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Post by cassie on Dec 21, 2011 2:03:17 GMT -5
Does anyone else miss the "brighter" tone Adam used to use? Especially around Idol time? His voice has sounded much darker and weighty since GNT, and I can't work out why for the life of me! I certainly have noticed the difference. But, I like the slightly darker tone. I don't exactly hear it as dark, but, rather as more round. He seems to have found more of the lower harmonics in his body and is incorporating them into his tone. It makes the tone sound more mellow and rich, to me. More mature, maybe? It could just be the natural maturing of his voice, as male voices continue to mature until about the mid-thirties. |
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Post by cassie on Dec 21, 2011 2:10:04 GMT -5
[/img] Also, I had no idea where to put this, but I wanted to show you my favorite contestant from The Voice - Romania and I wanted you all to tell me what do you think of him and his voice. I have no musical knowledge, but I love how his presence and voice make me feel. It's not close to what I feel when I hear Adam, but it is something. So, what do you think? [/quote] Thanks for posting. What a character! As to his voice, it certainly has a much different tone than Adam's. this guy places the tones and the resonance at the very back of his mouth and throat, almost like he is swallowing it. Adam, on the other hand, aims the tone forward and up into the mask of his face. You get a totally different quality, more ringing and bright, vs. this guy who has a duller, darker tone. He also sounds very different when he bounces up to a brief falsetto. The difference in the tone from chest to false is jarring. Adam does it seamlessly. It comes down to what sound or tone you prefer, which may have to do with how it resonates within your own body. |
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Post by cassie on Dec 21, 2011 2:18:09 GMT -5
I was surfing the tube y'day to relive my memories of EMA and I came across this cover of TSMGO ver. EMA. I really like how he made the song his own and that he did it a way to suit his voice. I like the tone of his voice too...Don't quite know how to describe it...it sounded sweet to me. :-[ Was hoping the experts here would be able to analyze and give their comments on this kid. Thanks Well, that was a surprise. A pleasant one. He does have a very sweet, tone to his voice. And he hits the notes without strain. The voice sounds very young to me. Light, almost like a boy's voice that has not yet changed. Adam has some of that light sweetness to his voice in that range at times. However, he can also add a rich, powerful chest resonance in as well. It gives his voice more heft, more muscle, more authority. Thanks for bringing this over. |
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Post by cassie on Dec 21, 2011 2:26:25 GMT -5
This cover of BTIKM was posted in the 12.20 daily thread. I listened to it... the guy does a more than decent job, IMO. But, I found Adam's version much more satisfying. It felt better. I thought it would be interesting for folks to compare the two versions, a verse or a chorus at a time, going back and forth between the two. Ignore the instrument backing, and concentrate on the voice. How would you describe each? What is the difference you hear? What is your visceral reaction to each? If you all chime in on your reactions, it might help define what it is about Adam's voice that draws us in so much. Or help us to understand why some people do not hear that special something we hear in Adam's voice. Give it a try. I 'd love to read your responses. |
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Post by justkaren on Dec 21, 2011 2:49:34 GMT -5
Aargghh! I had a response all ready to post in the dead thread, and then managed somehow to delete it. I'll try to remember what I said.
I had to listen with my eyes closed, because the expressions and the out-of-sync voice were very distracting. While the voice isn't bad, it just didn't connect with me emotionally. In the very beginning, it sounds like he is more concerned with copying pronunciation than in expressing emotion. And at 39: and 1:45, "if I wanted to go, I'd have left ..." he sounded more angry than pleading/repentant. The mood changes seemed abrupt rather than progressive.
