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Post by adamrocks on Mar 19, 2013 14:17:09 GMT -5
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Post by evamaria on Mar 19, 2013 14:17:17 GMT -5
So, discontinuing bringing culture to St. Petersburg is now a good thing because the ACLU is for it? What argument is that? In this case the ACLU is obviously also unhappy that Adam is in St.P. right now, because that is continuing the dialogue. Bad, Bad.... The ACLU is serving their own interests of looking good towards the LGBT community in the US, rather than serving the interests of the population they are actually claiming to help, in this case, the LGBT community in St. Petersburg, imo. This is the problem with such organizations that generally have good intention, there is an element of activist thinking that can take over and at times backfire. We have seen such effects with Glaad and other organizations too. Not all is good and helpful that is intended well. Anyhow, I just wanted to give a different perspective for those who really plan to write such letters to their local city official, because I believe that the recommendation on page 1 is not a good one. Everybody gets to make their own mind on this. Both sides have been explained, so I am done with this. I have to say that I agree with you on this issue. I realize that severing "sister ties" can be viewed as making a statement in support of the Russian LGBT community, but I wonder whether it might have unintended consequences. For example, in late 2012, Russia passed legislation to ban all adoptions by U.S. citizens in retaliation for the Magnitsky Act, a law that was passed last year which bars Russian citizens accused of violating human rights from traveling to the United States and from owning real estate or other assets here. In taking issue with this U.S. law, the Russians wound up hurting 2 groups of innocent people: their own orphaned children and Americans who wanted to adopt them.
To read more: www.nytimes.com/2012/12/28/world/europe/putin-to-sign-ban-on-us-adoptions-of-russian-children.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Now, I'm not saying that the Russians would view ending city sisterhood in the same light as the Magnitsky Act, but I wonder whether a potential response from them might result in hurting more innocent people.
And let's be honest, the U.S.'s hands are not clean when it comes to LGBT equality. Our country has come a long way, especially in the last 5 years. According to recent studies, nearly three-fourths of U.S. adults are now accepting of homosexuality and just over half are accepting of gay marriage. But clearly bigotry does still exist among a notable portion of the population in this country.
Under the circumstances, I would hope that we could come up with a more constructive way to address this issue. It seems to me that severing connections results in missed opportunities to educate and open minds.
Opening minds -- kind of what Adam is doing by going to Russia. 
I don't know the answer to this. Severing connections probably hurts children available for adoption more than it hurts anyone else, so that if I were to adopt a child from Russia, I'd lie through my teeth until that child was safely home. In the annals of present-day European bigotry, we probably have Russia<Finland<UK. May Adam be safe. Ditto or everyone else.
Q3 reminder -- we are not discussion Russian adoption policies. Thanks.
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Post by wal on Mar 19, 2013 14:18:03 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2013 14:20:07 GMT -5
I wouldn't remember..what does it mean anyway? This na zdorovye thing isn't new. He's said it before at Maxidrom. It's stuck with me ever since and I always say it xD Just popping in to throw out a guess about " Na zdorovye!. As a musical comedy freak, I always remember the story of the first time his parents realized he could sing - he was in a production of Fiddler on the Roof and he played the Russian soldier who gets up on a table in the middle of the song "Le Chaim" and gets everyone's attention with a long, high note. Then he sings:
Zachava zdarovia
Heaven bless you both nazdrovia
To your health and may we live together in peace
I'll bet that's why he remembers it - it's the Russian equivalent of "To Life." (also I think he spelled it wrong!)
It seems that this phrase means different things, depending on the language you're using. According to this article, in Russian "na zdorovie" isn't a toast, but it means "you're welcome" or "enjoy it". However, in Polish "Na zdrowie" is a toast, meaning "to your health".
suite101.com/article/na-zdorovie-the-truth-about-russian-toasts-and-drinking-customs-a313468
My family is Polish and my grandparents always used this toast on birthdays. Never realized that it meant something else in Russian. Not sure what Adam was trying to say, but "enjoy it" would be appropriate at one of his concerts. Who doesn't have a good time at a Glamily show?
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Post by wal on Mar 19, 2013 14:23:58 GMT -5
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Post by Q3 on Mar 19, 2013 14:25:24 GMT -5
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Post by adamrocks on Mar 19, 2013 14:30:10 GMT -5
Helsinki twitter. They are all so excited! I'm so happy for all the Atopians who are going to be there!!  elli @lakupala also I'M SEEING ADAM LAMBERT ON FRIDAY i don't think i'm ready for all that awesome Blackberry @68Blackberry Lol! My feed is packing... And everybody is so excited.
Andrea @allthatispink I bought an external powerpack for my Iphone today, it's supposed to make the battery last twice as long. Will be needed in Helsinki 
TaaTeli @Taateli1 How I am supposed to be able to sleep tonight? Adam Adam Adam...!
Jasmin @imjasuuw 3 _fucking_ days left!!!!!!!!!!!!! omfg I'm so excited♥♥
CatBert @roxnwaves @adamlambert we're going crazy here in Finland cause the looong wait is over in just a couple of days!!! #WAGHelsinki
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2013 14:30:38 GMT -5
Ohhh, he is dancing here a little before 2:00ish:))) His own dorky version of head banging, so cute:) And he is so very happy!!! These few seconds are priceless! MA in Kiev via Инна Сокол |
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Post by durberville on Mar 19, 2013 14:34:11 GMT -5
Thanks, Albiku!
Has this been posted? Only has 6 views, so probably not? Adam Lambert - Trespassing ( Kiev, 18.03.2013 )
sincereooolya
wow!! That seems like an enormous crowd!! Oh...and look at Rick's pants at the end end of the video...haha! guess it's just sweat, but....haha! Speaking of pants. Nobody looks better in leather pants than Adam - from the front - what the hell is goin' on in the rear, and why can't they figure out how to tailor them to avoid the droopy ass?! He looks like an anorexic elephant from the back.  |
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Post by adamrocks on Mar 19, 2013 14:49:27 GMT -5
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