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Post by cassie on Jun 17, 2014 16:53:41 GMT -5
So, cassie... what's happening at 2:58-2:59?? Is Adam slightly off-key, or is he actually CHANGING keys here? Key change. A little shaky and awkward, but I am sure they will go back and perfect it before the next show. |
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Post by maitospf on Jun 17, 2014 22:19:19 GMT -5
It was beautiful. It made me cry.
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Post by bridgeymah on Jun 18, 2014 2:03:38 GMT -5
Key change. A little shaky and awkward, but I am sure they will go back and perfect it before the next show. Good ear on Adam's part for the key change tho, 2:54-2:57 he's emphasizing A naturals over the A major chord, but then when that chord outside the key at 2:58 (F sharp major - perfect cadence into B major) comes in he stresses A sharp which is a "new" note. Or maybe Freddie does the exact same thing in the original too I haven't heard it in a while  Amazing ear when you consider that reports are that his ear pieces weren't working properly throughout the performance and that the wires were disconnected from his pac at one point... #what #alien |
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Post by Craazyforadam on Jun 18, 2014 12:12:44 GMT -5
Cassie, thanks for your wonderful vocal review. You said everything that I was thinking and then some. Gave me quite some additional insights to think about.
I actually liked the key change, both steps starting at 2:54 and hope they stay. It is a very dramatic song, sure, and every change like that adds to the build. It is Freddie, it is allowed to be that way. I am just fine with it.
The only note correction, or at least I think it is one, I hear Adam make is at 3:14 in video above, but the good news is, by standing next to Brian, he had a chance to correct quickly. Or maybe that was intentional too, who knows.
I am so in love with Adam's lower register, it's new strength. It always had warmth, it always was rich, but now it is stronger and that is a beautiful thing to see. When Cassie always said that tenor voices only reach their peak mid-thirty, I think we are seeing that ascent in progress, right in front of our ears. Beautiful.
Adam seemed to have quite a bit of sound difficulties during this concert, and his way to calibrate was often to walk over to Brian. You can see him do it throughout the concert. I found it most apparent during WATC. Adam is a tad flat for a while, in a way that clearly indicates inability to hear, because it is impossible to be stay consistent like that, if you do hear. He then walks over to Brian, who does a guitar solo and then Adam comes in again, clear as a bell, and perfect pitch.
I do hope, they can sort out, whatever plagued him here.
And yes, I am in absolute awe and complete disbelief, how he could actually deliver the performance he did, if he could not hear properly. I am not even clear on how that works at all, for that matter. But that WATC passage is clear proof to me that he was truly not able to hear.
So, I am just blown away by everything I am hearing and so excited for tomorrow.
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Post by rihannsu on Jun 18, 2014 12:34:12 GMT -5
I think that the main reason he is able to sing so well even when he can't hear properly is precisely because of the superb technique he has. Because from what I understand especially from things Angelina has said is that truly proper technique is more about feeling the notes than hearing them. One of the things I remember reading in that book I posted the link to when I glanced at the beginning was the comment that because the sound of your own voice in your head is different than what others hear and because of things that can interfere with how your voice sounds to you it is extremely important to learn to feel the proper pitch rather than hear it.
This makes sense to me as it must be related to how the deaf and partially deaf can still learn to speak properly. How well they are able to do depends on how much work they put into learning I would think. Because Adam has put so many years in to developing proper technique when he is off it is usually not by much and he can also correct it quickly when he realizes it. He truly sings with his entire body, not just the vocal cords.
I also think that the reason he has more trouble with in-ears than most is precisely because he uses such technique. I remember The Edge from U2 talking about his trials with getting good fit on his in-ears saying that certain notes and techniques require shifting your jaw around and as you do that it affects the shape of your ear canal so the molded in ears will shift. Edge does a lot of high harmonies and falsetto backings to Bono's vocals and he talked about how getting up in to the higher ranges shifts how you are positioning your jaw and will often dislodge the in-ears. The trick is getting a mold that is soft enough to flex with your ear canal but still stay in position. He mentioned that even with the best available out there he still cannot get through a concert without them shifting. Adam plays in a much wider range than Edge does and is singing lead not background so he is moving up and down the scale much more dramatically and more often so it doesn't surprise me at all that he has a problem with his in-ears moving around so much.
A lot of other singers with poorer technique often seem to barely move their jaws at all so probably don't have this issue.
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Post by Craazyforadam on Jun 18, 2014 17:28:07 GMT -5
TY, Rihannsu. Makes sense. Means that he will always have to touch his ears and re-adjust the ear piece after a few high notes or other parts that move the ear piece around, at least until the technology is improved further. What surprises me though is how often instead of dislodging itself, the problem rather seems to be that he cannot hear anymore, no matter how he tries to re-adjust it within the ear. That seems to be a different problem to me, wouldn't it?
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Post by rihannsu on Jun 18, 2014 20:11:53 GMT -5
TY, Rihannsu. Makes sense. Means that he will always have to touch his ears and re-adjust the ear piece after a few high notes or other parts that move the ear piece around, at least until the technology is improved further. What surprises me though is how often instead of dislodging itself, the problem rather seems to be that he cannot hear anymore, no matter how he tries to re-adjust it within the ear. That seems to be a different problem to me, wouldn't it? I don't think it's that often that there is a major problem with him hearing. This kind of major failure isn't that common. Most often he seems to tweak the mix a lot and that may be simply that he likes different instruments louder or softer depending on the song. Since someone mentioned that at one point the wires were completely pulled out of the transmitter pack he might have not even known that and been trying to fix the problem by adjusting the controls which are on the pack behind his back. That's why it looked like he was putting his hand in his back pocket. He kept trying to adjust but maybe it was due to loose connection which eventually pulled out completely and not adjustment. These things happen as well as equipment failures and such even when things are diligently checked out before hand. Sometimes they just stop working. A lot of this equipment is wireless and there can sometimes be unexpected interference with the frequencies. Murphy's Law that things will usually go wrong at the worst possible times. I learned a bit about this following U2 because Bono is pretty picky about his mix as well but he has the advantage of having the same main sound guy (best in the business) having been with him from the late 70's. They have an almost psychic connection and Joe plays Bono's in-ear mix like an instrument. He can just watch Bono's body language and adjust on the fly. Some enterprising U2 fans figured out how to track the frequency's of the band's in-ear monitors and were able to record audio of concerts of the feeds that they were getting in their in-ears. Larry (drummer) likes the full band mix and uses a mariachi sound for his click track so it makes for a great clean concert recording. So there was always lots of discussion on the U2 boards about various sound issues. Made for a great learning experience. Concert sound is way more complicated than most people realize. |
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Post by red panda on Jun 21, 2014 9:12:49 GMT -5
Throwing this out to our resident experts:
This tour set is one long night for a singer, right? I have no doubt that Adam can handle this, but it is an awful lot of singing, could you share some of the ways he could keep his voice in top form for all these shows? I'm wondering if he would have to use the vocal rest technique that I have heard the AI contestants talk about. Or the ministrations of a vocal doctor. Or if he is just so trained and skilled that he might not have to do anything out of the ordinary. Again, fascinated with the underpinnings of his talent. Thank you!
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Post by franki13 on Jun 22, 2014 0:50:49 GMT -5
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Post by nic42 on Jun 23, 2014 14:57:34 GMT -5
For all music geeks that want to know a bit more about these beautiful songs that Adam gets to sing: www.queensongs.info/the-book/introduction.htmlIt contains analysis of the songs of Queen, melodies, rhythm, songwriting, piano sheets and much much more. |
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