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Post by kryptoman68 on Dec 21, 2011 3:13:00 GMT -5
Hi Cassie, I too had to close my eyes while listening (mostly due to eye strain from reading all the BTIKM news, plus I work on the computer for a living  ), and here is the image that came to my mind while checking out the audio: Imagine an NBA basketball field. Now imagine a 7 feet tall giant professional player slamming ball after ball through the hoop. That would be Adam. Now enters a 5 feet tall guys and tries to do the exactly same moves. He has skills, especially in the dribbling, but lacks god-given height. He strains and it shows. He reaches for the hoop and gets angry in the process, although his ball still goes through nearly each time...but with lots of effort. That's that YT guy. Lowering the key (and the baskteball board) significantly would have helped him express more feelings on his own playing field. The verses were ok, but the chorus was just too high for him to be comfortable, IMVHO. |
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Post by eri9 on Dec 21, 2011 3:43:13 GMT -5
If I hadn't heard Adam sing it, I probably would have thought it was great! BUT.... The tone of voice is completely different - the only way I can think to describe it is that his voice is more "trebley" sounding, whereas Adam has far more depth and resonance. It did prove to me that I do actually love the song itself - he certainly wasn't unpleasant to listen to, but nowhere in Adam's league. Again, it just goes to show what an incredible vocalist Adam is- every single syllable he sings has feeling.....reaches into your soul - can't explain it, and have given up trying!! ;D I hope to make more regular contributions to this board - keep meaning to make myself known here! I have a background in music with some singing training - I am a very average singer (not being modest, just realistic  ) But I do have a good "musical ear" with relevant pitch and I LOVE LOVE LOVE harmonies and harmonising. Have worked out harmonies for many of Adam's songs including Mad World, Broken Open, Outlaws of Love.... So you can probably imagine how much I adore this song with all its fantastic vocal layerings.....the 2nd half of the bridge is just perfection. Actually not that complex harmonies - quite formulaic actually, but they just sound divine!!! Adam singing a trio with himself - what could be better?!!! ;D As for those wanting to hear Adam sing more classical - opera or musical theatre, that is my dream too. I grew up around opera (Dad is/was a very good operatic bass) and I have played "CTMBTM" several times to his singer friends- obviously they have been totally impressed each time! Not convinced they'd like the rock/pop stuff so much tho! Sorry for the long post, but hope to comment here more often - can never get enough discussion about the voice of the most amazing singer I have ever heard! |
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Post by seoulmate on Dec 21, 2011 4:28:06 GMT -5
Oh, dear. Well, I've already stated elsewhere that I don't like BTIKM for all the same reasons catz gave. It hurts my ears, which is also why I can't listen to Can't Let You Go (also for all the reasons catz gave!) : I just can't listen to it = it's almost like nails on a chalkboard. And I have analyzed this phenomenon ad nauseum, and have decided it's the high, sort of strident chorus that makes me wince... And the wincing comes from the repetitive high pitch of it, then an extra wince comes from that extra high note at the end of the chorus on "myseeeeeeeelf..." Here's the thing: I timed the various sections of the song. If you eliminate the 12-second instrumental intro, and the 12-second ending, there's about 3:13 minutes of actual singing time = 193 seconds. And of that 193 seconds, approx. 100 seconds is chorus = more than half the song. (each chorus is about 25 seconds, and it's repeated four times during the song) And the ear-rattling chorus is what makes my brain cells whimper and my ears cringe. So, basically, I can't listen to the song because it hurts. Sigh. And, Cassie... the cover song is interesting. The guy's voice is not too shabby. I found I could listen to the chorus a teensy weensy bit longer than I can Adam's version, but I think that's because the cover guy doesn't have the same power so he can't belt out the repetitive high-pitched chorus at the same decibels as Adam. LOL Yeah, I'm pathetic, but there you go. ETA: and I was just thinking.... I can take Adam's amazing rock wails, where he goes way higher than the chorus of BTIKM. In fact, those rock wails that head up into the stratosphere are one of the things that made me fall madly in love with him in the first place. Go figure. It's just the chorus of BTIKM that my ears and brain are rebelling against. It's a mystery to me. |
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Post by nica575 on Dec 21, 2011 10:03:28 GMT -5
I listened to the cover only once (almost the whole length - did not hear the last 40 secs)... My reaction: - had to close my eyes as well :-[ (I am very visual and wanted to concentrate on the sound only). - the voice is too "narrow" , does not have the fullness/roundness/depth of Adam's voice , it is too "sharp" for my ear... in other words - all the reasons why I don't enjoy non-classical singing is present and that is why I could not make it thru the whole song (but, hey, I made it past my usual 20 seconds mark ) Back to Adam: I CAN"T WAIT TO HEAR THE ACOUSTIC PERFORMANCE! CAN"T WAIT! Having said that - I downloaded from AO, and I was blown away by the vast difference in tone, clarity, harmonies and the "hearbeat"-thumping as compared to the "leaked" versions... IMO, anyone who says that this is the "same" commercial stuff playing on the radio needs to listen a few times more to appreciate... |
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Post by iceish on Dec 21, 2011 10:50:06 GMT -5
I am gonna to give my first attempt on this thread, this is based on someone listen to Pop all the time. What I like about the YTguy is the interpretation of the song and he can sing in tune. I like the OTT angst tone which drive me more into the lyric as English is not my first language. His voice is thinner and I also feel some part he try too hard to reach the high note in the chorus. The impact of Adam's BTIKM does not have the same strength to me as FYE and WWFM. I choose song base on great catchy melody and tone of the voice. I don't like Britney/Rihanna type because their voices sound like machine even I like their songs. So when I am more into the BTIKM lyric, Adam's voice has a very calm soothing effect like he's talking directly to me.  The chorus is catchy but does not show case his unique voice like CLYG to me. Then when I get into the instrumentation and backing vocal, the song start to build on me a lot. That's why I really question his existing band if they can deliver this at all. I like Bruno and Adele because both have good band to support them even their voice can't be comparable to Adam's and they have good catchy songs. I also love Adam's wailing but I don't see how he can incorporate into this song. Maybe he won't. ETA: I have to to take the instrumentation and backing vocal because this is what make the song sound great to me. Adam's voice always the best to me but with good support he can make this into complete master piece of art that is different from others |
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), and here is the image that came to my mind while checking out the audio:
) But I do have a good "musical ear" with relevant pitch and I LOVE LOVE LOVE harmonies and harmonising. Have worked out harmonies for many of Adam's songs including Mad World, Broken Open, Outlaws of Love....
