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Post by hermeticallysealed on Jun 4, 2013 19:47:03 GMT -5
Having been in the situation, I can say that sometimes saying "Fuck off" is not only cathartic, it's what it takes to get the person to back off. Is it polite and politic? Of course not, but then again, not everything in life is nice and sunshine and rainbows, or can be solved that way.
When I finally did it, not only did it feel good, but for the first time I actually felt that I could stand up and be in control of my own life. I wasn't being passive and letting them direct things, I was.
In an ideal world, being polite, and pc, and oh so inoffensive would help to bring an end to harassment. But it is not an ideal world. I can say from personal experience, it does not work in many instances. In fact, it often made things worse. Sometimes, the only way to get through to these people is to make a firm stand.
I can only speak of my experiences, and those of people I know, however.
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Post by thelambertluvva on Jun 4, 2013 19:49:47 GMT -5
I just watched Titanium again and a new thought came into my head. Well, new for me. Many have commented on how gracious Adam was, and how he let Angie shine. This time, listening, I wondered how Adam could sing so forcefully and powerfully in parts of the song towards the end and not totally overwhelm Angie's voice. He was seriously belting high notes at the end. We know how much ring that usually produces. Thinking about it, I suspect Adam had his microphone adjusted so his voice did NOT stand out as a soloist. "Pull back on the reverb, on the high frequencies, make the sound more mellow. Punch up Angie's to have more sparkle and edge." It sounds like something Adam would do stylistically, artistically, and as a "supporting player," not the featured singer. What do others think? That makes sense to me. I had wondered if there was something done to adjust the song mix to keep it balanced. IMO Adam needs to do more duets -- I know that is not a popular idea with many fans but he really shines in collaborative performances. And I mean he is literally shiny -- he almost glows. My DH is not an Adam fan but he has a musical background and his second favorite performance from him is "The Prayer" with Noa Dori. I've even heard him play it on YouTube without me even being in the room. |
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Post by burrito on Jun 4, 2013 20:01:09 GMT -5
I just watched Titanium again and a new thought came into my head. Well, new for me. Many have commented on how gracious Adam was, and how he let Angie shine. This time, listening, I wondered how Adam could sing so forcefully and powerfully in parts of the song towards the end and not totally overwhelm Angie's voice. He was seriously belting high notes at the end. We know how much ring that usually produces. Thinking about it, I suspect Adam had his microphone adjusted so his voice did NOT stand out as a soloist. "Pull back on the reverb, on the high frequencies, make the sound more mellow. Punch up Angie's to have more sparkle and edge." It sounds like something Adam would do stylistically, artistically, and as a "supporting player," not the featured singer. What do others think? Oh shit. "What do others think?" gives me license to comment. Oh shit.  I think you're always thinking. I was really impressed with your thought process and enamored with the bug smiley you had crossing your post then I realized I had a real bug crossing my screen. I killed it and now I have a bug-free screen. Darn. I really liked your bug smiley. Okay, serious comment. I loved the harmonies in this song and I thought (in my brown matter burrito brain which is 239 beans short of too farty) that Adam held himself in check. But you're right, he belted parts and they didn't overwhelm. Either he's a maestro at controlling his vocals or he did what you said. Either way, he's a maestro. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2013 20:15:45 GMT -5
Good points, hermeticallysealed and mszue.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2013 20:19:59 GMT -5
I just watched Titanium again and a new thought came into my head. Well, new for me. Many have commented on how gracious Adam was, and how he let Angie shine. This time, listening, I wondered how Adam could sing so forcefully and powerfully in parts of the song towards the end and not totally overwhelm Angie's voice. He was seriously belting high notes at the end. We know how much ring that usually produces. Thinking about it, I suspect Adam had his microphone adjusted so his voice did NOT stand out as a soloist. "Pull back on the reverb, on the high frequencies, make the sound more mellow. Punch up Angie's to have more sparkle and edge." It sounds like something Adam would do stylistically, artistically, and as a "supporting player," not the featured singer. What do others think? ![]() |
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Post by restless on Jun 4, 2013 20:28:00 GMT -5
Having been in the situation, I can say that sometimes saying "Fuck off" is not only cathartic, it's what it takes to get the person to back off. Is it polite and politic? Of course not, but then again, not everything in life is nice and sunshine and rainbows, or can be solved that way. When I finally did it, not only did it feel good, but for the first time I actually felt that I could stand up and be in control of my own life. I wasn't being passive and letting them direct things, I was. In an ideal world, being polite, and pc, and oh so inoffensive would help to bring an end to harassment. But it is not an ideal world. I can say from personal experience, it does not work in many instances. In fact, it often made things worse. Sometimes, the only way to get through to these people is to make a firm stand. I can only speak of my experiences, and those of people I know, however. Thank you for sharing this! Yes, I very much agree with you. That is why I included "cavalier" (maybe there is a better word) when describing the use of these gestures/words. They are losing meaning with overuse, I think. And it very often not called for. When those situations arise, when that is what is needed at the moment, I get it. But to make it part of our everyday go to response will not improve our society. This particular campaign is referred to the Friend Movement. I guess it really caught me off guard to see this visual and the creator's explanation. Like marchhare said, this gesture does not evoke friendship. I wish I could supply a universal reaction that one could use against bullies. I know both of my kids faced bullying and one way they dealt with it was by surrounding themselves with certain friends. I was hoping that is what this movement was promoting...not the in your face fuck off. I imagine there is more to this program than what I am getting from the pictures posted today. I hope we get to see more Adam! |
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Post by sherry1877 on Jun 4, 2013 20:29:45 GMT -5
Cool story but what's with the comment below by someone named "sisely"? I mean really... seriously?!! ??? I hope that person is just a troll and not someone who considers themselves a fan. |
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Post by stardust on Jun 4, 2013 20:39:10 GMT -5
Never read the comments!!!  |
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Post by 4Ms on Jun 4, 2013 20:43:23 GMT -5
Cool story but what's with the comment below by someone named "sisely"? I mean really... seriously?!! ??? I hope that person is just a troll and not someone who considers themselves a fan. Sorry, I try not to read the comments. Too many folks proud to show off their inner "stupid". |
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