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Post by tinafea on Aug 6, 2014 8:50:56 GMT -5
What does "Q down" mean for MOhegan Sun 1? The Q was down during the LOGR-SSOR at almost every concert. They also dropped it toward the end of some shows. Sometimes with smoke jets, sometimes without. That Q drop effect was so different over the course of the tour, that I doubt anyone has a good list. *** Adam did a very funny thing at the end of FBGs in Boston (I think) where he started to sing an extra verse, then caught himself and laughed. *** I still have not found or created accurate setlists. The solos and features changed over the course of the tour. I also am not sure if anyone has the bass solos worked out. Like when did "Nevermore" get added, and when did Roger start to announce it? [One of my fav Queen songs.  ] Brian played "Bijou" at one concert during the solo, then dropped it and replaced it with something dark at the beginning for the last few concerts and they changed the light-laser effect. I posted Jablea's list so hopefully we can catch any errors or additions and perhaps get a final list to add to our archives. As she mentioned to me, some of it is taken from tweets because there was no livestream. Hopefully those who attended specific shows add or correct items on the list of shows they attended. At the end of the day I will add anything that is posted. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 8:51:15 GMT -5
We often think Adam doesn't get to perform enough on these type of shows. This tweet is surprising to me! POPDUST @popdust 1m .@maroon5 To Perform On @mtv VMAs For First-Time Ever! shar.es/LOZMW @maroon4tribute @maroon5jp pic.twitter.com/pLyIWSMuAv |
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Post by Q3 on Aug 6, 2014 8:52:59 GMT -5
Another recent cultural appropriation debate: Pharrell wearing a Native American headdress on the recent cover of Time magazine. A music festival in the Northwest has since banned anyone wearing headdresses at the festival. Evidently it's a recent fashion trend and some consider it a disrespectful appropriation. Adam of course was ahead of the curve on this trend and there are photos of him in a headdress going back several years. These situations are really not similar. Pharrell wore a real Sioux war bonnet -- that would be equivalent to wearing a Catholic bishops miter and a purple hneart, Adam wore a headdress loosely based on per-Columbian style that was a piece of artwork. *** White gay men, including Adam, have adopted performance style, vocal style, expressions, style from African American women. Look at Adam performance of STL (thank you Aretha), Tina Turner move from Atlantic City, or his reference to Ms. Thang. But it is not something that only goes one way, and it is not just a white gay thing. Mick Jagger built a lot o his show on copying Tina Turner. Culture advances by moving respectfully and freely. I see nothing that Adam has ever done that was inappropriate. Pharrell f'ed up and did not know what he was wearing but it was not respectful or appropriate. JMHO YMMV. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 9:00:33 GMT -5
Another recent cultural appropriation debate: Pharrell wearing a Native American headdress on the recent cover of Time magazine. A music festival in the Northwest has since banned anyone wearing headdresses at the festival. Evidently it's a recent fashion trend and some consider it a disrespectful appropriation. Adam of course was ahead of the curve on this trend and there are photos of him in a headdress going back several years. These situations are really not similar. Pharrell wore a real Sioux war bonnet -- that would be equivalent to wearing a Catholic bishops miter and a purple hneart, Adam wore a headdress loosely based on per-Columbian style that was a piece of artwork. *** White gay men, including Adam, have adopted performance style, vocal style, expressions, style from African American women. Look at Adam performance of STL (thank you Aretha), Tina Turner move from Atlantic City, or his reference to Ms. Thang. But it is not something that only goes one way, and it is not just a white gay thing. Mick Jagger built a lot o his show on copying Tina Turner. Culture advances by moving respectfully and freely. I see nothing that Adam has ever done that was inappropriate. Pharrell f'ed up and did not know what he was wearing but it was not respectful or appropriate. JMHO YMMV. Actually Mick Jagger, according to the trailer for the new James Brown bio-pic Get on Up, based his moves on James Brown, not Tina Turner. |
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Post by JazzRocks on Aug 6, 2014 9:14:21 GMT -5
PRESSPARTY
Wednesday, August 6, 2014 8:03am by London Newsdesk
Adam Lambert: 'This whole cultural appropriation debate is so 20 years ago'
Adam Lambert has given his thoughts on cultural appropriation.
The term is currently being bandied about in relation to Katy Perry, who has previously dressed up as a geisha, whilst her Egyptian themed 'Dark Horse' video was also criticised.
This prompted singer Lambert into writing on Twitter about cultural appropriation, saying that in today's world cultures are integrating more than ever.
He said: "This whole cultural appropriation debate is so 20 years ago. Our cultures r BLENDING. A new, open minded/hearted generation is on the rise."
