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Post by murly on Mar 28, 2013 12:04:18 GMT -5
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Post by nonchallance on Mar 28, 2013 12:08:57 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 12:12:27 GMT -5
Slooooowww day. Can I take this break to recognize one of the things that seemed taboo to discuss in the wake of WAG afterglow?-- Adam's recent popjustice twitter conversation. I put most of it in paragraph form: "I just wish there was a subgenre called "SINGING" where we could be ranked and judged based on some talent meter. Pop will always seem like a high school popularity contest and I will always b the drama geek-Singing his face off. Then there's the philosophy: dont hate the players-hate the game. So popularity contest it is. Let's all play the game. Game of thrones. I just want you to sign my yearbook. I want u all to sign my yearbook. So I feel validated." These are all things we have discussed. Many of us are frustrated when the mediocre talent gets the accolades and Adam gets overlooked-- it's unjust. But what is new here is that now we know he feels it too. He is often called angelic because he never has a bad thing to say about another artist or his level of success. Even his fans are jumped on if they express too much "angst". But if we always paint a rosy picture then it's an incomplete, less honest story--it's not how we are feeling all the time, and it is not how Adam is feeling all the time. Another thing we have discussed is how much Adam has conquered his self esteem issues. He has said previously that he struggles every day with it but because his self confidence is so evident on camera we sometimes forget that complete picture. I don't know about you but these words of his are still burning a hole in my heart: "so I can feel validated."..... I can not bring myself to be too concerned over this issue. At times, everyone feels undervalued and unappreciated. It is just a part of the human condition. I have much more sympathy, say, for starving children, single mothers, political prisoners, the wrongly imprisoned, people without healthcare... Let me count just a few of his blessings: Adam was brought up by an involved and loving family. He has a circle of long-time caring friends. He has that one special significant other. He is loved by millions all over the world. He is widely recognized for his unique talent. I've seen more precise statistics, but I'd think Adam is easily in the top 1% of income, not just for singers, but for every profession. He is one of the rare artists that can support himself doing what he loves to do and has been doing so since high school. By every measure I can think of, Adam is a huge success. If he has not achieved every goal he has set for himself, I say that is a good thing. The odds are that he has a long life ahead of himself. See, this is what gets me, and I apologize if I use your comment as a blown up example of others that have bothered me in the past. But, really, if we hold all our concerns in life up against your standards then there would be nothing to feel. You know, like my husbands illness will always be HeWhoCannot ameded by anothers and heck, he is not dead so why worry? My son is verbally bullied but others are physically bullied, so I should be happy? Adam has money so that's all that matters? Children are dying of starvation so, you know what? NOTHING should matter but that. But it is possible to care about them while caring about others. I am a little sick of my concerns over what I concider important things in Adam's life being trivialized. If we can worry for eternity about the swimming attire he chooses and whether he will shave today or not, or even if he will sell any records, then we can take a moment to worry about how he feels inside. That is far more important to me and him. And if that is called "angst", which has become a word I have come to loath because of it's overuse and accusational uses here, then I just don't think you guys have understood a thing Adam has been saying about having a dark and light side of equal importance, let alone his message of putting everything on the table or accepting others who are different. Am I the only one who has listened to him sing Underneath? I apologize again. This is not aimed at anyone specific, but good god. We waited a long time to discuss something as revealing about his core as it comes, and when we do it is dismissed. Let me have my opinions, state your, but don't try to talk me out of mine. There will never be a time when eveyone is in the same end of the pool. What is wrong with that? Everyone has their own feelings and opinions and they are allowed to state them in a civil way. I do not think that your opinions were being trivialized by others people's point of view! Remember that if you state your opinions, other people will, too.
