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Post by nica575 on Feb 3, 2013 11:30:35 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 11:38:23 GMT -5
Those leather pants are A+++ (especially on Adam  ) But there are some on the same site that are  Think poofy, elastic waist, leather mom jeans. I'll have to go grab the photo. It's lulz!! I had forgotten about the VIP pricing for Prince, mys*&@^#r! That was very clever and upfront of him – everyone could afford to go at $25 but if you want the killer seats, you will pay some killer prices and IMO, that's fine, especially if the artist is getting that money and not some random broker who is getting backdoor deals from Ticketmaster. Good morning. Does anyone know how Prince's tour did? Was it mostly sold out and considered a successful tour? Yes! Completely sold out and in the top 5 shows I have ever seen! UNFUCKINBELIEVABLE!!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 11:42:27 GMT -5
what about Frank Ocean? I don't understand the reference. The reference was for Frank Ocean being up for about 6 Grammys and he's a new singer... nothing to do with living legend part.. my mind is not running well this morning ,I actually slept past 4:00 am .. shock to the body.LOl well Frank Ocean is in an entirely different genre of music than Adam and perhaps the Grammy committee felt he made a big impact within his genre and within music in general? I haven't heard his album so I can't speak on the quality or depth of it but I tend to not think in terms of fairness/unfairness, deserved/undeserved when it comes to these award nominations/wins because when you degrade/disregard one artist for receiving these accolades you open up your own favorite for the same type of criticism should they receive recognition in the future. It's like when a fan base says the Grammys are worthless, mean nothing or are rigged because their favorite didn't get nominated ...how are they going to celebrate if/when their favorite gets nominated for one? I'm happy Adam got a nomination in 2010 and I'd be happy if he got another nomination in the future, however when other artists receive nominations and Adam doesn't, that in now way reflects upon Adam, his talent or his career. IMO ETA to those who say "they don't get" Frank Ocean's album I have to ask, are you the demographic his music is aimed at? Are you rap/urban fans? I don't get Florence and the Machine because their music isn't the type of music I listen to....that doesn't mean their music isn't worthy or deserving of the MANY accolades it has received. As for Trespassing being transformative, it received some really good reviews but nothing earth shatteringly great (Rolling Stone gave it a B) and it has a lower metacritic score than FYE....reviews IMO are not what make an album transformative. Adele's 21 is transformative. Kelly Clarkson's Breakaway is transformative. It takes on a life of its own and moves beyond it's genre and into the lexicon of great albums which are hailed for many years to come as one of the best when discussing that artists body of work. |
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Post by nica575 on Feb 3, 2013 11:43:35 GMT -5
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Post by 4EverAdam on Feb 3, 2013 11:58:29 GMT -5
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Post by melliemom on Feb 3, 2013 11:58:43 GMT -5
well Frank Ocean is in an entirely different genre of music than Adam and perhaps the Grammy committee felt he made a big impact within his genre and within music in general? I haven't heard his album so I can't speak on the quality or depth of it but I tend to not think in terms of fairness/unfairness, deserved/undeserved when it comes to these award nominations/wins because when you degrade/disregard one artist for receiving these accolades you open up your own favorite for the same type of criticism should they receive recognition in the future. It's like when a fan base says the Grammys are worthless, mean nothing or are rigged because their favorite didn't get nominated ...how are they going to celebrate if/when their favorite gets nominated for one? I'm happy Adam got a nomination in 2010 and I'd be happy if he got another nomination in the future, however when other artists receive nominations and Adam doesn't, that in now way reflects upon Adam, his talent or his career. IMO ETA to those who say "they don't get" Frank Ocean's album I have to ask, are you the demographic his music is aimed at? Are you rap/urban fans? I don't get Florence and the Machine because their music isn't the type of music I listen to....that doesn't mean their music isn't worthy or deserving of the MANY accolades it has received. As for Trespassing being transformative, it received some really good reviews but nothing earth shatteringly great (Rolling Stone gave it a B) and it has a lower metacritic score than FYE....reviews IMO are not what make an album transformative. Adele's 21 is transformative. Kelly Clarkson's Breakaway is transformative. It takes on a life of its own and moves beyond it's genre and into the lexicon of great albums which are hailed for many years to come as one of the best when discussing that artists body of work. Music is highly subjective... I get that .IMHO Trespassing has a number of very Transformative songs,including,Nirvana and especially Underneath.. to me a bit like a 'change is going to come' There are others as well like Runnin... but opinions are just that opinions,as said many times,& we all have them. |
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Post by adamrocks on Feb 3, 2013 12:04:38 GMT -5
Thanks for the download! I would love mp3's for Lets Dance and TP also! And thanks to those who gave me information about Prince's concert tour. I wish I could have seen him! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 12:09:12 GMT -5