More...
www.pressparty.com/pg/newsdesk/adamlambert/view/113155
I wonder how PP knows what was in his mind when he tweeted that. It's a good guess but a guess nonetheless. Twitter of course went crazy as it always does whenever he actually SAYS something with a bit of weight. There were even a couple of really nasty insulting tweets from FANS. This is a complex issue and there are valid opinions on both sides. Not really a discussion that lends itself to 140 character limit. |
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Post by haribert on Aug 6, 2014 9:22:11 GMT -5
As part of an explanation to a friend about why Queen + Adam Lambert was a smash hit and other Queen collaborations were not so much, I was viewing a bunch of Queen Extravaganza performances. What a difference after watching QAL. What a let down. Of course they were not playing arenas, and didn't have a budget for the hoopla that QAL incorporates. But that was not the problem. It was just a bunch of guys (and one girl) standing up on stage doing Queen songs. No costumes, no hip thrusts and ballet turns, no characters and acting, no theatricality, no flamboyance, no showmanship. Boring. Vocally, after hearing Adam sing these songs in performance after performance, so brilliantly, so consistently, so impeccably, I actually cringed at times, and at other times could not continue to listen to the entire song. Admittedly, it wasn't crap. Marc does sound a bit like Freddie at times (tho' he looks like an insurance agent moonlighting as a rock singer), but that does not redeem the performances for me. He sings off pitch at times, he strains for high notes, his voice cracks, his tone is inconsistent , he is just not a great singer. A girl singing the low part of Another One Bites the Dust just sounds and looks all wrong. If you are a fan of Queen's music and enjoy going to live concerts in general, I guess it is an enjoyable night's entertainment. Seeing QAL is another experience all together. Another dimension of (un)reality. I know some folks on ATop don't like it when I or someone else makes comparisons between Adam and other singers. My ears and my mind cannot stop comparing. Sometimes I think we get lulled by Adam's level of performance and degree of excellence vocally and visually. It takes looking and listening to other similar artists or shows in order to appreciate how exceptional QAL is, and what a big part Adam contributes to that. Adam continues to make my jaw drop in amazement. ITA. Last night on "America's Got Talent," a cute and talented indie band (3 teens) took on "Fat Bottomed Girls." As much as I liked the kids -- and they had good voices -- I was cringing because all I could think of was Adam's and Freddie's versions. I guess the kids had guts to try on a Queen song, but I felt embarrassed for them. |
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Post by melliemom on Aug 6, 2014 9:33:00 GMT -5
Direct quote from Katy Perry to RR.She knows the rules are changing, that "cultural appropriation" is increasingly uncool, but she's not thrilled about it. "I guess I'll just stick to baseball and hot dogs, and that's it," she says. "I know that's a quote that's gonna come to fuck me in the ass, but can't you appreciate a culture? I guess, like, everybody has to stay in their lane? I don't know." Read more: www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-unbreakable-katy-perry-inside-rolling-stones-new-issue-20140730#ixzz39cesE849 Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook Adam directly quoted Katy Perry article from RR. |
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Post by bamafan on Aug 6, 2014 9:34:04 GMT -5
Another thing to add to the "Crazy Little List" of unique/one of a kind concert moments....
At MSG during AOBTD after Adam struts very HBIC down the catwalk (I hate that he stopped doing that but guess it got dropped because of the lack luster call and response IDK)....he gets to the end of the catwalk....right next to ME...and says "I CAN'T HEAR YOU NEW YORK......then after a few more "Hey, Hey"s...... "I CAN'T HEAR YOU MOTHER FUCKERS" I thought... OH NO!.. come on MSG crowd! I was screaming at the top of my lungs "BITES IT...BITES IT HARD!" Problem was, I was about the only one around me screaming it. I suppose some folks have a problem with screaming "BITES IT HARD" hehe. Then he called us "MY bitches" in FBG, so that made me happy. LOL I was concerned prior to MSG about how engaged that audience might be. To their credit, they improved as the show went on. |
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Post by melliemom on Aug 6, 2014 9:38:32 GMT -5
Another recent cultural appropriation debate: Pharrell wearing a Native American headdress on the recent cover of Time magazine. A music festival in the Northwest has since banned anyone wearing headdresses at the festival. Evidently it's a recent fashion trend and some consider it a disrespectful appropriation. Adam of course was ahead of the curve on this trend and there are photos of him in a headdress going back several years. These situations are really not similar. Pharrell wore a real Sioux war bonnet -- that would be equivalent to wearing a Catholic bishops miter and a purple hneart, Adam wore a headdress loosely based on per-Columbian style that was a piece of artwork. *** White gay men, including Adam, have adopted performance style, vocal style, expressions, style from African American women. Look at Adam performance of STL (thank you Aretha), Tina Turner move from Atlantic City, or his reference to Ms. Thang. But it is not something that only goes one way, and it is not just a white gay thing. Mick Jagger built a lot o his show on copying Tina Turner. Culture advances by moving respectfully and freely. I see nothing that Adam has ever done that was inappropriate. Pharrell f'ed up and did not know what he was wearing but it was not respectful or appropriate. JMHO YMMV. "Imtation is the greatest form of flattery" Gay culture has certainly been copied in 1970's music and dress. everybody copies from everybody.No big deal IMHO. BTW Adam's Indian headdress was for a Katy Perry party.. Theme Cowboys and Indians.. |
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Post by murly on Aug 6, 2014 9:48:11 GMT -5
I know some folks on ATop don't like it when I or someone else makes comparisons between Adam and other singers. My ears and my mind cannot stop comparing. Sometimes I think we get lulled by Adam's level of performance and degree of excellence vocally and visually. It takes looking and listening to other similar artists or shows in order to appreciate how exceptional QAL is, and what a big part Adam contributes to that. Adam continues to make my jaw drop in amazement. I don't understand how any Adam fan can NOT make comparisons between Adam and other singers, even if it's not a conscious effort to do so. Once you've heard the best, it's hard to settle for the rest! |
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