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Post by cassie on Aug 2, 2014 11:14:25 GMT -5
Please post your favorite performance YT along with comments, questions, observations, deep thoughts, etc.
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Post by talon on Aug 7, 2014 7:17:07 GMT -5
Adam handles this one brilliantly. I miss the glory notes of 2012 and am not sure how I feel about the very recent way he started ending the last big moment with the low start and then rising intonation of shoowooowooowooowooo to a higher note. The first time he tried it he went for a semi-glory note which i liked...now though he's ending it a bit short and I'm not quite a fan.
Of course I understand the concept of saving his voice for a gruelling tour....but Day 2 of Hammersmith in 2012 remains my fav version of the song...
BUT glory notes aside, this song has never had a complaint from me. Beautifully handled.
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Post by toramenor on Aug 7, 2014 8:33:14 GMT -5
I actually really liked the change-up: starting deep and then climbing up the scale for the glory note at the end, it's so dramatic and quite in keeping with the spirit of the song. This, I would say, is my favourite Queen song overall - fell in love with it the first time I heard it Here are the performances from QAL NA tour that I'll single out (but I love them all): LA - best moment: 3.25-3.35 - this is high drama at its best; - special mention: the way he adds something to his voice on "I'm aching to be free"--ufff; - I love the ending and I think this is the first time he finishes the song like that, starting from low to high www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDszUeckuGs LV1- great audio on this video (it's by mys*&@^#r50) - best moment: 3.05-3.21 - wonderful voice, of course, but I'm choosing this moment because I love his pose when he sings "I can fly, my friends, etc." - special mention: the end note - maybe it's not his longest, but it's pretty damn impressive nonetheless www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxBzlJvxSng Montreal
- this video is sadly not the full performance, the beginning is missing, but the audio is terrific - best moment: 2.43 to the end - the ending is just spectacular - special mention: his white gloves and his overall energy during the song www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Nu8SSQpfUUncasville (Mohegan) 1
- best moment: everything, from start to finish is sheer perfection www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkw8qJ5yBq0
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Post by rihannsu on Aug 7, 2014 17:19:10 GMT -5
The strange thing for me was how as the tour went on this song seemed to get lost in the incredible set list. It seemed to be rarely mentioned in reviews as the accolades went mostly to KQ, STL, LK & WWTLF. I honestly wasn't really surprised when it got dropped for a few shows because it began to feel almost anticlimactic. Adam may have been trying to find another way to beef it up but it just wasn't coming across as powerfully as it had in the past. Between the addition of ITLOTG, KQ & LK and the improvement Adam showed with STL by the time we got to TSMGO it just didn't have the same impact for the audience and being followed by Bo-rap didn't help it to stick in peoples heads.
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Post by toramenor on Feb 6, 2015 4:41:57 GMT -5
I wanna bring this post over here. Well said, craazyforadam! www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx_eL9VVjFEI challenge anybody in the world to do what Adam does here from 3:44 onwards, anybody. Opera singers, rock vocalists, anybody is invited to join the competition. I think you could search all corners of the planet and you would still come up empty-handed, that is how incredible this is. How the f**k does he do that? I mean, let's just start with that kneeling/sitting back-bend, for starters. Are you still with me? Nope. Ok, I thought so. So, for the 5-10 % or so who are fit enough to still be in the competition, why don't you try to sing a note and hold it steady, while doing that back-bend, any note, pick one you are comfortable with. Got that. Great. Of the 100,000s that typically apply for one of these talent shows, you'd be lucky, if there is still even one contestant around after that. How many of these talent shows do we have across the globe? Too many - I know. But anyhow, maybe you fine a few that could do that, if they tried, not that any sane singer would try, of course. Add to that - let's guess - a dozen opera singers in the world, who could do that. Fine. You have now assembled a very select club of vocalists. Alright, now you get to do this, after doing first a run through two octaves, starting at your lower range, following the harmonies of this song, which btw are not at all trivial to sing, by any stretch. Once you have switched from chest voice to belted head voice, come back down a few notes, then hold that high note and then lean backwards, slowly, without losing your pitch (or mind for that matter). I am not sure, that Adam would have any competition anymore, right there. Who can do that? Now do the whole thing in the key, this song is written in. The final three notes (E5, D5, B4). Most tenors cannot even sing those notes, not to speak of doing gymnastics while singing them. There is nobody with Adam anymore. Nobody. And he does it at the end of a 4 minute rock aria, which he happens to sing at the end of a 2 hour concert. Not from this planet, I tell you, Adam is absolutely not real.
