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Post by crispy on Feb 24, 2012 0:23:54 GMT -5
GAWD... I FRIGGIN' LOVE WHO WANTS TO LIVE FOREVER!! So here's how I would open the set at Sonisphere: start with Adam singing Who Wants to Live Forever a cappella, while they show images of Freddie on the big screen. Acknowledge the elephant in the room that says that yes, he was the best, and then blast into the chorus of The Show Must Go On. Lights come up full on Adam and Queen, and then he does whatever the fuck he wants for the rest of the set. Respect is paid, and even the biggest Queen fans will have to admit that he's honoring him, not trying to replace him. And then all 65,000 people buy a copy of Trespassing, which I hope to God is out by then. This would be perfect! I can see it in my mind clearly. |
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Post by cassie on Feb 24, 2012 1:13:33 GMT -5
Cassie - At the moment I am hooked on Adam's Leno performance of BTIKM. His last two high notes seem to be the same pitch, but the second seems brighter somehow. Is that true or my imagination? What note is he singing? As beautiful as he is to watch, I really prefer to just listen to this - going, going, gone down the rabbit hole... BTW, I haven't been to Lambossed's site for a while. Love her comments, as well as her selection of performances. Scroll down to find the Leno perfomance. www.adamlambertobsession.blogspot.com/ Thanks for including the link. Those are Eb5s, a step and a half higher than the top note tenor high C. The first is sung with a straight tone - no vibrato. the second adds vibrato as the backing drops out, leaving just the brilliance of that note. Such power. And, I agree. Sometimes I have to close my eyes to let the sound envelop me completely without visual distractions. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2012 11:34:48 GMT -5
Cassie, I love when you talk opera vs pop, range, tone, and Adams voice in general. One of my bucket lists, which I have no control over, is to hear Adam sing opera and not just any aria but Nessun Dorma. I've only fanned over one other singer in my life and that was Pavarotti. Of course that meant buying his cd/record and reading about him when I happened across an article! Not this obsessive behavior I exhibit now! youtu.be/VATmgtmR5o4 |
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Post by Holst on Feb 24, 2012 14:51:23 GMT -5
It's possible to add rasp without damaging your throat, the problem is most people tend to tense up in the throat to add the rasp. The way to do it without damaging is to bring more air "above" the cords so that the false cords push inwards, they're above the regular cords, thicker, and don't really function in the same way, pushing them inwards merely "distorts" what comes from the cords below, but without damaging either set of cords at all. You can really feel this grit in the soft palette in the back of the throat if you just sustain a fry note, merely a matter of combining that with regular singing. I THINK that's what Adam is doing lately, and he certainly does it on this WLL. Listen from 3:29 , thanks so much for telling me about this. I had no idea there were false cords. I did a little internet research. I now understand that adding rasp can be done carefully, but I still don't understand how a person does it. I'm afraid I wouldn't know tight-throat rasp from false cord rasp. I tried experimenting in the car yesterday--glad no one else could hear it. Very confusing. Nevertheless, I still would like to hear Adam's pure tone in these gentle acoustic versions. My taste. |
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Post by lambo on Feb 24, 2012 17:15:23 GMT -5
NationalGlampoon, thanks so much for telling me about this. I had no idea there were false cords. I did a little internet research. I now understand that adding rasp can be done carefully, but I still don't understand how a person does it. I'm afraid I wouldn't know tight-throat rasp from false cord rasp. I tried experimenting in the car yesterday--glad no one else could hear it. Very confusing. Nevertheless, I still would like to hear Adam's pure tone in these gentle acoustic versions. My taste. Glad I could help! Yes it's a bit confusing, took me a while to work it out myself. Lots of trial and error. And by the way, I also prefer the pure tone! cassie, adding on to your post, two of my favourite Adam high C's www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA1YcBLHv_k&noredirect=1(Pick U Up) 3:09, this one I find very impressive given the vowel, "ee" is not an easy vowel to sing a high note on, and even harder to sustain a note at that pitch in full on. With vibrato no less! www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_f7VKE8bfI&noredirect=1(Is Anybody Listening?) 4:15, just brilliant, almost operatic! As for his highest full voice note, I would say it is this At 4:29, G above high C! Sounds very much like full voice to me. |
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Post by stardust on Feb 24, 2012 17:55:01 GMT -5
Cassie or NG,
I was watching the EMA video that apparently some Queen fans have been checking out. There are a few nasty posts but most were reasonable. Some didn't like his music but thought he did okay. Some complained about the vibrato and I listened again, and it did sound like he used more vibrato than he usually does. Is that because he was singing full-out and loud?
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Post by chameleon on Feb 24, 2012 18:06:00 GMT -5
Cassie or NG, I was watching the EMA video that apparently some Queen fans have been checking out. There are a few nasty posts but most were reasonable. Some didn't like his music but thought he did okay. Some complained about the vibrato and I listened again, and it did sound like he used more vibrato than he usually does. Is that because he was singing full-out and loud? I was just coming here to say the same thing. I wondered if it was his way of honouring Freddie's style? I just listened to several Queen songs and Freddie did use quite a bit of vibrato. Adam certainly used quite a bit more then we're used to hearing from him, particularly in TSMGO. I do love Adam's tone and phrasing so much more than Freddie's but I thought Adam sounded just the tiniest bit 'goaty' in parts (please don't stone me!). Having said that the whole performance just blew me away and I can't wait to hear what he does at Sonsisphere. Would love to hear an expert opinion re the vibrato. |
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Post by cassie on Feb 24, 2012 19:45:44 GMT -5
Cassie or NG, I was watching the EMA video that apparently some Queen fans have been checking out. There are a few nasty posts but most were reasonable. Some didn't like his music but thought he did okay. Some complained about the vibrato and I listened again, and it did sound like he used more vibrato than he usually does. Is that because he was singing full-out and loud? I was just coming here to say the same thing. I wondered if it was his way of honouring Freddie's style? I just listened to several Queen songs and Freddie did use quite a bit of vibrato. Adam certainly used quite a bit more then we're used to hearing from him, particularly in TSMGO. I do love Adam's tone and phrasing so much more than Freddie's but I thought Adam sounded just the tiniest bit 'goaty' in parts (please don't stone me!). Having said that the whole performance just blew me away and I can't wait to hear what he does at Sonsisphere. Would love to hear an expert opinion re the vibrato. I, too, noticed the vibrato on TSMGO. I am not sure why Adam chose to use it as he did, but there is no question that it was a CHOICE. Adam has complete control over his vibrato and can sing a note completely straight (no vibrato) with just a touch of vibrato, with a broad vibrato, or with a narrow one. Yesterday, I was listening to Adam's performance of WATC on AI and the EMAs and comparing it to Freddie's in several performances. I also compared various WWRY performances and Adam's TSMGO compared to Freddie's studio version. Freddie had a very distinctive and noticeable vibrato. It was fast, slightly waivering and almost trembing at times on sustained notes. Adam's actually did resemble Freddie's in TSMGO, but with a bit more consistency or control. I decided that Adam, while not trying to imitate Freddie, was singing that way to reference Freddie in an homage. What do others think? |
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Post by Holst on Feb 25, 2012 0:12:38 GMT -5
NationalGlampoon, is adding the rasp using false chords mainly a male thing like falsetto? Or can women do it too?
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Post by lambo on Feb 25, 2012 7:56:42 GMT -5
NationalGlampoon, is adding the rasp using false chords mainly a male thing like falsetto? Or can women do it too? Women can do it too! Here's a video of a man teaching it to a woman, might shed some more light www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCw8ZM9UbfM |
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