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Post by adamrocks on Mar 19, 2013 14:01:17 GMT -5
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Post by crispy on Mar 19, 2013 14:01:15 GMT -5
I wouldn't remember..what does it mean anyway? This na zdorovye thing isn't new. He's said it before at Maxidrom. It's stuck with me ever since and I always say it xD Just popping in to throw out a guess about " Na zdorovye!. As a musical comedy freak, I always remember the story of the first time his parents realized he could sing - he was in a production of Fiddler on the Roof and he played the Russian soldier who gets up on a table in the middle of the song "Le Chaim" and gets everyone's attention with a long, high note. Then he sings:
Zachava zdarovia Heaven bless you both nazdrovia To your health and may we live together in peace
I'll bet that's why he remembers it - it's the Russian equivalent of "To Life." (also I think he spelled it wrong!)
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Post by wal on Mar 19, 2013 14:03:59 GMT -5
Thank you so much! (for the roses) adam lambert - never close our eyes @ kiev, 18.03.2013 By sonolontano
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2013 14:06:03 GMT -5
So, discontinuing bringing culture to St. Petersburg is now a good thing because the ACLU is for it? What argument is that? In this case the ACLU is obviously also unhappy that Adam is in St.P. right now, because that is continuing the dialogue. Bad, Bad.... The ACLU is serving their own interests of looking good towards the LGBT community in the US, rather than serving the interests of the population they are actually claiming to help, in this case, the LGBT community in St. Petersburg, imo. This is the problem with such organizations that generally have good intention, there is an element of activist thinking that can take over and at times backfire. We have seen such effects with Glaad and other organizations too. Not all is good and helpful that is intended well. Anyhow, I just wanted to give a different perspective for those who really plan to write such letters to their local city official, because I believe that the recommendation on page 1 is not a good one. Everybody gets to make their own mind on this. Both sides have been explained, so I am done with this. I have to say that I agree with you on this issue. I realize that severing "sister ties" can be viewed as making a statement in support of the Russian LGBT community, but I wonder whether it might have unintended consequences. For example, in late 2012, Russia passed legislation to ban all adoptions by U.S. citizens in retaliation for the Magnitsky Act, a law that was passed last year which bars Russian citizens accused of violating human rights from traveling to the United States and from owning real estate or other assets here. In taking issue with this U.S. law, the Russians wound up hurting 2 groups of innocent people: their own orphaned children and Americans who wanted to adopt them.
To read more: www.nytimes.com/2012/12/28/world/europe/putin-to-sign-ban-on-us-adoptions-of-russian-children.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Now, I'm not saying that the Russians would view ending city sisterhood in the same light as the Magnitsky Act, but I wonder whether a potential response from them might result in hurting more innocent people.
And let's be honest, the U.S.'s hands are not clean when it comes to LGBT equality. Our country has come a long way, especially in the last 5 years. According to recent studies, nearly three-fourths of U.S. adults are now accepting of homosexuality and just over half are accepting of gay marriage. But clearly bigotry does still exist among a notable portion of the population in this country.
Under the circumstances, I would hope that we could come up with a more constructive way to address this issue. It seems to me that severing connections results in missed opportunities to educate and open minds.
Opening minds -- kind of what Adam is doing by going to Russia.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2013 14:06:37 GMT -5
Vodka (song)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Vodka" was the song that represented Malta at Eurovision Song Contest 2008, in Belgrade, Serbia. It was sung by Gozitan singer Morena.[1] The authors of the song, Gerard James Borg (lyrics) and Philip Vella (music) have had songs in Eurovision five times (2000, 2002, "Vodka" won the Malta Song for Europe 2008 with total 78 points (49 votes from the jury and 16,979 from the public).[3] The jury gave the same (not maximal) number of points to two other songs, but public sympathies were on the side of "Vodka" to beat the runner-up by a wide margin.[4] The song speaks of a spy in Gorky Park in Moscow, "in a danger zone" where everywhere is "pitch dark". She is being chased because she deciphered the code which everyone wants so badly, and the word is "Vodka".[5] "Vodka" is sung in English, but starts with the word Na Zdarovye, a supposedly Russian word for "Cheers!" toast.[6] The song sparkled comments that it was crafted to attract Eastern Europeans' votes, but the authors denied the accusations saying that the song was not even intended to enter the competition.[2][4] The song title is a source of numerous puns in newspaper titles, but Morena in her interview says she does not like vodka and in fact rarely drinks alcohol.[7] In the Eurovision Song Contest 2008, "Vodka" was sung in the 2nd semifinal on Thursday 22 May 2008, where it received 38 points and placed 14th in the semifinal, with Malta failing to qualify for the final for the second time. The song will be succeeded as Maltese representative at the 2009 contest by Chiara with "What If We".
