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Post by coo.coo.ca.choo on Feb 27, 2014 0:14:17 GMT -5
kittykay said: "Straight guys often play gay, but gay guys playing straight is unique". Well, actually a lot of gay guys, some of the biggest stars in Hollywood, have played straight romantic leads. But they are or were closeted. They are actors, after all, no matter their sexual orientation. But it has always been easier to "play straight" on screen when you also "play straight" off screen. I think some of the public, and sometimes the critics, still find it hard to accept the idea of an openly gay actor playing a straight romantic role. I'm thinking of Jonathan Groff, who played vocal coach Jesse St. James on "Glee" and had a romantic relationship with the Rachel character played by Lea Michele. In this case, I don't think "the public" cared, or even knew about Jonathan's orientation. But some critics lashed him as a gay man "trying" to play straight. Jonathan does do a good job as the straight romantic "vocal" lead" opposite Idina Menzel in the animation mega-hit "Frozen". i haven't heard of any critical push-back in this case, I suppose because he's just voicing a cartoon. I do think, though, that Adam could convincingly play a straight non-cartoon leading man as he seems to have more chemistry with women than some of the closeted male stars with their big PR romances (and marriages) but who have very little heat with women on screen. I wonder sometimes then why straight men are acceptable playing gay roles -- i.e. Michael Douglas and Matt Damon. The roles in the Liberace piece were considered a stretch for them. Couldn't straight roles be considered a stretch for a gay ACTOR too? |
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Post by LindaG23 on Feb 27, 2014 0:15:01 GMT -5
 I made one for myself. |
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Post by adamrocks on Feb 27, 2014 0:17:01 GMT -5
Oooah! Linda I love that pic! Fierce Adam!!!  |
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Post by Q3 on Feb 27, 2014 0:18:43 GMT -5
Some thoughts before I drift off to sleep. Chris/Kurt did a fine singing job on IBIATCL, there was a little bit of edge to his voice, but he just did not know what to do with his hands and arms except play a very small air guitar. And when microphones were thrust by unseen hands into Adam's and Chris's faces, Adam grabbed his like he owned it and belted, where Chris put his hands to his sides and leaned in. This is one place where to me you could really see the difference that Adam's experience in concert makes. And, there ought to be a legs capture where Adam is standing with his knees slightly bent on the counter because in that shot his legs start here and go all the way to there. C'est magnifique! First, I think the Adam-Chris performance was the best moment of the entire show except for the follow-up scene in Kurt's apartment. And all the NYC performances were great. But I do not think this was as great as MTN. Yes, I think Kurt looks a bit awkward and his attempt to be sexy is just silly looking. He is in a weird place because his character is a bit of a dork-nerd. However, Adam was right, Kurt/Chris is great on the stripper pole. And yes, Adam owned that mike in a way that few performers can. Looking forward -- I think the upcoming Adam-Lea duet will be a great vocal combo. And I think the Adam-Lea-Naya Rivera trio will also be great. I think these combos will work better in so many ways. Plus, we get Adam and Demi. My favorite Adam duets are all with strong female vocalists. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2014 0:21:23 GMT -5
I watched the first season. Liked it initially but thought it devolved into a soap opera quickly. Not interested. Coming back to watch this season for Adam, it seems like a ridiculous show. And that's coming from me, who saw my first musical at the age of six, and can suspend my disbelief with the best of them. Perhaps because it is television, not a stage production, I expect a bit more realism? Or perhaps it is because Glee is not sure which way it wants to play things: campy, OTT and absurd; or sincere and relevant. My problem is that, while I watch, I keep being dumped out of the scene with protesting thoughts of "Give me a break! That would NEVER happen." Not the launching into a production number in music stores and high school halls. I expect that with musicals. It's that some of the characters and plot lines are totally unbelieveable. My other problem is that they have created so many characters and so many plot lines that none get developed to any degree. Watching a scene, it feels like they are showing highlights or a recap or a quick summary, rather than the fleshed out story line. Combining this lack of character/plot development with the unbelieveable characters and