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Post by Avari on Mar 30, 2014 16:10:22 GMT -5
I agree. I never liked the vjjs; I thought they were a hindrance rather than a help to most performances. In fact....bad fan warning!...their sound and presence distract me so much that there are very, very few WAG videos I actually really like. :/ Well for the most part, IMHO, they never sang on tune.Either flat or sharp.... :( my musical "ear" isn't good enough to tell if a note is flat or sharp, I just know they always sounded unpleasant to me. And just wrong; they ruined so many songs for me. :( |
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Post by adamrocks on Mar 30, 2014 16:11:39 GMT -5
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Post by kittykay on Mar 30, 2014 16:14:10 GMT -5
I ETA: Cassie -- I see you beat me!! Since you are hear, why does Adam sound so much better than Chris on that duet? It is more than the difference in power. Is it just that Adam has such smooth, easy transitions and more developed vocal flourishes (or whatever the proper term is for the extra vocal effects he adds)? There just sounds like there is more "data" when Adam sings. When you hear Adam singing with someone else you would suspect that he has bribed the sound tech to tweak the mics, adding special effects, reverb and volume to his, and dampening harmonic frequencies in the other voice to make it sound less full, less present. I know that Adam endures (oops, make that) endears himself to the tech people, but I don't think he can manipulate them all. It's the raw difference in his voice. You have identified some of the factors. Yes, he has power that he can dial up when he chooses, and dial back to an intimate level. Yes, he knows how to add those riffs or flourishes in a way that sounds pleasing, not like he is just doing it to show off cuz he can. The transitions you talk about are important, too. It takes a lot of technique and practice to make a voice sound seamless from top to bottom through all the registers. It's not something that comes naturally or by listening to other singers alone. It has to be learned from a coach/teacher. One factor I noticed with Nate in particular, but with others as well is that Adam sings through musical phrases. He doesn't chop them off at the end, or chop them up in the middle. Untrained singers often do this because they have never learned how to breathe and support their singing. It is one thing that makes Adam's voice sound richer and more ringing, almost like a natural reverb. The biggest thing to me about Adam's voice is that incredible resonance. If you were to use a frequency analyser and identify the various harmonics in his tone I am sure you would find a much broader range of compatible sub-harmonics than most singers. A note has a primary pitch of so many cycles per second (in the soundWAVE). For example, the A above middle C on the piano (the note an orchestra all tunes to) vibrates at 440 cycles per second. Unless the note is being produced by some type of electronic means, tho', there are additional subharmonics which are mathmatical multiples of the 440 cycles. These are produced by the instrument, the sound chambers, the materials in the environment, etc that are stimulated to resonate to the 440 Hz tone.
Adam was blessed with a body that has unusually great natural resonance. Think of it as having a Stradivarius violin while everyone else has instruments that vary from beginning student $50 pieces to performance qualty pieces worth $10,000 +. (A Strad sold for $3.6 MILLION back in 2010). The best violinist in the world cannot make a $50 violin sound beautiful. Conversely, a beginning student cannot make a Stradavarius sound beautiful either. It takes great technique and artistry to make a Strad "sing" more perfectly than any other violin in the world.
Adam knows how to coax those harmonics from his body, amplify the ones he wants for the sound he wants (mellow or sharp, dark or light, mature or youthful, rock or opera), and project them. It is like Adam is singing in High Def while others have an old analog voice. Or like Adam has a Crayola box with 120 crayons in it where non-singers have 8, good singers have 32 and great singers have 64. Or Adam has a voice like a boxed assortment of the world's finest chocolates, good singers have a box of Russell Stover, and non-singers have a bag of tootsie rolls. Or Adam's voice is like listening to orchestral music with a state of the art surround sound system in a specially built listening room, good singers have high end Bose speakers, and non-singers have a 40 year old walkman radio. At least, that is what I hear. IMO. YMMV etc.I just love your posts. Adam began formal voice training prior to puberty. Did this effect the development of his barrel chest? Did the training effect the "stradavarius" in other ways? I know he trained to use his instrument but I am asking if that training help physically shape the instrument? |
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Post by Q3 on Mar 30, 2014 16:34:37 GMT -5
Based on what I saw in recent concerts, Adam is in much better physical shape now then he was during GNT and that clearly is improving his capacity to manipulate his voice -- and do some amazing dance moves. I never appreciated how much like sports, being an professional entertainer can be. I think Eber may owe Adam an apology for the "sports, not so much" comment. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2014 16:37:46 GMT -5
title for this should be " irresistible force meets immovable object" That is one big man, wonder what he does for a living? Total defensive line by himself for a football team? |
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Post by adamrocks on Mar 30, 2014 16:40:45 GMT -5
I think we can all pretty much agree to this tweet! Winter Kween @kweenjeane 3h Bottom Line on everything @adamlambert : There is NEVER enuff. Singing, talking, acting, walking, smiling, laughing, loving, just BEING!!
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Mar 30, 2014 16:48:00 GMT -5
Just a reminder to all: If you hate those pesky ads on ATop, use the links at the bottom of the page to order from iTunes and Amazon.com. They help support ad-free ATop. Does ATop get credit even if I buy something that is not music related by clicking on the Amazon link at the bottom of the page? |
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Mar 30, 2014 16:59:08 GMT -5
Based on what I saw in recent concerts, Adam is in much better physical shape now then he was during GNT and that clearly is improving his capacity to manipulate his voice -- and do some amazing dance moves. I never appreciated how much like sports, being an professional entertainer can be. I think Eber may owe Adam an apology for the "sports, not so much" comment. And IMHO dancing IS a sport! They even call the competitive ballroom version "DANCESPORT". Ok, the term was invented to better the chances of getting ballroom dancing into the Olympics, which I think it totally should be in. It is every bit as much of a sport as figure skating! And I have gotten my heart rate up much higher with all out commitment to a dance, which you have to do to compete, than with most other forms of exercise I have tried. And Adam is really a good dancer IMHO! I have seen him do body moves in GNT that astonished me! Wish I could find the video, but there was this one concert in the early part of the European portion of GNT where Adam does these moves during Fever that had me practicing to see if I could do them and get them up to his speed. Fast set of rib cage slides to a three-quarter rib cage circle to a full body down undulation, ... OK, so now I'm talking about moves that any belly dancer would be envious of rather than ballroom, but it is all dance to me. And Adam fully commits to the dancing as well as the singing on stage which takes tremendous amounts of energy!!! |
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Post by seoulmate on Mar 30, 2014 17:01:27 GMT -5
....and now my 8 year old singing "ah, ah, ah I just wanna be a Rockstar". Makes a change from "do you want to build a snowman"? Beats the MineCraft version: "Elsa? <knock><knock> Do you want to build a snowma... SPLAT!" ETA: Your kid will now giggle hysterically for the next two hours. You're welcome.  omg toooo funny!!!  |
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Mar 30, 2014 17:09:55 GMT -5
Adam began formal voice training prior to puberty. Did this effect the development of his barrel chest? Did the training effect the "stradavarius" in other ways? I know he trained to use his instrument but I am asking if that training help physically shape the instrument? As far as I know, there's just two ways to help insure (but not guarantee) that a boy grows up with a good barrel chest for singing: 1) castrate them before puberty so that the bone plates in the rib cage never fully harden and thus keep expanding throughout his life span 2) make sure that the kid has the right genetics So, thanks Eber. |
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