who knows, everything's possible...) [/quote] No. Commercial success of Trespassing has little to do with a tour, really, it doesn't! There are artists with way less commercial success than Adam who are touring. If it did, he would not have been able to fill Winstar, Costa Mesa, Wilkes Barre, or Phoenix venues. He can do venues of 2-4K easily. (WB and CM were even larger, 6,000+) I think he and RCA want to get right back into the studio to record album #3. He has already filled good mid-sized venues in the US. Selling seats is not a problem. All my joking aside about Canada and N. Dakota, I do think he will do one offs. Probably some summer shows at fairs & a few casinos. He will want his band to be able to make money.
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Post by mszue on Jan 14, 2013 15:10:18 GMT -5
I know. I get that. But planes fly both ways... Oh well...it is just a dream anyway... Interestingly enough, I've learned that they don't in Texas either. My relatives in the East think nothing of us flying 1500 miles to see them for all matter of occasions, but unfortunately it takes a funeral to get them on a plane flying west. Don't really get it. I remember once I was at a conference in DC and hit it off with one of the other women. At the end I said, If you're ever down my way, look me up. The usual ... But she did a double take and said, "I can't imagine that I would EVER be down your way." It was then that I learned the meaning of the phrase flyover country. :-/ I hear you junie... when I was an English undergrad, my first "communication' class was titled "Rhetoric of Canadian Identity" and in the first class, we discussed some of the 'identities' we held as Canadians and one of the first she brought up was that we internalized those weather maps shown on all the US TV cable stations that had Canada as one large grey area that all the "winds & storms from the North" came. Cold front country!! lol
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Post by Albiku on Jan 14, 2013 15:23:55 GMT -5
[/IMG] Or personal choice of his? (Who knows, everything's possible...) [/quote] No. Commercial success of Trespassing has little to do with a tour, really, it doesn't! There are artists with way less commercial success than Adam who are touring. If it did, he would not have been able to fill Winstar, Costa Mesa, Wilkes Barre, or Phoenix venues. He can do venues of 2-4K easily. (WB and CM were even larger, 6,000+) I think he and RCA want to get right back into the studio to record album #3. He has already filled good mid-sized venues in the US. Selling seats is not a problem. All my joking aside about Canada and N. Dakota, I do think he will do one offs. Probably some summer shows at fairs & a few casinos. He will want his band to be able to make money. [/quote] That makes sense, of course. I'm just trying to understand why he didn't tour. Of course, the argument of wanting to release Album#3 as soon as possible makes a lot of sense too.
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Post by butterknife on Jan 14, 2013 15:24:30 GMT -5
OMG! Energy Music Radio out of the UK is playing a lot of Adam Lambert tracks! I requested Runnin' and they played it! Never thought I'd hear it on radio. So psyched!!!!!!
(Proof that you can find anything on Google! I typed in "welcome goat" hoping to find an appropriate image to welcome you to the board, nannygoat, and this was under Google Images.) :4OMG: Hope you don't mind I borrow your goat, murly ;D WELCOME TO ATOP, nannygoat
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Post by thelambertluvva on Jan 14, 2013 15:26:43 GMT -5
[/IMG] Or personal choice of his? (Who knows, everything's possible...) [/quote] No. Commercial success of Trespassing has little to do with a tour, really, it doesn't! There are artists with way less commercial success than Adam who are touring. If it did, he would not have been able to fill Winstar, Costa Mesa, Wilkes Barre, or Phoenix venues. He can do venues of 2-4K easily. (WB and CM were even larger, 6,000+) I think he and RCA want to get right back into the studio to record album #3. He has already filled good mid-sized venues in the US. Selling seats is not a problem. All my joking aside about Canada and N. Dakota, I do think he will do one offs. Probably some summer shows at fairs & a few casinos. He will want his band to be able to make money. [/quote] Yes, seems commercial success has nothing to do with it. Kris Allen is touring right now and he sold way less than Adam. Of course his venues are smaller, but still. ETA: Just remembered that Kris doesn't have a record label so he isn't in any hurry to release his third album. That's probably why he is able to tour.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2013 15:35:51 GMT -5
