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11.19.13 MTN on Billboard Chart, New Concert 12/29 Biloxi Nov 19, 2013 23:43:44 GMT -5

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Post by kathy on Nov 19, 2013 23:43:44 GMT -5

Nov 19, 2013 23:30:12 GMT -5 bridgeymah said:

Nov 19, 2013 23:19:10 GMT -5 Q3 said:

Why do you think they would sell out arenas in the US? Because I would love to have your confidence that they could do it.

Note: The Eagles can sell out 6 nights at the Forum because they have a huge fanbase in California. Could they sell out London's O2 for 6 nights? I think Queen + Adam Lambert could play arenas in other countries, including the UK.

I just can't see any reason why Queen + Adam Lambert would outsell Queen with Freddie when the band was in their prime.

The last time "real" Queen with Freddie played the US was in 1982. This tour sold out all over the world EXCEPT the US.

They did two nights in the LA area in 1982 with Freddie.

September 14, 1982 Inglewood Inglewood Forum
September 15, 1982 Inglewood Inglewood Forum
But they did not sell them out: The Forum Inglewood CA 20,502 / 36,000 (57%)

The Hot Space Tour had mixed reception -- some sold out shows (or close) but many not so good. Some of the big markets:

Madison Square Garden New York City NY 30,151 / 38,500 (78%) [2 nights]
The Spectrum Philadelphia PA 18,148 / 18,369 (99%)
Capital Centre Washington DC 8,150 / 9,378 (87%)
Boston Gardens Boston MA 8,722 / 14,895 (59%)
Reunion Arena Dallas TX 11,760 / 19,071 (62%)
Seattle Coliseum Seattle WA 9,930 / 16,641 (60%)
Oakland Coliseum Oakland CA 10,969 / 20,000 (55%)
The Forum Inglewood CA 20,502 / 36,000 (57%)

There are lot of box scores on wiki -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Space_Tour#Box_office_score_data

The Works Tour (1984) and The Magic Tour (1986) skipped North America. Queen did not tour again for 19 years until they returned with Paul Rodgers.

Queen did not have a new studio album that was in the US Billboard Top 20 after 1980 either -- even though they released 7 more studio albums that were hits in the UK and other countries from 1980-1995. Two of their many live and greatest hits albums were in the Top 20: "Greatest Hits" charted at #16 (1981) and "Classic Queen" charted at #4 (1992).

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Queen did not play LA when they toured with Paul Rodgers. This is the closest to LA they played.

April 3, 2006 Honda Center Anaheim 9,085 / 14,373 (63%)

April 11, 2006 Rose Garden Portland 4,234 / 12,600 (34%)

Ok jumping in.

I think that the "Queen" mystique has grown since 1982 - largely thanks to pop culture amplification - and granted is mostly on back of a few songs (BoRhap; WWRY; WATC) and Freddie becoming a gay icon since his death. But artists sell out with a lot less relevance. Case in point here in Oz last year George Michael sold out an arena show (35k+) - he hasn't had a hit for over a decade or more and was a late line joke for much of that time...

Everything old is new again (especially it seems aging classic rock bands) and I guess I'd close with history is not destiny. New time, new dynamic and possibly quite different outcome.

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11.19.13 MTN on Billboard Chart, New Concert 12/29 Biloxi Nov 19, 2013 23:49:56 GMT -5

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I see who is selling out Staples and Hollywood Bowl and I am quite confident Queen could sell out at least one night!
I think comparing Paul Rodgers stats is irrelevant quite frankly.
And what bridgeymah said!!

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11.19.13 MTN on Billboard Chart, New Concert 12/29 Biloxi Nov 19, 2013 23:55:20 GMT -5

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Well the picture is not one of his best, but the write up. You would think he had done nothing since 2010

INDIANA: ADAM LAMBERT

The American Idol runner-up spent his early years in Indianapolis before relocating to California with his family. But Midwest Glamberts welcomed the rocker as their own when he brought his Glam Nation tour to Indiana in 2010.

What kind of magazine is People. I've always thought of it as what you read in a doctors office 5 months late. and trashy. Is that just me?

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11.19.13 MTN on Billboard Chart, New Concert 12/29 Biloxi Nov 19, 2013 23:56:33 GMT -5

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Post by Q3 on Nov 19, 2013 23:56:33 GMT -5

bridgeymah, excellent point. And you almost have me convinced.

But I just see no sign of any Queen fan resurgence in the US.

There was a spike in interest in Queen after Wayne's World featured "Bohemian Rhapsody". But that was over 20 years ago.

