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Post by LindaG23 on Dec 22, 2011 10:20:17 GMT -5
Seoulmate and catzmadam, I will join your ranks of "I love Adam but ..." I have been to five concerts and I still get the chipmunk effect for a large part of the time. I have been outdoors, in gilded concert halls, and even a slaughter house and still I get chipmunk. It is just the strangest thing but the energy at the concerts is not to be missed and Adam in person is so amazingly charismatic that I just let my eyes and my body bask and then come home to listen to YTs to find out what the concert sounded like.
I plan to do the same thing for the next tour.
*addicted to chipmunks Adam*
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Post by justkaren on Dec 22, 2011 11:23:04 GMT -5
Seoulmate and catzmadam, I will join your ranks of "I love Adam but ..." I have been to five concerts and I still get the chipmunk effect for a large part of the time. I have been outdoors, in gilded concert halls, and even a slaughter house and still I get chipmunk. It is just the strangest thing but the energy at the concerts is not to be missed and Adam in person is so amazingly charismatic that I just let my eyes and my body bask and then come home to listen to YTs to find out what the concert sounded like. I plan to do the same thing for the next tour. *addicted to chipmunks Adam* I used to get the Chipmunk effect also (it started with Adam's performance on the AI Tour) until I discovered ear plugs. Now I use the "Baby Blue Etymotic" earplugs (about $12 at Amazon) at every concert ... my ears don't hurt anymore, I can still hear when I leave the concert, I am part of all the energy, and I don't miss any of the gorgeous voice during the concert. It doesn't seem to affect his voice at all, it just seems to dampen the crowd noise and some of the instruments. It might be worth a try for you. Here is a link to a brochure from Etymotic that discusses noise levels and earplugs: www.etymotic.com/pdf/erme-brochure.pdf |
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Post by LindaG23 on Dec 22, 2011 11:54:26 GMT -5
Seoulmate and catzmadam, I will join your ranks of "I love Adam but ..." I have been to five concerts and I still get the chipmunk effect for a large part of the time. I have been outdoors, in gilded concert halls, and even a slaughter house and still I get chipmunk. It is just the strangest thing but the energy at the concerts is not to be missed and Adam in person is so amazingly charismatic that I just let my eyes and my body bask and then come home to listen to YTs to find out what the concert sounded like. I plan to do the same thing for the next tour. *addicted to chipmunks Adam* I used to get the Chipmunk effect also (it started with Adam's performance on the AI Tour) until I discovered ear plugs. Now I use the "Baby Blue Etymotic" earplugs (about $12 at Amazon) at every concert ... my ears don't hurt anymore, I can still hear when I leave the concert, I am part of all the energy, and I don't miss any of the gorgeous voice during the concert. It doesn't seem to affect his voice at all, it just seems to dampen the crowd noise and some of the instruments. It might be worth a try for you. Here is a link to a brochure from Etymotic that discusses noise levels and earplugs: www.etymotic.com/pdf/erme-brochure.pdfAren't they great!!!! I use the same ones and both my sons got a pair in their Christmas stockings last year. |
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Post by cassie on Dec 22, 2011 20:04:28 GMT -5
So glad tht you ventured onto this thread. Your comment about responding to the angsty tone rather than the oysters because they are not in your native language makes a lot of sense. Certainly when I listen to singers performing in another language, I have to get the emotion from their tone, their style, t heir phrasing, rather than their words. Adam' richer, rounder tone is more soothing, for us re. But in being so, the interpretation is less angsty or anguished. Which may be why some folks think of this as a sad song, while others think of it as a wonderful, positive love song. Thanks for pointing these things out. Hope you post some more. "rather than the oysters?" Were you posting from your phone? I can't figure out what word you really meant here. LOL OMG!!!! That is hilarious! Yup, what iPad does with spell check is bizarre. Have no idea what oysters was supposed to be. I thought I typed something like "words" or "lyrics". |
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Post by rihannsu on Dec 23, 2011 23:28:51 GMT -5
Seoulmate and catzmadam, I will join your ranks of "I love Adam but ..." I have been to five concerts and I still get the chipmunk effect for a large part of the time. I have been outdoors, in gilded concert halls, and even a slaughter house and still I get chipmunk. It is just the strangest thing but the energy at the concerts is not to be missed and Adam in person is so amazingly charismatic that I just let my eyes and my body bask and then come home to listen to YTs to find out what the concert sounded like. I plan to do the same thing for the next tour. *addicted to chipmunks Adam* Do you use ear plugs at the concerts? If you don't I would highly recommend it. If you are getting the chipmunk effect that much you may be doing damage to your ears. A lot of venues will also provide noise cancelling headphones that protect your ears but still let you hear the music. |
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Post by LindaG23 on Dec 24, 2011 9:08:07 GMT -5
