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Post by bridgeymah on Jan 2, 2014 17:02:08 GMT -5
Seems to me that idea of success and celebrity has become mixed up somewhere along the way. Success isn't a photo in people magazine every week or a number of twitter followers. I've always thought of Success is an accumulation. Of actions, events and outcomes that is noted and appreciated by others over time. Adam is building success on his own terms using his own talent and smarts. His name sells. He as a strong devoted (growing) fan base who will pretty much buy anything he does. He has respect and admiration of peers and luminaries in his chosen field. And he can still for most part live a relatively "normal" life. Not bad at all... #carryon I don't think we should discount the value of those photos in People and the number of twitter followers. Success and celebrity ARE mixed together, IMO. I'm not sure there is one without the other - not sizable success anyway. Adam's success is being built on all of those mentioned things - a devoted, growing fanbase, appearances on TV shows, concerts, appearing with Queen, etc. His name sells because of his growing involvement in all avenues of the business - PR, talent,magazine photos and articles,television, twitter, awards, humanity endeavors and supports, etc. The accumulation of all of these are important parts of his success. On this one we will have to agree to disagree. To my thinking success and celebrity have nothing to do with each other. Sure some successful people are also celebrities but that is far and away the minority. I see success as something of substance because of things of worth and note. Celebrity is a manufactured bubble (and pretty much just as empty). I love and will always support Adam's success. I couldn't care less about his celebrity. But as I said earlier - these are just my opinions, don't expect anyone to agree with me, which I guess means I should keep them to myself knowing what people say about opinions...  #carryon |
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Post by adamrocks on Jan 2, 2014 17:04:53 GMT -5
TALCvids @talcvids 14m Adam Lambert Performs Jimi Hendrix's "Red House" At An Oklahoma NYE Concert p.ost.im/RVEeAY via @glistsociety
Platinum recording artist Adam Lambert rang in 2014 in front of a sold out show of thousands inside the Winstar Hotel and Casino in Oklahoma. The former “American Idol” finalist performed an hour-long set of hits and covers that he has been known to slay since his “Idol” days. One of those riveting live performances was his cover of Jimi Hendrix’s “Red House.” Unfamiliar with the rock classic? Check out Lambert’s interpretation of the hit below.
(the video)
As a true Lambert performance, this one nailed it. Rumor has it that the singer will be recording a new album that will drop later this year. I would love to see him collaborate with the likes of Ryan Tedder, Timbaland and John Shanks for this effort.
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Jan 2, 2014 17:07:52 GMT -5
Agree. No to an opening act. I usually skip them and arrive in time for the act I am actually paying money, fighting traffic, and being scalped for parking in order to see live. To me, opening acts have always been "fillers" to make it worth the time, money and effort to see a live show. Audiences expect two to three hours or "entertainment", but most don't pay any attention to anyone but the main attraction. Of course, for those who are actually there for the opening act, and are listening and watching, Adam would be very impressive, but I don't want him to have to work so hard to just get the attention of fans of another artist. He feeds off our energy, and the dynamic would be very different as an opening act performer. Plus, no pop star out there would want to go on stage after Adam sang if they have any ear for music. Even Adam's Wicked cast mates didn't want to sing after him at the Karaoke bar, cuz he was too good. Nope, I would prefer smaller venues and less super stardom to trying to beg an audience from another pop star. IMO. You can state your opinion as well, but, nothing will change how I feel about this.  |
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Post by seoulmate on Jan 2, 2014 17:10:01 GMT -5
evie1512... omg omg, I love this story!! I really need to see the brooch up close! Does anyone have a pic where we can see it clearly? We can see the pin on several pictures adamrocks posted on pages 6 and 7 of this thread. Yes, but I can't find one single closeup HD pic that shows the pin CLEARLY. Lots of vaguely blurred ones, tho! I just went through all 18 pages of yesterday's thread and nothing is crystal clear.  Nevermind... it's not terribly important!! I just wanted to see a nice crystal clear close up of the Scottish thistle! |
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Jan 2, 2014 17:12:04 GMT -5
Adam's voice, singing the blues.........mmmm mmm! I'm glad he gave Tommy some time to show people he really is a good guitar player  Red House was like a conversation between vocal & guitar! I want to hear more of that in A3. There is so little of it in most Pop music today. |
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Post by 4EverAdam on Jan 2, 2014 17:12:13 GMT -5
Did a crop and resize for a better look at the mentioned pin -  |
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Post by melliemom on Jan 2, 2014 17:18:36 GMT -5
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Post by rihannsu on Jan 2, 2014 17:18:38 GMT -5
Just a little thing for everyone to think about. Name recognition and cultural reference. Adam has them. People may not be too informed on what he's up to currently but a LOT of people know who he is and he is used as a reference point very often so it is expected that people know at least a little about him. That is a HUGE advantage. The problem is that our information sources are so varied and diversified that it is very hard for anyone to reach the level of recognition that people like Katy Perry and Lady Gaga have. But what a lot of people don't realize is that KP and Gaga did not gain that recognition overnight, no matter how it may appear to the general public. Even before the release of Gaga's first album she had been touring clubs for years building a fan base. That fan base just wasn't visible to the general public. By the time the media recognition started rolling in they already had a solid fan base so the speed with which their careers took off was huge.