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Post by revlisacat on Mar 28, 2013 12:18:04 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 12:22:35 GMT -5
Adam would not have put it out there if he did not mean for people to talk about it and think about it. He even gave us reading material. In his Twitter party, Adam recommended the book The Velvet Rage, by Alan Downs. This is a self-help book by a psychologist who says, "“Velvet rage is the deep and abiding anger that results from growing up in an environment when I learn that who I am as a gay person is unacceptable, perhaps even unlovable ... This anger pushes me at times to overcompensate and try to earn love and acceptance by being more, better, beautiful, more sexy – in short, to become something I believe will make me more acceptable and loved.”Good article on the book here. Again, this is not a book I found, it is a book Adam has recommended in Twitter parties, twice. www.queerty.com/do-you-have-velvet-rage-the-gay-brand-of-self-hatred-thats-holding-you-down-20110220/#ixzz2OklYtDbz |
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Post by nonchallance on Mar 28, 2013 12:28:01 GMT -5
I can not bring myself to be too concerned over this issue. At times, everyone feels undervalued and unappreciated. It is just a part of the human condition. I have much more sympathy, say, for starving children, single mothers, political prisoners, the wrongly imprisoned, people without healthcare... Let me count just a few of his blessings: Adam was brought up by an involved and loving family. He has a circle of long-time caring friends. He has that one special significant other. He is loved by millions all over the world. He is widely recognized for his unique talent. I've seen more precise statistics, but I'd think Adam is easily in the top 1% of income, not just for singers, but for every profession. He is one of the rare artists that can support himself doing what he loves to do and has been doing so since high school. By every measure I can think of, Adam is a huge success. If he has not achieved every goal he has set for himself, I say that is a good thing. The odds are that he has a long life ahead of himself. See, this is what gets me, and I apologize if I use your comment as a blown up example of others that have bothered me in the past. But, really, if we hold all our concerns in life up against your standards then there would be nothing to feel. You know, like my husbands illness will always be HeWhoCannot ameded by anothers and heck, he is not dead so why worry? My son is verbally bullied but others are physically bullied, so I should be happy? Adam has money so that's all that matters? Children are dying of starvation so, you know what? NOTHING should matter but that. But it is possible to care about them while caring about others. I am a little sick of my concerns over what I concider important things in Adam's life being trivialized. If we can worry for eternity about the swimming attire he chooses and whether he will shave today or not, or even if he will sell any records, then we can take a moment to worry about how he feels inside. That is far more important to me and him. And if that is called "angst", which has become a word I have come to loath because of it's overuse and accusational uses here, then I just don't think you guys have understood a thing Adam has been saying about having a dark and light side of equal importance, let alone his message of putting everything on the table or accepting others who are different. Am I the only one who has listened to him sing Underneath? I apologize again. This is not aimed at anyone specific, but good god. We waited a long time to discuss something as revealing about his core as it comes, and when we do it is dismissed. Let me have my opinions, state your, but don't try to talk me out of mine. There will never be a time when eveyone is in the same end of the pool. What is wrong with that? But life is only full when there is dark time and happy time. In my life is right now more happy time and I'm grateful for that but even now I have moments when I'm sad and tired and I feel used by other people. I think that Adam is happy right now but he has this moments to. We all have them. That's why we shouldn't look at Adam's life only from bright side or dark side. "Better Than I know Myself" video anyone? |
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Post by mehitabel on Mar 28, 2013 12:30:49 GMT -5
What I got from that sign my yearbook exchange was sarcasm. Guess we all interpret from our own life experiences. Makes for a lot of conversation, tho.
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Post by Kamar on Mar 28, 2013 12:34:29 GMT -5
Alright , feeling sick as hell , but I just *had* to comment on this . I was a weird kid from 3rd through 7th grade . No , I wasn't just a "weird kid" I had absolutely no friends , and I got bullied a lot from older kids in school , and ever younger kids in school bullied me because I was always , always alone in "break time" , all alone with no one around me . They called me fat (a fat cow) , weirdo , and all kinds of bad names that I don't even want to type . (and they did things too , but don't wanna type them ) All alone . Kids did not reach out for me and try to understand me . Nope . I think the main reason for all that were the family problems (that's a loooooooooooong story , but there were lots and lots of horrible problems) . With all the problems , all I wanted was to curl up and disappear . And with all the bullying and loneliness in school , it made the issue even harder . When Adam tweeted "reach out for the lonely kid sitting alone in school" it really hit home for me . I cried and cried and said "yes , it would have been different If the kids in school have been a little more friendly" When did it all change ?? When my parents divorced (thank god , really , right now I'm living with my Mother, the best Mother in the world  and we moved to another house , I moved to another school , (btw , in the old school , the school where I was bullied in , I had a golden prize for English and drawing in front of the whole school (and the whole city) , so I proved I was better than all of them bullies and , the year I moved was 2009 . Adam Lambert year . I became a fan in late 2009 and changed my whole look at life . Changed everything . Became a New person . So , yeah , I was a weird (very weird and lonely kid) , but with my beautiful Mother's support , and Adam , I changed . Now I'm a confident girl , I know I'm not a bad "weirdo" but a very good one  So , yeah , that's my story . Happy ending . But I'm sick now so all I need is a kleenex to clean up my runny nose . ETA : But btw , no matter how much you change , and how utterly AWESOME you become , if you were a "weird kid" (let's call it like that) That little bullied sad weird kid is always inside of you . You're always gonna feel weird , or different . Well at least for me , that's what I feel sometimes . |
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Post by wal on Mar 28, 2013 12:37:42 GMT -5
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