9.16.13 Adam to play Winstar World Casino on New Years Eve!!
Sept 16, 2013 14:48:56 GMT -5
Post by Craazyforadam on Sept 16, 2013 14:48:56 GMT -5
Yes, but Nile's story is a bit confusing too. His version is, Tim (!), not Ted, goes to bed, and he calls Prince, who sends some girls called 'The Kings' over and he composes something for them. Then he needs somebody to do the vocals and he calls Adam, who, as far as I know, is not in Vegas, but in LA. Adam gets up, works off the hangover and lays/slays the vocals.
So, first of all, do I understand this right that Nile mixes two stories together here?
Because obviously, if he writes a song for some girls, what would they do, if not sing that song themselves? Makes no sense. So, I presume, Nile tries to say that he was multi-tasking and writing a song and organizing lead vocals for his recording with Avicii at the same time.
The second question is, where Adam would go at midnight to start recording vocals for a file presumably sent to him via email? Does Adam have 7 * 24 access to some studio facility in his neighborhood? Does Nile have a studio in LA? Kind of curious how that works.
Thirdly, I would love to know, what Nile sent to Adam to work from. He must have sent him a demo (presumably the lead vocals played on the piano or guitar or something) and he must have sent him a backing track without that, to sing towards, right?
My other question is more targeted at the long term perspective of all this. I know that Nile has golden fingers and Adam needs the exposure on the world market as well as the cash, but Adam is not a session singer. And if Nile sees it as, oh here I need some vocals, let me call Adam, then this will not go well forever. In the end, LMD is a great song, in the sense of exposure, cashflow, etc, but let's face it:
The lyrics are simple, and pretty much about nothing, they are not typical AL lyrics.
The melodic complexity is simple, the phrasing, the range, everything is of a much simpler kind than what Adam does himself. Probably, that's why it has such great chances of being successful on stupid top40 radio though. But the question is, how long will Adam want to be the go-to man for any vocal that Nile needs?
Finally, the more this story is retold, the more it becomes clear that Nile was quite the negotiator, here. 1) He and Avicii had agreed that somebody needs to sing a demo for this, because otherwise they are going to forget what they have, even though, if they had a track for Adam to use, I am not sure why there was any rush? But anyhow, Avicii was under the impression that the next step was to produce a demo, when he left.
So, Adam probably said that he is not doing demo vocals for Nile, that if he is to record something, he needs song-writing credit, as the song is still in development. Now the interesting part is, that this clearly was negotiated without Tim around, because Adam did sing it. Nile showed it to Avicii in the morning, who was stunned at the quality, but then learned what the price for getting these vocals was going to be. He decided to accept the deal and voila, here we are. But that is why he probably is fighting a bit to make it clear that Adam's participation was vocals and a few lyrics only.
Often Adam has been dissed by FOAs, that he is no song-writer and I think many of those statements were groundless. In this case though, I think that Adam truly did mostly the singing, but probably had to develop that song off of a backing track only, which means he had to think the whole thing through and take it to the point where it was as great as it is now, without having been part of the session with Avicii and Nile that led to the song creation, which is a major contribution in itself.
But it means that Avicii probably feels a bit run over by a truck with what publicity of its own LMD is taking, compared to other songs, where he is the big dog and the instrumentalists and vocalists are just hired help. I sense he is feeling a bit torn about the whole thing and I have no idea what Avicii's management partner thinks. Not sure, whether I am right about this, but that is the sense I am getting.
Nile is quite a slinky fox, and I presume that Adam has sorted that one out already. But this story sure is proof of that.
So, first of all, do I understand this right that Nile mixes two stories together here?
Because obviously, if he writes a song for some girls, what would they do, if not sing that song themselves? Makes no sense. So, I presume, Nile tries to say that he was multi-tasking and writing a song and organizing lead vocals for his recording with Avicii at the same time.
The second question is, where Adam would go at midnight to start recording vocals for a file presumably sent to him via email? Does Adam have 7 * 24 access to some studio facility in his neighborhood? Does Nile have a studio in LA? Kind of curious how that works.
Thirdly, I would love to know, what Nile sent to Adam to work from. He must have sent him a demo (presumably the lead vocals played on the piano or guitar or something) and he must have sent him a backing track without that, to sing towards, right?
My other question is more targeted at the long term perspective of all this. I know that Nile has golden fingers and Adam needs the exposure on the world market as well as the cash, but Adam is not a session singer. And if Nile sees it as, oh here I need some vocals, let me call Adam, then this will not go well forever. In the end, LMD is a great song, in the sense of exposure, cashflow, etc, but let's face it:
The lyrics are simple, and pretty much about nothing, they are not typical AL lyrics.
The melodic complexity is simple, the phrasing, the range, everything is of a much simpler kind than what Adam does himself. Probably, that's why it has such great chances of being successful on stupid top40 radio though. But the question is, how long will Adam want to be the go-to man for any vocal that Nile needs?
Finally, the more this story is retold, the more it becomes clear that Nile was quite the negotiator, here. 1) He and Avicii had agreed that somebody needs to sing a demo for this, because otherwise they are going to forget what they have, even though, if they had a track for Adam to use, I am not sure why there was any rush? But anyhow, Avicii was under the impression that the next step was to produce a demo, when he left.
So, Adam probably said that he is not doing demo vocals for Nile, that if he is to record something, he needs song-writing credit, as the song is still in development. Now the interesting part is, that this clearly was negotiated without Tim around, because Adam did sing it. Nile showed it to Avicii in the morning, who was stunned at the quality, but then learned what the price for getting these vocals was going to be. He decided to accept the deal and voila, here we are. But that is why he probably is fighting a bit to make it clear that Adam's participation was vocals and a few lyrics only.
Often Adam has been dissed by FOAs, that he is no song-writer and I think many of those statements were groundless. In this case though, I think that Adam truly did mostly the singing, but probably had to develop that song off of a backing track only, which means he had to think the whole thing through and take it to the point where it was as great as it is now, without having been part of the session with Avicii and Nile that led to the song creation, which is a major contribution in itself.
But it means that Avicii probably feels a bit run over by a truck with what publicity of its own LMD is taking, compared to other songs, where he is the big dog and the instrumentalists and vocalists are just hired help. I sense he is feeling a bit torn about the whole thing and I have no idea what Avicii's management partner thinks. Not sure, whether I am right about this, but that is the sense I am getting.
Nile is quite a slinky fox, and I presume that Adam has sorted that one out already. But this story sure is proof of that.
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