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Post by adamme on Dec 6, 2013 21:05:46 GMT -5
I'm interested to know how do you compare the objective criteria between Adam & Freddie? Have you seen Freddie live performances? Or that comparison just based on the YTs videos that are out there? If the comparison's based on YT videos of Freddie and Adam, there's 30years old gap of technology. Like Q3 said one's a weak poorly recorded Freddie's performance from the 80s and the other one's an HD videos.
You make a good point that technology has advanced greatly and we are gifted with archived performances of much greater quality than in the past. Having said that, the criteria here can be noted regardless of the video and audio quality of the recordings. Range is not altered by a recording. If the singer can hit a G5 in full voice, it will still be a G5 in full voice, even if the sound quality is crappy. The note doesn't change. The fact that it is full-voice, not head voice or falsetto, is still discernable. The listener may not be able to accurately judge the quality of the tone or timbre due to limited frequency response of a camera and a recording device, but she can determine the pitch. When someone talks about a singer's control, I think about their ability to make the notes sound consistent throughout their range, and throughout a musical phrase. The notes are equally strong or tender, sustained or clipped. The pitch doesn't wobble, notes are not flat or sharp, the singer does not run out of breath, but takes breaths where it makes interpretive, lyrical and musical sense. The singer does not have to strain for some notes while other notes are too brash or wimpy. The song does not rule what the singer does. The singer is able to produce an intentional and compelling interpretation, regardless of the difficulty of the tempo, range, and complexity of the melody and harmonies. The singer is consistently in charge. I think one can note this ability in videos of singers done as far back as the 1920s and 1930s. The singer's power may be a bit harder to determine with poor video and audio quality, but it still shows through. And the singer's versatility, meaning the ability to sing in a number of different styles, genres, tempos, and moods and sing them authentically can be noted regardless of whether the recording is in high def, or shot with an elementary 8 mm film camera. Where the high quality of today's videos has the greatest impact is on the clarity of the voice and the tone/timbre of the voice. Today's videos have a much broader and more balanced frequency response, so they can more completely capture the resonance and richness of a voice, or, conversely, the dullness and thin quality. Early videos of singers and musicians lack much in replicating a live experience, but we can still learn a lot about the performer by watching them.
I agree that people still can learn a lot about the performer by watching the YTs. A lot of Queen videos out there were from their concerts in the 80s. Like Q3 said, there is very little live footage of Freddie in the early 1970's before he busted his voice.
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Post by adamrocks on Dec 6, 2013 21:15:46 GMT -5
Some tweets. Jan Roodt @parraqiiii 11m O.M.G @chriscolfer has always been my favorite glee character... But @adamlambert just passed him... He just have the daring look! #loveboth
101.6 ZOO FM @zoofmbatam 11m @jessiezoofm sign out , and last song #NP @adamlambert - Never Close Our Eyes #NonStopHits , happy weekend and BTS Zooholic ! !
AVICII NEWS OFFICIAL @avicii_News_ 5 Dec AVICII PIC: #LayMeDown - We think its one of the best songs on #TRUE! Whats yours? #TRUE! #AviciiNileAdam! #Singles! pic.twitter.com/wp3jITMwCa
PurpIegirl @purpiegirll 1h RTBaksPH: Adam Lambert's version of Marry the Night. So good.
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Post by adamrocks on Dec 6, 2013 21:25:03 GMT -5
Tweets from the MTN video. Orlando Romero1 day ago This was the best thing that happened on Glee in so long. For sure the best performance in the whole episode.
GimmeThatBecky8221 hours ago i so agree, i stopped watching glee back like 4 years ago, if adam lambert is in the cast, i am so rewatching
jalu suharto9 hours ago truely awesome..
Sir Theslacher1 day ago such a charisma
Rachel Barbra Berry1 day ago Amazing
TheFunnygirl9005 hours ago I love his voice adam lambert is so good
Timothy Soncuan2 hours ago He nailed it! This is awesomeness. Wow.
Brett Graham11 hours ago Got forced to watch a "glee-a-thon" with girlfriend and have to admit this is my favorite cover of the show. Not even a Adam fan but he does kill this
amazingmaryy1 day ago Never been a fan of Adam Lambert.. but damn, that was really good.
guipocok3 hours ago He's the best I ever heard!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 21:28:39 GMT -5
To paraphrase ADAM there is room for everyone. I have never understood the desire to figure out who is the better singer.IMHO, Why does it matter?why can't they each have talent, and their own individuality.. It's all so subjective and ultimately does it change anything? It's kind of like saying I like well done steak ,It's better than medium rare steak.. HUH oh hallelu, Melliemom! Wish you were still online. This is one friggin' depressing thread.
