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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 23:00:03 GMT -5
you are correct, it is not tonight. It is from Sunday night (#sundayfunday) I noticed the Sundayfunday reference. This person posted a ton of pics today from various locations. Not sure even which Sunday it might be. Just saw this blog posted on Twitter. BadAssAlterEgo posted a reply to it. cathyblog.jean-cathy.com/2015/04/05/of-him-i-wish-to-muse-aloud/Yep, I just adding "a" prior to Sunday on my comment....she went post and tag crazy today! LOL |
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Post by adamme on Apr 7, 2015 23:04:29 GMT -5
I am just catching up. If this has been said already, I apologize for being repeating. I think of a rock version of a pop song a bit like a remix. It will hardly be noticed, it will only help promote the original version and no one in the music biz is stupid enough to do anything to offend Max M., Shelback or WMG.
I just need to make it BIGGER, help me to feel calm.. 
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Post by satisfied on Apr 7, 2015 23:06:14 GMT -5
Two weeks. I can taste it.
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Post by Craazyforadam on Apr 8, 2015 0:02:31 GMT -5
Catching up from 3 days of reading...so much going on..just adding to a few topics: Somebody asked how similar these praises about GT are to what happened with TSP: Pretty much everything is different - it is the detail that tells more of the story. 1. During TSP, we did get some praises, but they were for Cuckoo, TSP (the song) mostly. A short recording of 4 songs had been prepared by the label, which was presented to a few privileged listeners in UK, first. BTIKM was a third song and I have forgotten the forth, maybe NL. In the UK, we got great enthusiasm for Cuckoo and TSP and much less so for the other two songs, and almost every review ended with a warning, that it will be important to pick the right single...almost as if, they had received unofficial word that RCA was going to pick BTIKM, and the reviewers were not happy with that choice. The US listening party was a few weeks after that, and the reception was very different than the UK one had been, not in a good way. Either people had been hushed to not say anything, or some dead-on-arrival judgement behind the scenes had meanwhile been spoken or something else was going on. Had BTIKM been picked as single in between? Had some label-radio PD interactions happened and not gone well? Were there other reasons, i.e. missing label support? I have forgotten some details, and some things we probably will never find out. ----- 2. Fan anticipation for the single was high, very high. Lots of twitter frenzy. So that part was similar to today. 3. Label: big difference on all levels: a) a promotional plan exists b) a drop date for single exists and is communicated everywhere c) it is evident that label is working behind the scenes, (if you don't see that much, don't worry - you are not supposed to see that), but it is evident in tons of little details....and last but not least, the most important part d) this album has top level support within the label. Huge difference to TSP 4. Label, PR, Adam himself and DMG are operating as a team this time around. They did not or could not in the past. 5. The praise is specifically targeted towards the single, and the single is kept separate from the album in the communication plan. There is praise for the song itself from within the US. I don't think that this guarantees that the American market of even radio overall will accept the song, but the chances are significantly improved over last time. I think we have every reason to look optimistic into this next phase. And so I go away whistling a tune. You are going to laugh at this one.. Yes, I can whistle, but strangely and embarrassingly only when I stick my fingers in my mouth to help me. In German we say, 'wie ein Schusterjunge', which means like a cobbler's boy, and that's probably not very pc, but basically means, it is not exactly lady-like. So, I probably have not done that in about 30 years or something. Of course, when the GT whistle came out, sure enough, I sat here at my computer and tried. I can still do it, but my pitch  OMG....I am all over the place. Cannot control the tone in this manner. I used to be able to whistle normally through the lips, but it is gone. I will need to get that back, if I want to have any chance at whistling a melodic sequence. And damn, Adam, even in the whistling department, that boy has range. One and a half octaves almost (G5-E4), are you kidding me? That is what some people have as a singing range. Also, I need to start a little higher than Adam, otherwise I cannot reach the bottom note, so it is a mess. But that reporter is right. I sure tried. And right now, that is all I can say about that experiment. LOL |
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Post by ruut1 on Apr 8, 2015 0:39:36 GMT -5
Mr. Sterling Fox I am not amused by your unprofessionalism...screwing with Adam's planed roll of the song and giving out (maybe) lyrics to the song.  Pardon my French and my perhaps off-topic comment, but I so fuckin' hate the contemporary matrix of Pop song writing & production, in which potentially successful songs can apparently only be created within a "commercially-correct" group mind, composed of individuals that are part of an industry-accepted or industry-recognized clique, common to so many different Pop recording artists, from A to Z. I am so looking forward to a single or an album, in a distant future, in which Adam will be the incontrovertible M-A-I-N creative force and not just a cog in that damn commercial wheel that makes the pop music go 'round.OK, I am most likely overreacting or even losing my mind in regards to this particular issue, but can I just repeat that I fuckin' hate the current matrix of pop music writing & production? How can one pursue or be all about artistic individuality and integrity within such a matrix (the POP music matrix)? That being said (and despite the convoluted and the distressed nature of my comment), I must admit that I absolutely LOVE the two teasers that Adam has shared with us for his next single, Ghost Town... Go figure! ;-) I completely agree with you, I hate these so called hitmakers. And then there is this wannabe hitmaker Sterling guy who sounds like he's ready to screw things up 
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Post by 3ku1 on Apr 8, 2015 1:17:49 GMT -5
Just because one may hate "hitmakers". Dosent mean their is anything remotely wrong with pop music. And doesn't mean the hitmakers don't deserves their success. Their is nothing wrong with pop music, some of it is very good. Let's not become the type of fan who snobs anyone who is not Adam Lambert. Just saying.