[/IMG] Or personal choice of his? (Who knows, everything's possible...) [/quote] I think it is two things: 1. Lack of commercial success for Trespassing. Adam said early on (spring 2012) when asked about a tour they would "wait and see how the album did first" before any plans were made 2. The label (and Adam) want new material out ASAP Eta---I do totally expect that he will play a few one-offs,at least, this summer. Also, "lack of commercial success for Trespassing" does not mean that he wouldn't be able to sell tickets. Because, obviously, he still could. I think it was a decision made with the big picture in mind---without hit songs to bring in a new audience, would a tour be worth the time, money, and energy that it takes to pull it off? I think that was the consideration. Because I have no doubt that he would be doing some kind of tour had Trespassing given him 2 or 3 radio hits. [/quote] How does Adam and/or RCA know that he can still sell tickets on the same scale as he did in 2010 if the album isn't as commercially successful as the last album? FYE was on the Billboard 200 up until the very end of the GNT. Whereas Trespassing has been off the BB200 since last summer. Adam said at the beginning of the era that a tour would depend on how the album did, I assume he meant commercially. Yes, he could tour but could he tour in the same size venues he did for GNT? I'm a fan and I want him to tour but even I can't say for sure if he has the audience to do a tour on the same scale as GNT. Perhaps he'd rather go back into the studio to work on his 3rd album than 1) book a tour in venues that he can't fill or 2) have to downsize to smaller venues than he was performing in just two years ago. Better, IMO, to wait until he knows he has the audience based on sales and/or radio hits. ETA: Adam isn't a bar performer. He can't tour like Kris is and play hole in the wall clubs where he stands in front of a mic and strums and guitar. Adam needs a stage and to do the kind of show he wants he needs venues that seat at least 1000 people.
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Post by QueeenAl on Jan 14, 2013 15:42:04 GMT -5
OT: That was the most touching and intelligent speech I heard in a long, long time. Especially what she said about her mom made me cry like a baby. Jodie Foster is so intelligent, warmhearted and wellspoken - I really love her! I thought it was an exaggeration when people said they where moved to tears .... silly me ... crying ETA: On a lighter note: She talks fast!!! Holy fuck!!!!
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Post by bullsfan on Jan 14, 2013 15:44:28 GMT -5
No. Commercial success of Trespassing has little to do with a tour, really, it doesn't! There are artists with way less commercial success than Adam who are touring. If it did, he would not have been able to fill Winstar, Costa Mesa, Wilkes Barre, or Phoenix venues. He can do venues of 2-4K easily. (WB and CM were even larger, 6,000+) I think he and RCA want to get right back into the studio to record album #3. He has already filled good mid-sized venues in the US. Selling seats is not a problem. All my joking aside about Canada and N. Dakota, I do think he will do one offs. Probably some summer shows at fairs & a few casinos. He will want his band to be able to make money. Yes, seems commercial success has nothing to do with it. Kris Allen is touring right now and he sold way less than Adam. Of course his venues are smaller, but still. ETA: Just remembered that Kris doesn't have a record label so he isn't in any hurry to release his third album. That's probably why he is able to tour. Exactly. Also, Adam is in a unique situation compared to a lot of other artists who may be touring right now without that big commercial success behind them. There is an urgency. His label, thankfully, seems to see him as an artist on the cusp. He hasn't broken through yet, but has so much potential, I think everyone is just waiting for it to happen. So for Adam they need to weigh the benefits he would see touring (behind an album that has no radio hits and is not exactly selling) with those that he could potentially get from releasing a new album. It is all about what is going to potentially give him the greatest long-term gain since expanding his fanbase and getting that hit are so important. And while he could still sell-out venues, I don't think there is any indication that he would be able to replicate the success of GNT. Album sales, while not everything, do tell you something.
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Post by belle on Jan 14, 2013 16:00:35 GMT -5
energy150778 @dannecazette from 9pm For the first time in the UK we will be airing on #energymusicradio #adamlambert underneath and out laws of love. The "9pm" is now.... www.energymusicradio.co.uk/
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