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Post by theosgma on Sept 7, 2014 13:21:57 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion alert....I get really annoyed by the older fans making themselves SO visible within this fandom. It really does Adam absolutely NO favors for his fan base to be viewed as predominately older females and in the U.S. And that is sadly how his fan base is viewed, rightly or wrongly. I get it, I love Adam too but I am NOT in the demographic that radio seeks so I follow Adam online, I go to his concerts, I buy his music, I discuss him with other fans but I DO NOT advertise my age for everyone to see (and I am only in my early 40s). I don't go to radio events or join contests not aimed for me and I don't go out of my way to "explain" why women of a certain age are fans. i am not saying these ladies shouldn't be fans. They should. Adam loves all his fans and needs them all too but perhaps they could think more about what their constant visibility does to Adam's credibility as a current and relevant pop artist in the industry today and pull back a bit from making everyone so AWARE of them. JMO. I think you girls worry too much about details  I'm male at my late 30s, and if you ask me, I give no shit about fanbase average age and how other see it. It is Adam (and now Adam and Queen) that we support, and it's numbers and great community that makes Glamberts special, not age or sexual preferences. If we can not tolerate each other and only complain about other fans from our own household, how we can call ourself...? ITA Thanks for the post. In many traditions it is said that a sign of growing wisdom is when one looks at another person and sees the similarities before noting the differences. Once the common thread is established (another human being, another Adam fan etc. etc.) the differences can be celebrated and enjoyed.
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Post by Buderschnookie on Sept 7, 2014 13:23:08 GMT -5
I almost find the age topic kind of funny when discussing Adam, given who he just worked with, 65 and 67 year-old legends at the top of their game, more than twice his age. As they say, age is just a number. It just doesn't matter. LOL, so does this make the anti-old lady faction ageists or "mis oldgynists?" You read it, I coined it  Mod edit: This discussion has been closed. Please do not reply
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Post by theosgma on Sept 7, 2014 13:27:12 GMT -5
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Aww!!! I just peeked in before leaving for the day and saw this twirling Adam from you Chapf!! Adam getting his Tina Turner groove on! OMG! I love it!! Thank you!!  BBL. Do we have a library museum thread for Chapf's masterpieces? |
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Post by glamnut on Sept 7, 2014 13:27:44 GMT -5
glitter - yes this is an unpopular opinion! Especially for me  A fan should be a fan without thinking: am I too old? Am I pretty enough? Am I tall enough? I know that Adam's fandom often is viewed as older women (sparkle cows  ) - but whoever is a fan, is a fan and you can make yourself visible how much you want. JMO I am visibly going to Katy Perry in 1 1/2 weeks and I don't give a fuck how old I am! SpinDanceWhy should I care about it in relation to Adam. Nothing any of us can do about false perceptions. Adam's audiences are very diverse. Adam's cred is so high right now, it doesn't matter! LOL! Remember, almost all the reviewers assumed the young fans at QAL were Adam's fans! ETA: Adam even told his fans what to wear to the QAL concerts, so personally, I don't think he gives a fuck about how visible we are either!  The older fans have supported Adam from the beginning. WE are the foundation! Without us he wouldn't have had such a strong first tour. We have always been there for him through thick and thin. I think he is really proud to have us as his fans!!!! Mod edit: This discussion has been closed. Please do not reply
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Post by cassie on Sept 7, 2014 13:37:03 GMT -5
Stepping in with my mod hat on.
Rule #4 of ATop says" Never question anyone's right to post, the appropriateness of a topic or define the proper way for an Adam fan or Adamtopia Member to behave. Let the moderators do their job."
The topic of fan demographics and "sparkle cows" comes up every so often here. The discussion results in violations of this rule more often than not. I am not saying members should not have their own concerns and opinions about Adam's fan base. I am saying this is not the appropriate place to discuss it because it ends up seeming as if posters are either telling other fans how to behave, or telling other fans what to post and not post here. Either way, it does not follow Rule #4.
I am closing this topic of discussion and will delete any further posts. Let's move on to other topics. (I still need input on the best versions of each song in the set list - over in the vocal masterclass. That should keep us all down the rabbit hole for quite a while.)
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Post by FanOfTheMan on Sept 7, 2014 13:40:31 GMT -5
Trespassing would have been bulletproof cohesive if it hadn't been for NCOE and, in lesser degree, BTIKM. It has a clean lyrical and sound line progressing from lightness to darkness, from interpersonal to intrapersonal, from upbeat songs to ballads. I don't know any other album with such brilliant and intelligent structure, (again if we disregard those two songs). Its cohesive elements are multileveled and they give a very strong philosophical note to the whole album, and that note elevates the otherwise very autobiographical atmosphere to a more relatable one.
