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Post by wal on Aug 18, 2013 23:25:59 GMT -5
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Post by wal on Aug 18, 2013 23:30:30 GMT -5
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Post by FanOfTheMan on Aug 18, 2013 23:33:04 GMT -5
I think Gaga running with all this PH stuff is just her looking for publicity for her new music. I just don't think negativity and running around nekkid is the way to go. That turns me off. I guess her agressive negativity will fire up her fanbase tho.
I like that Katy is more positive and concentrating on her own promotion, like Adam does. I like her. I'll buy her music. Besides - she got on my good side with her "Adam" cape on AI. I like that she doesn't feel the need to compete by going negative or going around with her bare booty hanging out. And I love her creative gold bus idea.
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Post by adamme on Aug 18, 2013 23:40:22 GMT -5
Good night everyone and thank you for the warm welcome! ![]() Welcome back wal! |
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Post by Craazyforadam on Aug 18, 2013 23:40:59 GMT -5
I think, everyone wishes to be at the top, but when someone finally reaches it, then some cannot enjoy it because the only way from there is down and many get paranoid. Gaga is in a way a victim of her own success. She wants to cement in her top spot and in the process comes across as desperate.
Much more healthy to assume that there are many fish in the pond and you are one of them, and as long as you can swim with the big fish, all is well. Assume that different people will take the lead at different times, let history sort out the rest.
I don't think that Gaga has anything relaxed about her attitude towards herself or her music. In entertainment, it does not work that way, because her anxiety is noticeable in her music.
Katy Perry comes across as playful, in comparison. And she had a rough year too in quite a few ways. But she is on top right now.
Eventually, she will also face that...cannot win every race, so the only direction is down, effect. She just is not there yet, and I hope she has more personal ability to handle it. I wish her well.
But, even the mightiest can get toppled and will, eventually. Some fall rather suddenly (i.e. Paula Deen kind of suddenly). It is rough, to have to go through that publicly.
But Gaga will only win artistically as well as market wise, if she can relax. Right now, just does not seem her time.
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Post by adamrocks on Aug 18, 2013 23:41:00 GMT -5
Wal...glad to see you back! I was about to post a "Where Are You" to you the other day! 
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Post by adamrocks on Aug 18, 2013 23:45:46 GMT -5
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Post by adamme on Aug 18, 2013 23:46:37 GMT -5
I think Gaga running with all this PH stuff is just her looking for publicity for her new music. I just don't think negativity and running around nekkid is the way to go. That turns me off. I guess her agressive negativity will fire up her fanbase tho. I like that Katy is more positive and concentrating on her own promotion, like Adam does. I like her. I'll buy her music. Besides - she got on my good side with her "Adam" cape on AI. I like that she doesn't feel the need to compete by going negative or going around with her bare booty hanging out. And I love her creative gold bus idea. Maybe people and media get tired of Gaga's antics  .. her fashions and now showing off her booty. ??? |
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Post by Q3 on Aug 18, 2013 23:48:11 GMT -5
Now Nile, if you wrote a song for Adam and he sang it for hours on end, I would sincerely hope that you have it still in your head a few hours later.  You are a master of good hooks, after all, and we are counting on you! Yes, I do agree with Q3 that hooks are key in pop and that Adam needs to have more of them, if he wants to win at the pop game. Not sure he should or will or can. Just saying without good hooks he has no chance in hell. -------- On the other debate we had tonight about RCA: 1) Nobody said that BTIKM was not the originally planned first single? Not sure what you are implying there or referring to. But, I agree, this was a deliberate choice. The date choice was very strange though and seemed not beneficial to Adam's interests. 2) Your statement that Peter Edge was busy reorganizing RCA. While that surely was his main goal during that time, I do believe that even lousy managers are usually capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time. Hence, while he reorg'd one unit, he at the same time made the major personnel decisions he wanted to make. And he also set the major directives, which in turn impacted Adam's rollout. The most major one of these directives, you did mention yourself: 3) Cutback on promotional funds. If promotional $s for TSP were spent based on ROI-history with FYE, then they must have assumed that it is hopeless to promote Adam effectively to radio, because we know that Adam received heavy promotional lifting for FYE and yet had only very sluggish acceptance of both his singles on radio. Hence they probably spent almost nothing for TSP radio promo. That, at least, would fit my outsider perception of lack of promo funding. 4) With that statement about reduced promotional funding, you kind of also confirmed my general observation/suspicion why radio seems rather icy towards RCA in general. Talk about sawing off the branch you're sitting on. I know that radio is a bitch and an aging one at that, but boy, that seems like a dumb thing to do. 5) Now we just need to figure out why Billboard is miffed at RCA. Is there any money flowing from labels to BB too? Just wondering. 6) Btw, agree with your assessment of the A&R related statements. A bunch of bs and I am not seeing the innovative stuff either. Yes, radio is icy to anyone who is not writing checks. It is not news that RCA tried and failed to take a cheap route with Adam. I went ballastic about it on this forum on page one multiple times in January-February 2012. A few specific comments... "Nobody said that BTIKM was not the originally planned first single?" myspenser50: "I believe she means everything leading up to the release of the first single which was Dec, 2011. So, her timeline is correct. Probably a delay to add BTIKM, then a delay to add NCOE, like I said..... I want a tell all book!" I do not believe there was a delay to add BTIKM. "2) Your statement that Peter Edge was busy reorganizing RCA." There is no indication that Peter Edge had much to do with Trespassing. As far as I know, there is just the one lunch at the beginning of the writing process that Adam talked about. "3) Cutback on promotional funds. If promotional $s for TSP were spent based on ROI-history with FYE, then they must have assumed that it is hopeless to promote Adam effectively to radio, because we know that Adam received heavy promotional lifting for FYE and yet had only very sluggish acceptance of both his singles on radio. Hence they probably spent almost nothing for TSP radio promo. That, at least, would fit my outsider perception of lack of promo funding." RCA really did start out spending money on promo for Adam. But there were not enough sales to sustain promotion. After the failed attempt to promote BTIKM using online radio (and that was not without promo support), RCA shifted to traditional promo, including extensive radio tours, for both BTIKM and NCOE. Look at either song, and you will see the same pattern, promoted at test stations in markets that are good for Adam, and they just did not do well. A weak song is not going to be a hit in this competitive market. They have done much worse to other artists. "5) Now we just need to figure out why Billboard is miffed at RCA. Is there any money flowing from labels to BB too? Just wondering." I do not know what you are referring to because I believe there is no issue between Billboard and RCA or SME. |
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Post by lulu1265 on Aug 18, 2013 23:50:34 GMT -5
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.. her fashions and now showing off her booty. ???
You are a master of good hooks, after all, and we are counting on you! Yes, I do agree with Q3 that hooks are key in pop and that Adam needs to have more of them, if he wants to win at the pop game. Not sure he should or will or can. Just saying without good hooks he has no chance in hell.