Adam coming off Idol is in the opposite position. He got the media name recognition pretty much first. He had a small following of purely local fans mostly from Wicked or the local clubs he played but not nearly enough. His challenge is to maintain the name recognition while building a fan base. That is really a much harder job. So many other Idols have completely fallen of the radar of recognition. Especially media recognition. Keeping the media interested and on your side is incredibly difficult. Once the media decides you are a has been turning that around is incredibly difficult. I am constantly amazed at the fact that the media has just seemed to love Adam more and more as time goes on. Mainstream media may not talk about him often but when they do they usually refer to him as a superstar and one of Idol's biggest successes.
Being A-list by the way has absolutely nothing to do with how often you appear in media or where. It really isn't even about how the public sees you, it is about how the media industry itself ranks you and I can't think of a single instance of mainstream media NOT treating Adam as an A-lister when they DO report on him.
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Post by Avari on Jan 2, 2014 17:21:04 GMT -5
I just wanted to do a quick de-lurk to wish everyone a Happy New Year! I don't post very much, but I am here every day enjoying all the amazing conversations between people that I've never met, but feel I know. I have to share this, because no one here would understand the way my fellow Adamtopians/Glamberts will. After staying up until stupid o'clock watching the stream from Adam's NYE show and listening and watching our fantastic guy who sounded and looked better than ever, I looked forward to the videos and photographs yesterday. I though he looked amazing, loved the sparkly jacket, the shirt, the hair, the face - in fact everything. And then, dragging myself away from his face, my eyes focussed on the brooch in his lapel and there I think was the gift I gave to him outside our local radio station in Glasgow in March 2010! A traditional Scottish thistle kilt pin with an amethyst stone set in the thistle head. I am truly shocked if it is the same one, the last time I saw it it was wrapped in tissue in a gift bag and Lane looked after it whilst my friend took a photograph of me and Adam - hence the avi. I don't feel this way very much, but I feel very special right now - Adam can probably have anything he wants at this moment in time and he chose a wee gift given by a fan for such a special occasion. I'll away back into lurkdom again but I'll still be here every day. Love to you all!! This is the most awesomest story ever!!! I am so happy for you! :D |
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Post by melliemom on Jan 2, 2014 17:23:21 GMT -5
Just a little thing for everyone to think about. Name recognition and cultural reference. Adam has them. People may not be too informed on what he's up to currently but a LOT of people know who he is and he is used as a reference point very often so it is expected that people know at least a little about him. That is a HUGE advantage. The problem is that our information sources are so varied and diversified that it is very hard for anyone to reach the level of recognition that people like Katy Perry and Lady Gaga have. But what a lot of people don't realize is that KP and Gaga did not gain that recognition overnight, no matter how it may appear to the general public. Even before the release of Gaga's first album she had been touring clubs for years building a fan base. That fan base just wasn't visible to the general public. By the time the media recognition started rolling in they already had a solid fan base so the speed with which their careers took off was huge. Adam coming off Idol is in the opposite position. He got the media name recognition pretty much first. He had a small following of purely local fans mostly from Wicked or the local clubs he played but note nearly enough. His challenge is to maintain the name recognition while building a fan base. That is really a much harder job. So many other Idols have completely fallen of the radar of recognition. Especially media recognition. Keeping the media interested and on your side is incredibly difficult. Once the media decides you are a has been turning that around is incredibly difficult. I am constantly amazed at the fact that the media has just seemed to love Adam more and more as time goes on. Mainstream media may not talk about him often but when they do they usually refer to him as a superstar and one of Idol's biggest successes. Being A-list by the way has absolutely nothing to do with how often you appear in media or where. It really isn't even about how the public sees you, it is about how the media industry itself ranks you and I can't think of a single instance of mainstream media NOT treating Adam as an A-lister when they DO report on him. Exactly.. well said |
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