Plus, his voice:))))ETA/// If sticking to one genre is the only way an album achieves cohesion, I pity that artist and that album. A bit late to the board: An early personal review of FYE was appreciating the diversity of the music...loved moving from one style to another, often repeating a track depending on my mood. Trespassing offered a deeper view of Adam and I've been entranced with his musical vision. Upbeat to heartbreaking and all the moods in between. I have favorites but they often change ... I've repeated TFM lead to the high,sustaining note over a million times and never get tired of the beauty of AL's voice! The Queen collab has been a dream; rock, pop, funk, bluesy riffs, and the glorious clarity of Love Kills and WWTLF. Covered the spectrum...no box...something for everyone.
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Post by eri9 on Sept 7, 2014 13:43:01 GMT -5
This has just been uploaded .... awesome Killer Queen / STL / IWIA Video from final Auckland concert.
This was my view! Was filmed by friend standing next to me. Apologies for all the screaming! Lol.
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Post by cassie on Sept 7, 2014 13:57:36 GMT -5
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Post by LindaG23 on Sept 7, 2014 13:58:17 GMT -5
The Irish have a word -- Seanachie (shawn-a-key) that means storyteller. That means a person who entertains not only with words but by creating an experience, an entire alternate world that exists alongside of this one. Adam Lambert is a seanachie. We can run away from the stories he tells or the mirror he holds up in front of us ("I'll be your mirror" -- remember?). What do you see? We can edit our narratives and make them tiny because of the passage of time, or the dreams that died in failure years ago, or even because inside we're still just the same scared and lonely kid we always were, a kid who found escape in music even though even back then we weren't the least bit cool, just fat and acne-scarred and in sad possession of offbeat tastes that we clung doggedly to for reasons unknown, so that no one in a position of authority would have given a damn about us or whether we ever got a happy ending. OR, at long freaking last, we could turn to a fun, fascinating, loving, and inclusive pied piper who invited us to go on a magic carpet ride with him -- yes! even us! - "no matter what other people think." Someone with the power to bring back that long ago feeling that -- because of his music, because of his unapologetic weirdness, because he's "standing here with no apologies" -- that even in this screwed up sad old world, we are never alone. That maybe tonight we're taking over the town. People like to talk a lot about Adam's backup singers or lack there of. But the thing is, as a seanachie, Adam is the backup singer. He's the backup singer for us. Because the only voice we can give to our narrative is ultimately our own. And because of this, we are free. He just puts the steel in our spines. Thanks, Adam. - I love this. I have never heard the term Seanachie and I think it so applies to Adam. I may not be a deep thoughtful person but I have always loved the concept of storyteller and how it has been portrayed through time from a keeper of cultural truth or mythos to bringer of individual histories. There is no doubt that the person or time of which storytellers tell, is anything like the actual story or time. And as you said, we write our own stories and mine has definitely been embellished over time in ways that give me pleasure. It is my truth. Also, Adam is a definitely a featured back-up singer in my tale. PS, thank you for telling me how to pronounce Seanachie.  |
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Post by adammm on Sept 7, 2014 14:01:26 GMT -5
The Irish have a word -- Seanachie (shawn-a-key) that means storyteller. That means a person who entertains not only with words but by creating an experience, an entire alternate world that exists alongside of this one. Adam Lambert is a seanachie. We can run away from the stories he tells or the mirror he holds up in front of us ("I'll be your mirror" -- remember?). What do you see? We can edit our narratives and make them tiny because of the passage of time, or the dreams that died in failure years ago, or even because inside we're still just the same scared and lonely kid we always were, a kid who found escape in music even though even back then we weren't the least bit cool, just fat and acne-scarred and in sad possession of offbeat tastes that we clung doggedly to for reasons unknown, so that no one in a position of authority would have given a damn about us or whether we ever got a happy ending. OR, at long freaking last, we could turn to a fun, fascinating, loving, and inclusive pied piper who invited us to go on a magic carpet ride with him -- yes! even us! - "no matter what other people think." Someone with the power to bring back that long ago feeling that -- because of his music, because of his unapologetic weirdness, because he's "standing here with no apologies" -- that even in this screwed up sad old world, we are never alone. That maybe tonight we're taking over the town. People like to talk a lot about Adam's backup singers or lack there of. But the thing is, as a seanachie, Adam is the backup singer. He's the backup singer for us. Because the only voice we can give to our narrative is ultimately our own. And because of this, we are free. He just puts the steel in our spines. Thanks, Adam. - I love this. I have never heard the term Seanachie and I think it so applies to Adam. I may not be a deep thoughtful person but I have always loved the concept of storyteller and how it has been portrayed through time from a keeper of cultural truth or mythos to bringer of individual histories. There is no doubt that the person or time of which storytellers tell, is anything like the actual story or time. And as you said, we write our own stories and mine has definitely been embellished over time in ways that give me pleasure. It is my truth. Also, Adam is a definitely a featured back-up singer in my tale. PS, thank you for telling me how to pronounce Seanachie. here you go, more details en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seancha%C3%ADA seanchaí ([ˈʃan̪ˠəxiː] or [ʃan̪ˠəˈxiː] - plural: seanchaithe [ˈʃan̪ˠəxɪhɪ]) |
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