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Post by adamrocks on Mar 19, 2013 14:08:20 GMT -5
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Post by Q3 on Mar 19, 2013 14:09:44 GMT -5
Thanks, Albiku!
Has this been posted? Only has 6 views, so probably not? Adam Lambert - Trespassing ( Kiev, 18.03.2013 ) sincereooolya
This is new. Thanks!
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Post by 4Ms on Mar 19, 2013 14:11:31 GMT -5
Who is freaking out.. I was in St. Petersburg 7 years ago before this overt government anti- gay policy took place..I just think a twitter campaign with OOL is not a great idea for ME.As far as Adam singing it .. Great. People are sharing their feelings.. have you visited Russia?.. Most of the everyday people are lovely.. the govt. not so much.. the rise of the new Cossacks .. Hate with govt. approval.Just saying.. Things have changed because of the hate campaign against gays in this particular city by a particular mean spirited politician. freaking out might have been harsh.....but there is some def angst and worrying. Adam has a team of people and he's a smart man. I don't see him doing anything to cause controversy while he's there. He had no issues in Moscow so I'm sure he'll have no issues in St. Petersburg. I've never visited Russia, I wish I was in a position to travel like that...perhaps when I'm older, like many of the ladies on here, I can enjoy those luxuries. The stories about all the places you guys have been makes me hope that when I'm your age I've done even half as much As for the gov v. the people, the same can be said of the majority of countries IMO, including the U.S. HAHAHA! Nice little dig, you usually do that better, though.
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Post by wal on Mar 19, 2013 14:12:30 GMT -5
Awww, thanks crispy!! Where does this photo come from? I can not find the original source. Ashley is very bendy. lol.
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Post by Q3 on Mar 19, 2013 14:13:48 GMT -5
So, discontinuing bringing culture to St. Petersburg is now a good thing because the ACLU is for it? What argument is that? In this case the ACLU is obviously also unhappy that Adam is in St.P. right now, because that is continuing the dialogue. Bad, Bad.... The ACLU is serving their own interests of looking good towards the LGBT community in the US, rather than serving the interests of the population they are actually claiming to help, in this case, the LGBT community in St. Petersburg, imo. This is the problem with such organizations that generally have good intention, there is an element of activist thinking that can take over and at times backfire. We have seen such effects with Glaad and other organizations too. Not all is good and helpful that is intended well. Anyhow, I just wanted to give a different perspective for those who really plan to write such letters to their local city official, because I believe that the recommendation on page 1 is not a good one. Everybody gets to make their own mind on this. Both sides have been explained, so I am done with this. I have to say that I agree with you on this issue. I realize that severing "sister ties" can be viewed as making a statement in support of the Russian LGBT community, but I wonder whether it might have unintended consequences. For example, in late 2012, Russia passed legislation to ban all adoptions by U.S. citizens in retaliation for the Magnitsky Act, a law that was passed last year which bars Russian citizens accused of violating human rights from traveling to the United States and from owning real estate or other assets here. In taking issue with this U.S. law, the Russians wound up hurting 2 groups of innocent people: their own orphaned children and Americans who wanted to adopt them.
To read more: www.nytimes.com/2012/12/28/world/europe/putin-to-sign-ban-on-us-adoptions-of-russian-children.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Now, I'm not saying that the Russians would view ending city sisterhood in the same light as the Magnitsky Act, but I wonder whether a potential response from them might result in hurting more innocent people.
And let's be honest, the U.S.'s hands are not clean when it comes to LGBT equality. Our country has come a long way, especially in the last 5 years. According to recent studies, nearly three-fourths of U.S. adults are now accepting of homosexuality and just over half are accepting of gay marriage. But clearly bigotry does still exist among a notable portion of the population in this country.
Under the circumstances, I would hope that we could come up with a more constructive way to address this issue. It seems to me that severing connections results in missed opportunities to educate and open minds.
Opening minds -- kind of what Adam is doing by going to Russia.
The Russia discussing is getting very broad.
> Let's keep it related to Adam.
> I will delete posts that are about Russia's adoption policies or Russian-US relations.
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Also if you have already posted your opinion on this topic, move on. I am not closing the topic, but please do not repeat a point that you already made.
Thanks.
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