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Post by badassalterego on Mar 1, 2015 4:09:49 GMT -5
Hi there I'm one of the IDF temporary people, but I just saw this section of the forum. I'm a long-time Queenie who has only just discovered Adam, so I've many happy memories of hearing Freddie's voice. I suppose it shows how truly unique his voice was that it's taken more than twenty years to find another singer who can truly get round Queen's difficult repertoire. Freddie didn't have the extensive vocal training that Adam has had, and I think he was initial self-taught then probably got some coaching. He always loved opera and this shows in Queen's music and the stuff he did in the 1980s with the opera singer Montserrat Caballe. I know he had lots of conversations with her about how opera singers "do it". I'm a classically-trained singer (mostly opera) so I know a lot of the technical background stuff because I've done it myself. However, I'm hazy on how you sing heavily amplified music as I've never really done much of it and the techniques are very different. However, the principles of actually singing the notes are exactly the same. When TSMGO was written, Freddie was extremely ill as a result of HIV/AIDS and was probably getting into the end stages of the disease. He'd gained some weight in the late 80s as a result of the steroids they were giving him to help control the disease processes, but by 1991, he had lost an enormous amount of weight. For singers the weight you carry can make a difference to the sound you make - you more muscle to put underneath the sound to support it. The result of this was that the very last Queen songs tend to have a higher range and also are generally placed higher (classical singers call this "tessitura - where the whole songs sits within the vocal range). TSMGO is therefore very high in the range and I suspect there aren't many male singers who could get round it. You need to have a naturally very high voice to start with (and Adam is a high tenor) and also it's technically difficult because of how the phrases are written. So, why has Adam changed the end of the song? There could be a couple of reasons - he could just prefer going at the phrase from a lower note and climbing to the glory note, as it's spectacular. Also, if he is doing the physical thing of putting himself flat on the floor, you can make sure your torso is in the right position by the time you're going for the top notes. If you tried to do a move like that coming straight in on a high note, you'd more than likely do yourself some damage. When you have to start a phrase with a very high note, your vocal cords have to be stretched really tight or the note will split. It's also a really tiring thing to do - as someone else has already said, TSMGO is written in an "operatic" style and a lot of the big opera composers use the same device of putting the climax of a song together by making the singer come in at the top of their range. Freddie loved Verdi opera and this is a typical Verdi tactic - I've sung arias where you have to come in on a high C/B to do the final cadenza and they're a bugger. You're often tired by then and if you have any tension in your voice, the note won't work properly. I'm not sure what the high note is at the end of TSMGO (must check it on the piano - I don't have perfect pitch), but it could be just that Adam didn't want it to be hit and miss, so worked out the alternative ending, which sounds great. Sorry, I've rambled a lot. Blame it on me being a Brit...
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Post by theosgma on Mar 1, 2015 7:59:05 GMT -5
Hi there I'm one of the IDF temporary people, but I just saw this section of the forum. I'm a long-time Queenie who has only just discovered Adam, so I've many happy memories of hearing Freddie's voice. I suppose it shows how truly unique his voice was that it's taken more than twenty years to find another singer who can truly get round Queen's difficult repertoire. Freddie didn't have the extensive vocal training that Adam has had, and I think he was initial self-taught then probably got some coaching. He always loved opera and this shows in Queen's music and the stuff he did in the 1980s with the opera singer Montserrat Caballe. I know he had lots of conversations with her about how opera singers "do it". I'm a classically-trained singer (mostly opera) so I know a lot of the technical background stuff because I've done it myself. However, I'm hazy on how you sing heavily amplified music as I've never really done much of it and the techniques are very different. However, the principles of actually singing the notes are exactly the same. When TSMGO was written, Freddie was extremely ill as a result of HIV/AIDS and was probably getting into the end stages of the disease. He'd gained some weight in the late 80s as a result of the steroids they were giving him to help control the disease processes, but by 1991, he had lost an enormous amount of weight. For singers the weight you carry can make a difference to the sound you make - you more muscle to put underneath the sound to support it. The result of this was that the very last Queen songs tend to have a higher range and also are generally placed higher (classical singers call this "tessitura - where the whole songs sits within the vocal range). TSMGO is therefore very high in the range and I suspect there aren't many male singers who could get round it. You need to have a naturally very high voice to start with (and Adam is a high tenor) and also it's technically difficult because of how the phrases are written. So, why has Adam changed the end of the song? There could be a couple of reasons - he could just prefer going at the phrase from a lower note and climbing to the glory note, as it's spectacular. Also, if he is doing the physical thing of putting himself flat on the floor, you can make sure your torso is in the right position by the time you're going for the top notes. If you tried to do a move like that coming straight in on a high note, you'd more than likely do yourself some damage. When you have to start a phrase with a very high note, your vocal cords have to be stretched really tight or the note will split. It's also a really tiring thing to do - as someone else has already said, TSMGO is written in an "operatic" style and a lot of the big opera composers use the same device of putting the climax of a song together by making the singer come in at the top of their range. Freddie loved Verdi opera and this is a typical Verdi tactic - I've sung arias where you have to come in on a high C/B to do the final cadenza and they're a bugger. You're often tired by then and if you have any tension in your voice, the note won't work properly. I'm not sure what the high note is at the end of TSMGO (must check it on the piano - I don't have perfect pitch), but it could be just that Adam didn't want it to be hit and miss, so worked out the alternative ending, which sounds great. Sorry, I've rambled a lot. Blame it on me being a Brit... great post!! Love to have you hang around even when your forum is "home again"
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Post by toramenor on Mar 1, 2015 14:39:13 GMT -5
Hi there I'm one of the IDF temporary people, but I just saw this section of the forum. ... Sorry, I've rambled a lot. Blame it on me being a Brit... If you stick around in the Vocal Masterclass threads, you'll soon learn we LOVE long posts from experts - so, please stick around!
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Post by cassie on Mar 1, 2015 15:04:22 GMT -5
Hi there I'm one of the IDF temporary people, but I just saw this section of the forum. ... Sorry, I've rambled a lot. Blame it on me being a Brit... If you stick around in the Vocal Masterclass threads, you'll soon learn we LOVE long posts from experts - so, please stick around! Let me echo this. I love to talk about and read about Adam's voice, technique, approach, artistry. Please add your expertise to our forum. And bring over your thoughts and posts from IDF, if you would. On this thread, you cannot get too technical or too long winded talking about his voice.
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Post by badassalterego on Mar 1, 2015 17:47:53 GMT -5
Ha! I'll remember that. I can spend hours talking about Adam's voice. I only heard Adam for the first time on New Year's Eve, when he did the gig with Queen on the BBC in the UK. I'd already bought some tickets for the QAL tour on the strength of a couple of newspaper reviews that I'd read, but I had no idea who he was. He's got an astonishing voice AND an astonishing technique as well - I've been tweeting manically about it for the last few weeks. I'd better start browsing through the rest of the threads....
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