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Post by suzie12 on Dec 6, 2013 21:31:21 GMT -5
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Post by adamrocks on Dec 6, 2013 21:33:03 GMT -5
Those eyes! Linderella scorpiobert 4m Srsly? idek pic.twitter.com/ali6LVC0rz
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 21:38:08 GMT -5
Thanks to Murley I went exploring. I had not been to DDD for a long time and the conversation I remember is still going on. www.digitaldreamdoor.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=185Here is how these "boys" rate the technical aspects of over 100 voices Vocalists are rated on their Technical Skill based on their prime ability by the following criteria.
Technique: Breath Support, Consistency throughout registers, Endurance, Diction
Control: Register Switching, Runs, Register Blending, Pitch, Vibrato, Volume Control
Power & Range: Projection, Resonance, Use of Range, Sustain
Versatility: Technical Versatility, Tonal Versatility, Stylistic Versatility
For criteria breakdowns, each criterion from either tier is worth equal points. Influence and impact have no bearing on a singer's placement.
100 Most Technically Skilled Male Rock Vocalists
Updated 12/13/10
Old list (will be updated)
1. Jackie Wilson
2. Adam Lambert
3. Tim Buckley
4. Freddie Mercury
5. Jeff Buckley
6. Chris Cornell
7. Michael Kiske
8. Steve Perry
9. Geoff Tate
10. Mike PattonThere are currently 234 pages and 3496 posts. Our conversation today could go on for a long time. In reading through some of the later posts it reads similar to us. And then we go over to: www.digitaldreamdoor.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=187100 Greatest Live Rock Vocalists
UPDATED: 6/23/10 This list is based on the following criteria: - Ability to stay on-pitch. - The difficulty of the material that is attempted. - How long their careers have/had produced impressive Live material. - Ability to improvise. - According to all of the Vocal criteria, how big the disparity is between Studio Recordings and Live performances. - Reputation / acclaim as a Live vocalist. 1. Steve Perry 2. John Farnham 3. Jackie Wilson 4. Ronnie James Dio 5. Roger Daltrey 6. Aretha Franklin 7. Ian Gillan 8. Elvis Presley 9. Freddie Mercury
10. Jeff Buckley 11. Etta James 12. Tim Buckley 13. Adam Lambert
So you can make a list and check it twice... Then use other criteria and check it again. These guys really really like lists! digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/music0.htmlI'm tired now...
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Post by murly on Dec 6, 2013 22:03:06 GMT -5
Buffy the Vampire Slayer also had a musical episode. All the songs were written by Buffy creator Joss Whedon ("Husbands" fans know him as Brady's agent) and all the actors sang even if they weren't very good. The premise of the episode was that a demon (played by Broadway star Hinton Battle) was forcing people to sing and dance until they were incinerated from the energy of it. A lot of truths were revealed in song that the characters hadn't been able to face in their everyday lives. It was just delightful. I think Psych has a musical episode coming up too. I'm looking forward to it. You gotta be kidding me! I actually re-watched Season 6 Episode 7 of Buffy last night, since I had such a great memory of it from when I saw it over a decade ago. I discovered that Netflix now has the complete series (when I first got Netflix two years ago, they did not have them all). And then you mention it right the next day? Spooky! Of course, I had fond memories of the episode, and it still was fun to watch ("I've got a theory, it could be bunnies!"), but we have been spoiled by Glee and especially Adam, so the singing was actually pretty bad. But such great fun! www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wcLwtg98S-8Yes, some of the singing was pretty bad, but because of the premise of the episode, that was okay! The characters were forced to sing and therefore it made sense that some of them would be good and some of them would be not so good. I thought the best ones were Anya, Tara, and Giles; the worst were Xander, Dawn, and Willow; in-between were Buffy and Spike. The songs were really catchy and clever. My favorite scene was the fire engine going by just as they were singing, "And let it burn!" It actually gave me goose bumps. I think I'll have to get my DVD of the episode out and watch it again!
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Post by evergreen on Dec 6, 2013 22:15:52 GMT -5
And now for my comment on today's deeeep topics... What. A. Profile. (Speaking from the shallow end) Where's Nica?
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