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Post by butterknife on Jul 22, 2014 21:09:02 GMT -5
Dancy, I thought for a second that I was hearing that chipmunk sound, twice. Like, the frequency was really high. like the speakers were about to get blown up.
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Jul 22, 2014 21:15:44 GMT -5
Dancy, I thought for a second that I was hearing that chipmunk sound, twice. Like, the frequency was really high. like the speakers were about to get blown up. That sounds like a problem with the frequency response of the equipment rather than a problem with Adam's voice. And you were standing in front of the big speakers, both close to the on-stage monitor speaker. Likely a different balance of sounds than elsewhere in the venue. |
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Post by butterknife on Jul 22, 2014 21:23:00 GMT -5
Dancy, I thought for a second that I was hearing that chipmunk sound, twice. Like, the frequency was really high. like the speakers were about to get blown up. That sounds like a problem with the frequency response of the equipment rather than a problem with Adam's voice. And you were standing in front of the big speakers, both close to the on-stage monitor speaker. Likely a different balance of sounds than elsewhere in the venue. No, Dancy. You know what. The big speakers were BEHIND me. So I was not very happy at the beginning for not being able to hear Adam's voice loud enough for me. All I could hear clearly enough were instruments. So when WWTLF happened, it went so well until that high frequency hit me. I was all baffled. I don't think it was the speaker problem nor cracks in his vocals. I now think it was his vocal controlling problem, he oversang it twice. He sang these notes sharp not squarely. |
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Post by pi on Jul 22, 2014 23:04:17 GMT -5
 Shhhhh. I am hiding my post here in the vocal thread where most folks won't see it. But I have to ask, did anyone else hear what I heard on WWTLF at Meriweather last night? Did Adam's voice actually crack twice on the power notes? I know, I know, he is practically perfect and has a voice from heaven. But, last night could be definitive proof that he is in fact only human.
I probably should not mention such a thing, but, I figure if I am going to rave about how incredible his technique and performances are at points, it only seems fair to point out when he bobbles the ball a little. If for no other reason than to prove that I CAN be objective about the guy.
So, please review (sorry it is not a great video). youtu.be/zcCJ2K1DeDo The two notes are at 2:00 and 3:30. What do you think?
I heard those notes too and was wondering whether it was actually his voice or something to do with the feed from his mic. I don't know the actual terminology, but the notes sounded a little flat(?) to me.. but then I thought maybe the notes over powered the mic and blew out the sound and it just sounded that way? Anyway, I was curious about those two notes as well... |
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Jul 22, 2014 23:05:18 GMT -5
That sounds like a problem with the frequency response of the equipment rather than a problem with Adam's voice. And you were standing in front of the big speakers, both close to the on-stage monitor speaker. Likely a different balance of sounds than elsewhere in the venue. No, Dancy. You know what. The big speakers were BEHIND me. So I was not very happy at the beginning for not being able to hear Adam's voice loud enough for me. All I could hear clearly enough were instruments. So when WWTLF happened, it went so well until that high frequency hit me. I was all baffled. I don't think it was the speaker problem nor cracks in his vocals. I now think it was his vocal controlling problem, he oversang it twice. He sang these notes sharp not squarely. OOPS, I used the wrong wording. I used "front" as in relative to me. But with respect to where the sound is coming out of the speaker it would be "behind" the speaker, which is the normal terminology. If it was just a sharp note, then I would not expect it to be hearing the kinds of descriptions that people are giving it. There is a whole lot of signal processing going on and not with just the mics and speakers. They do all kinds of sound amplifications and mixing that can be affected by a whole host of parameters that vary from venue to venue. The sound engineer is constantly trying to adjust for these parameters and an incorrect adjustment could cause sound issues at certain frequencies. |
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Post by pi on Jul 22, 2014 23:14:01 GMT -5
You may be right that what I am hearing is some strange poltergeist in the sound system. I talked to smokeyvera who attended the concert. She said the venue SUCKED and the sound wasn't good. I asked her about WWTLF and she said his voice definitely did NOT crack. She said he was on fire all evening. Whew that is a relief. Of course, then I am back to "He is not human!" Ahh so glad to hear it wasn't his voice! It's odd re the sound, because I thought I read elsewhere that the sound was really good there.. |
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Jul 22, 2014 23:38:25 GMT -5
You may be right that what I am hearing is some strange poltergeist in the sound system. I talked to smokeyvera who attended the concert. She said the venue SUCKED and the sound wasn't good. I asked her about WWTLF and she said his voice definitely did NOT crack. She said he was on fire all evening. Whew that is a relief. Of course, then I am back to "He is not human!" Ahh so glad to hear it wasn't his voice! It's odd re the sound, because I thought I read elsewhere that the sound was really good there.. The sound was really good where I was sitting at the Merriweather - best of any of the concerts that I have been too. But apparently the sound quality varies widely over the venue. |
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Post by pi on Jul 23, 2014 1:32:33 GMT -5
Ahh so glad to hear it wasn't his voice! It's odd re the sound, because I thought I read elsewhere that the sound was really good there.. The sound was really good where I was sitting at the Merriweather - best of any of the concerts that I have been too. But apparently the sound quality varies widely over the venue. Hmm now I'm confused.. so cassie thinks it's now the voice, but you and some others don't?  |
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Jul 23, 2014 2:18:02 GMT -5
The sound was really good where I was sitting at the Merriweather - best of any of the concerts that I have been too. But apparently the sound quality varies widely over the venue. Hmm now I'm confused.. so cassie thinks it's now the voice, but you and some others don't? I'm not sure what everyone else thinks, but I think it was not his voice or at least not just his voice. But, what I can do when I get a chance is use some fancy software to look at the frequency spectrum of that note in my audio recording and see what shows up. That might give some indication. But about the sound quality in the venue in general, different people seem to have a different opinion. This is likely because the sound quality can vary from location to location in the same venue. Where I was in the Merriweather venue, and I had THE BEST SEAT in the house - 1st row in from of the tip of the thrust, the sound was awesome all night!!! I heard a number of people say that the sound at the Mohegan Sun venue was better than at the MSG, but not for me. I was 3rd row on the lower riser level at MSG and half way up in the very upper riser level at Mohegan Sun. At Mohegan Sun, I was getting the sound bouncing off of the walls and ceiling while at the MSG the sound did not have this problem where I was sitting. At the MSG, the sound problems I heard had to do with too much echo delay on the mic. So, as in real-estate, LOCATION in a venue matters when determining the sound quality! |
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