plots and I cannot see how it ever got so popular in the first place. Well, I guess I can, considering the unreality and banality of some of the "reality shows" on TV. In any case, Adam was stellar, and was able to show lots of potential if any producers and directors were watching. Hope the offers come pouring in, regardless of the viewing numbers. I hear what you are saying Cassie but seriously....what is there in most of television that actually has any sense of 'realness'.. .or even verisimilitude within the plot. I find Glee every bit as 'real' as the bulk of the programming out there....especially the ones that try and make us think that what they are showing is the way life really is...all those nasty cop and detective dramas...especially when the lead characters have almost every crime they investigate relates back to something in their 'real, past' lives....that is a full on 'give me a break' moment for me.... Even good old Shakespeare had characters meet and fall in love within 10 minutes of dialogue....sheesh One of the things I really like about the latest craze of television watching...the binge watch..[and especially when a whole series is dropped at one time as with Netflix offerings] is that for the first time outside of a book, full on complex character development can occur...and morph. All that is to say that I don't think Glee is really that more fantastical than the huge bulk of what we view on television...good and or bad. It is just that some of it tries harder to convince us that it is 'real' and some does not really even try! I am really sorry that we adults seem to have lost our love for musicals for the most part....I really liked Smash and thought they did a good job. For a first full on acting gig I think Katherine McPhee did well...I would love to see Adam with a part in a show like that....be still my fanstan heart :-) verisimilitude? Ga I love you mszue! |
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Post by Q3 on Feb 27, 2014 0:23:43 GMT -5
kittykay said: "Straight guys often play gay, but gay guys playing straight is unique". Well, actually a lot of gay guys, some of the biggest stars in Hollywood, have played straight romantic leads. But they are or were closeted. They are actors, after all, no matter their sexual orientation. But it has always been easier to "play straight" on screen when you also "play straight" off screen. I think some of the public, and sometimes the critics, still find it hard to accept the idea of an openly gay actor playing a straight romantic role. I'm thinking of Jonathan Groff, who played vocal coach Jesse St. James on "Glee" and had a romantic relationship with the Rachel character played by Lea Michele. In this case, I don't think "the public" cared, or even knew about Jonathan's orientation. But some critics lashed him as a gay man "trying" to play straight. Jonathan does do a good job as the straight romantic "vocal" lead" opposite Idina Menzel in the animation mega-hit "Frozen". i haven't heard of any critical push-back in this case, I suppose because he's just voicing a cartoon. I do think, though, that Adam could convincingly play a straight non-cartoon leading man as he seems to have more chemistry with women than some of the closeted male stars with their big PR romances (and marriages) but who have very little heat with women on screen. I wonder sometimes then why straight men are acceptable playing gay roles -- i.e. Michael Douglas and Matt Damon. The roles in the Liberace piece were considered a stretch for them. Couldn't straight roles be considered a stretch for a gay ACTOR too? There are so many gay actors who play or played romantic leads..... Matt Bomer? Does not seem to be a stretch for him. Lawrence Olivier? The list goes on and on. |
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Post by adamrocks on Feb 27, 2014 0:32:17 GMT -5
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Post by betty on Feb 27, 2014 0:34:45 GMT -5
Haha, OMG, look at 2.34 - 2.37, when Kurt hangs at the stripper pole, do you see the big spider running over the ground???     |
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Post by Q3 on Feb 27, 2014 0:42:25 GMT -5
Nite! That may be the funniest tweet ever!! |
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Post by coo.coo.ca.choo on Feb 27, 2014 0:44:14 GMT -5
I wonder sometimes then why straight men are acceptable playing gay roles -- i.e. Michael Douglas and Matt Damon. The roles in the Liberace piece were considered a stretch for them. Couldn't straight roles be considered a stretch for a gay ACTOR too? There are so many gay actors who play or played romantic leads..... Matt Bomer? Does not seem to be a stretch for him. Lawrence Olivier? The list goes on and on. I was attempting to be sarcastic. |
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