Seoulmate and catzmadam, I will join your ranks of "I love Adam but ..." I have been to five concerts and I still get the chipmunk effect for a large part of the time. I have been outdoors, in gilded concert halls, and even a slaughter house and still I get chipmunk. It is just the strangest thing but the energy at the concerts is not to be missed and Adam in person is so amazingly charismatic that I just let my eyes and my body bask and then come home to listen to YTs to find out what the concert sounded like. I plan to do the same thing for the next tour. *addicted to chipmunks Adam* Do you use ear plugs at the concerts? If you don't I would highly recommend it. If you are getting the chipmunk effect that much you may be doing damage to your ears. A lot of venues will also provide noise cancelling headphones that protect your ears but still let you hear the music. Yes I do. I use the Etymotic earplugs that JustKaren mentioned and they are great. They seem to moderate sound beautifully without taking away any of the lows or highs but I will say that even with those that Adam's voice sounds higher to me, although not chipmunky, in concert than the exact same performance sounds when viewed later on video. It doesn't stop me however, from getting lost in the performance and sort of waking up from a trance when it is over. That is why it is necessary to go to more than one performance because after the first you are in such a daze that it is hard to remember what happened. |
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Post by cassie on Dec 25, 2011 1:02:50 GMT -5
Do you use ear plugs at the concerts? If you don't I would highly recommend it. If you are getting the chipmunk effect that much you may be doing damage to your ears. A lot of venues will also provide noise cancelling headphones that protect your ears but still let you hear the music. Yes I do. I use the Etymotic earplugs that JustKaren mentioned and they are great. They seem to moderate sound beautifully without taking away any of the lows or highs but I will say that even with those that Adam's voice sounds higher to me, although not chipmunky, in concert than the exact same performance sounds when viewed later on video. It doesn't stop me however, from getting lost in the performance and sort of waking up from a trance when it is over. That is why it is necessary to go to more than one performance because after the first you are in such a daze that it is hard to remember what happened. Adam's voice is so amazing in so many ways. To me, he often sounds like he is singing higher than he actually is. I have to double check on my piano. I think this is due to the multitude of harmonics there are in his voice. There are layers and layers of them. When we hear him in videos, particularly fan made videos, the equipment has a limited frequency range and response, so it cannot record all the harmonic overtones, particularly the higher ones. And the equipment we listen on may not be able to reproduce all the frequencies either. (Especially the crappy speakers on a laptop like mine.) But, when we experience Adam live, we perceive the entire range of frequencies that our ear is capable of detecting. Plus, the sound creates sympathetic harmonics or vibrations within our own bodies. So, naturally, each of us hears and responds differently depending on our own anatomy. I found this test on the computer for high frequencies. www.freemosquitoringtones.org/hearing_test/Note that the test is limited by the response of the speakers you play it on. I have some pretty good Bose speakers hooked up to my computer. The normal teen or young adult who has not damaged their ears listening to loud music can theoretically hear up to about 18,000 - 20,000 Hz. Sadly, according to this test, I can only hear up to about 12,000 Hz. I don't think it is the fault of my speakers, because when I started the test one of my dogs immediately got up and came over to investigate the sound. When I clicked on the sound that I could not hear, she obviously responded, and actually walked away like it was unpleasant to her. I suspect that you are particularly sensitive to those very high frequencies. |
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Post by Holst on Dec 25, 2011 8:54:54 GMT -5
This "hearing" discussion really takes me back to my GNT concerts. I did not have ear plugs. I went to three in one week. After the third one, I was really concerned about hearing damage the next day. My ears were still ringing. I really couldn't enjoy the concerts the way I wanted just because the volume was soooo loud. I wanted to be overwhelmed by the gorgeous voice, but it didn't work out that way. I didn't get the chipmunk effect or anything else--just all too loud.
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Post by rihannsu on Dec 25, 2011 9:59:49 GMT -5
When I was in high school my physics teachers was doing a lesson on sound frequencies and he had a frequency generator for demonstration. He was gradually walking it up the scale to demonstrate normal hearing range and some of us could hear up to a little over 20,000 Hz. My cousin and I both got up to about 22,000 Hz. Then he cranked it up to 60,000 Hz and started talking about how this was about where TV tubes and Fluorescent lights were. Then he kept talking and left it on because he forgot since it wasn't audible to him. My cousin was in pain and I got high. I mean like really tripping out high to the point where after class my stoner friends wanted to know what I'd taken. I was still high two class periods later for typing class. Needless to say my fingers were not cooperating and I was seriously scrambled. Up until that point I had been progressing fine in typing class getting faster each week. But after this I was never able to get any faster on my typing test as my fingers would start to spaz out at the speed I had reached before this incident. Don't know if my brain somehow related the typewriter actions to the high or what but I've typed faster on computer keyboards but never on a typewriter.
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Post by solar1 on Jan 2, 2012 22:06:53 GMT -5
Cassie, thank you so much for sharing all of your wisdom with us/me! I always find this thread fascinating.
I do have a question regarding Adam's EMA performance (which I love.) At one point you had mentioned that Adam displayed vocal techniques that even opera singers have a hard time mastering. Could you possibly comment on that? Also, do you think that Angelina will have a program that discusses this performance someday?
I agree that the criticisms of Adam's performance needs to be taking in the context of the venue and all of the other nuances of the situation. I love the fact that Adam is such a brave performer, and not scared to push the limits, even though some of the notes may fall short.
Thanks
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