well Frank Ocean is in an entirely different genre of music than Adam and perhaps the Grammy committee felt he made a big impact within his genre and within music in general? I haven't heard his album so I can't speak on the quality or depth of it but I tend to not think in terms of fairness/unfairness, deserved/undeserved when it comes to these award nominations/wins because when you degrade/disregard one artist for receiving these accolades you open up your own favorite for the same type of criticism should they receive recognition in the future. It's like when a fan base says the Grammys are worthless, mean nothing or are rigged because their favorite didn't get nominated ...how are they going to celebrate if/when their favorite gets nominated for one? I'm happy Adam got a nomination in 2010 and I'd be happy if he got another nomination in the future, however when other artists receive nominations and Adam doesn't, that in now way reflects upon Adam, his talent or his career. IMO ETA to those who say "they don't get" Frank Ocean's album I have to ask, are you the demographic his music is aimed at? Are you rap/urban fans? I don't get Florence and the Machine because their music isn't the type of music I listen to....that doesn't mean their music isn't worthy or deserving of the MANY accolades it has received. As for Trespassing being transformative, it received some really good reviews but nothing earth shatteringly great (Rolling Stone gave it a B) and it has a lower metacritic score than FYE....reviews IMO are not what make an album transformative. Adele's 21 is transformative. Kelly Clarkson's Breakaway is transformative. It takes on a life of its own and moves beyond it's genre and into the lexicon of great albums which are hailed for many years to come as one of the best when discussing that artists body of work. Music is highly subjective... I get that .IMHO Trespassing has a number of very Transformative songs,including,Nirvana and especially Underneath.. to me a bit like a 'change is going to come' There are others as well like Runnin... but opinions are just that opinions,as said many times,& we all have them. I agree music is subjective and having a high quality song, which I believe Trespassing has many, doesn't, IMO, make the songs/album transformative. Transformative means it changes the direction of the artists' career, raises it up to a higher status than before. Adam isn't at a higher status than he was with FYE, if anything he's not as high up as before because IMO, BTIKM and NCOE were both higher quality singles than IIHY and WWFM yet neither received radio play. I think the one truly transformative song on Trespassing is Outlaws of Love and that is because it speaks to a generations/communities struggle with equality. It is moving, honest and thought provoking. Personally I'd rather look at Adam's career like an outsider would, rather than a fan. As a fan I want to believe he's the most amazing, splendiforuous thing to ever happen to music....however, if I look at his career from an outsider's perspective, he's done respectably well, he's moderately successful and he clearly has a lot of potential to grow and gain both in popularity and success but he's got a long way to go. As a fan I hope he gets there....but I won't cry about it if he doesn't. Stanning Adam (or any artist) should be about having fun and I can't worry or stress about the things I can't control. |
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Post by lynne on Feb 3, 2013 12:10:14 GMT -5
LOL!!! ITA!! I most definitely think it was transformative. It is an excellent piece of work - certainly as quality as most of those mentioned. There were simply bad calls on the marketing end probably compounded by a lot of factors (political, international, etc.) and they have radio stonewalling for whatever reason. That has nothing to do with the quality of the work. It should have been recognized. It wasn't, so it will be part of his cumulative cred. Ben Affleck is proving right now that people often rally around an artist thatis unjustly snubbed because of superficial or political reasons. My gut is this will eventually happen to Adam too. The more he does his thing, the more people will catch on and think, like those from the gala, "Holy crap! He is really good, why haven't I heard more from him?" The pop flavors of the week will come and go, but talent and determination such as his won't be denied indefinitely. I tend to agree with this. he just needs to keep doing his thing, as prominently as he can. |
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Post by SusieFierce on Feb 3, 2013 12:24:15 GMT -5
well Frank Ocean is in an entirely different genre of music than Adam and perhaps the Grammy committee felt he made a big impact within his genre and within music in general? I haven't heard his album so I can't speak on the quality or depth of it but I tend to not think in terms of fairness/unfairness, deserved/undeserved when it comes to these award nominations/wins because when you degrade/disregard one artist for receiving these accolades you open up your own favorite for the same type of criticism should they receive recognition in the future. It's like when a fan base says the Grammys are worthless, mean nothing or are rigged because their favorite didn't get nominated ...how are they going to celebrate if/when their favorite gets nominated for one? I'm happy Adam got a nomination in 2010 and I'd be happy if he got another nomination in the future, however when other artists receive nominations and Adam doesn't, that in now way reflects upon Adam, his talent or his career. IMO ETA to those who say "they don't get" Frank Ocean's album I have to ask, are you the demographic his music is aimed at? Are you rap/urban fans? I don't get Florence and the Machine because their music isn't the type of music I listen to....that doesn't mean their music isn't worthy or deserving of the MANY accolades it has received. As for Trespassing being transformative, it received some really good reviews but nothing earth shatteringly great (Rolling Stone gave it a B) and it has a lower metacritic score than FYE....reviews IMO are not what make an album transformative. Adele's 21 is transformative. Kelly Clarkson's Breakaway is transformative. It takes on a life of its own and moves beyond it's genre and into the lexicon of great albums which are hailed for many years to come as one of the best when discussing that artists body of work. LOL, so now people can't judge quality of a work because their preference isn't the genre? Right. So glad I'm not married to any one genre. Man, makes a critic's job VERY difficult. I'd say four stars from RS and a high 80s from Billboard are higher than a B because the incidences of five stars are very rare, you can't put it on a traditional scale. You need to go by percentile. Also, the review 5/10 stars that most impacted his metacritic score was from a random blog and full of the reviewer's preconceived notions about what Adam SHOULD be doing (rock) and the work wasn't judged on its own merits at all. In further discussion with the critic, he continually defended his bad review by comparing Adam to Elton, Freddie, Madonna and MJ and saying "Trespassing" wasn't "Thriller," so therefore it didn't rate. OIC, it isn't the same as one of the biggest albums in history, so not worthy of a decent score? And Adam wasn't ever being compared to his contemporaries but legends (as usual). His defense was rife with prejudice and ludicrous examples. One I particularly loved was when he said, "Tower of Babel falling down again" was a superficial lyric, but then trying to make a different point elsewhere Adam should have done something like "Wanna Be Startin' Something." Ookay, got it. Tower of Babel as a reference to language is lame but "You're a vegetable ... " is what he should aspire too? Mmmkay. |
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