The "lack" of success for Queen in North America has been a debate among Queen fans for decades. Here is a discussion thread on QOL about the subject: discuss.queenonline.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2790&start=45

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying Queen has not achieved commercial success in the US and that they do not have fans, but I am not sure they have enough concert-going fans to fill arenas.

From Rolling Stone....

(in 1984) Queen ceased to be a commercial force in the States; its next two LPs didn't even go gold. Yet all over the world the group retained its regal status.

Read more: www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/queen/biography#ixzz2l9s8hr00

I was a Queen fan in the 1970's and early 1980's. I moved on when they moved from theatrical metal and rock ballads to whatever "Hot Space" was supposed to be. (1982) I might have stayed an active Queen fan, but since they stopped touring here, and they were at their best live, I evolved. There was not YouTube in 1982. No DVDs. No downloadable video.

Hard to remain a fan of a rock band that is not touring and is not being played on the radio. They just vanished here. Except that their big hits were played in stadiums and We Are then Champions was the theme song for the biggest US ice show.

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11.19.13 MTN on Billboard Chart, New Concert 12/29 Biloxi Nov 20, 2013 0:02:07 GMT -5

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Post by wendyness on Nov 20, 2013 0:02:07 GMT -5

Nov 19, 2013 23:38:27 GMT -5 @mehitabel said:

So, I'm sitting in a little sushi place tonight and the music is playing in the background. First up, Avicii with Wake Me Up, then Rihanna with Stay, then Sia and Titanium, and finally Lady Gaga with...you guessed it, MTN!!! All in a row!! I was in heaven - So NOT. Just wasn't right. Just wasn't fair. ErrrrUmm

WOW! Seriously, what are the odds? It's a sign from the universe! (The Adam storm is coming.)

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11.19.13 MTN on Billboard Chart, New Concert 12/29 Biloxi Nov 20, 2013 0:08:40 GMT -5

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Nov 19, 2013 23:56:33 GMT -5 Q3 said:

bridgeymah, excellent point. And you almost have me convinced.

But I just see no sign of any Queen fan resurgence in the US.

There was a spike in interest in Queen after Wayne's World featured "Bohemian Rhapsody". But that was over 20 years ago.

The "lack" of success for Queen in North America has been a debate among Queen fans for decades. Here is a discussion thread on QOL about the subject: discuss.queenonline.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2790&start=45

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying Queen has not achieved commercial success in the US and that they do not have fans, but I am not sure they have enough concert-going fans to fill arenas.

From Rolling Stone....

(in 1984) Queen ceased to be a commercial force in the States; its next two LPs didn't even go gold. Yet all over the world the group retained its regal status.

Read more: www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/queen/biography#ixzz2l9s8hr00

I was a Queen fan in the 1970's and early 1980's. I moved on when they moved from theatrical metal and rock ballads to whatever "Hot Space" was supposed to be. (1982) I might have stayed an active Queen fan, but since they stopped touring here, and they were at their best live, I evolved. There was not YouTube in 1982. No DVDs. No downloadable video.

Hard to remain a fan of a rock band that is not touring and is not being played on the radio. They just vanished here. Except that their big hits were played in stadiums and We Are then Champions was the theme song for the biggest US ice show.

Duh, sorry about that, learning.
Respectfully disagree. Sir Paul and Elton fill areas and can't sell albums, per recent releases. Multi generational crowds, Broadway Touring show, satellite radio station, success of Iheart (press before and after) upcoming movie, Adam restores the sound and feel of the band, commercial tie ins and I really think tickets will sell.

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11.19.13 MTN on Billboard Chart, New Concert 12/29 Biloxi Nov 20, 2013 0:11:05 GMT -5

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Post by supardu on Nov 20, 2013 0:11:05 GMT -5

Nov 19, 2013 22:30:14 GMT -5 Q3 said:

OK the Animal test nailed me!

ENTPs prize intelligence and competence over all other things (both in themselves and in others). They are often described as witty, clever, cerebral, and resourceful. They are verbally inclined and they often have a perverse sense of humor. ENTPs like to analyze every side of an issue and are creative thinkers and workers. They sometimes chatter.

I never analyze anything!

I have no idea what they are talking about.

Of course that is not just a parrot. It is a Scarlet Macaw. A bird I would love to own.

Me, too! I've taken the long form Myers Briggs test twice, and am between the INTP and ENTP. The NTP part is very strong. In fact, I've always said that if I were to be reincarnated as an animal, I would choose to be a bird. And, I chatter.

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