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Post by Craazyforadam on Apr 8, 2015 2:21:24 GMT -5
I have no idea who you are thinking of with your post about hitmakers, but
Nile Roger's guitar is called the Hitmaker, and he personally certainly can be considered a hitmaker, but I have not read any hate against him either here or on twitter.
I have seen some objection against writing teams, but way more in other fandoms than in our particular one, which is also quite understandable. Adam has from day 1 said that he considers song-writing for him to mean a team approach. He has made absolutely zero attempts to take on any of the other roles within the process, be they on the instrumentalist side or on the more technical side, at least he has never spoken about any active pursuits in this area. So that makes him bound to be writing and producing songs in a team fashion, but it also seems to be his preference. And I can totally understand that, many people develop creative ideas in a dialog of sorts, and not just quietly in a chamber.
I would find it very surprising, if somebody here were hating on writing teams in general. Now, I did see some negative comments about Dr Luke's factory at times, or may have written a skeptical post at times for that matter, but that was a while ago and specific to Dr Luke.
About MM&S, I have read nothing but praise here. Maybe a few voices that were concerned that they would be too much generic pop, but I don't think that this has been recent. Since we have the two snippets, I have read nothing but praise.
Usually, the comment that somebody requires a whole team of writers comes from two corners.
a) from the rock world, that loves to look down on pop. Most rockers who say that, conveniently forget that, while one person may be writing a song initially, it takes a whole band and a whole team to finish it for the album, and so they are working as a team too.
b) haters or other people who have a strong desire to bring down a certain artist by stressing that they are not a 'song-writer'. I am not going to argue around with haters, and anyways, if the song was anything big, it was probably produced with a bit of help. The one person shop from first beat til last polish is rare in professional music realm, and not realistic in today's top40 world. The extent of involvement of the main artist does indeed vary, but rarely the fact that songs are made by teams.
As far as one individual potentially behaving out of line. Well, whatever is going on in this specific case, people who break away from a team and stop being team players, are an existing breed, in this business and in any other business too.
I don't think this Sterling Fox guy is going amount to more than a nuisance. Right now he sounds like a gnat in the room that has not yet been smacked, and whatever Adam's plan was to release these lyrics could change a tad. I don't think it is major, because nothing he wrote has gone through a press cycle, and it is not like the core fan base that is right now concerned about this, is going to change their mind about TOH, because they got a few lyrics early.
Also, let's keep perspective, if Madonna cannot keep her album under raps, three months before release, a few lyric lines two weeks early, is really peanuts in comparison. I think Adam's roll-out is going just fine right now.
As far as certain fans only loving Adam Lambert. Yes, they exist, and at times foreign to me too. But everyone is different in what they love and how they are fans. Some people are just very loyal in their love, and others are more prone to philandering. Which group is the more snobbish? I don't know, and could put forth arguments on either side, come think of it.
tbh, I don't think that talking or worrying about how certain fans are or aren't is helping anything, because you cannot ask a fanbase to jump any more out of its skin, than you can ask an individual to do that.
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Post by kagmel on Apr 8, 2015 4:20:56 GMT -5
Ok this is weird. I couldn't see the posts from grandduchess and 4everadam, which are tweets. So I logged in and viola I can see! I have the same problem with embedded tweets from pi, 4EverAdam, and grandduchess, and Q3 told me it's probably because when you're not logged in there are ads on the site, and if you have an ad-blocker it is probably affecting some posts. (I use Firefox). Although I also have the issue to a lesser extent on my iPad, where I'm always logged in! Then, usually, but not always, if I refresh the page, I can see the posts. IC! Thanks for the info! |
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Post by mireille on Apr 8, 2015 4:36:08 GMT -5
Catching up from 3 days of reading...so much going on..just adding to a few topics: Somebody asked how similar these praises about GT are to what happened with TSP: Pretty much everything is different - it is the detail that tells more of the story. 1. During TSP, we did get some praises, but they were for Cuckoo, TSP (the song) mostly. A short recording of 4 songs had been prepared by the label, which was presented to a few privileged listeners in UK, first. BTIKM was a third song and I have forgotten the forth, maybe NL. In the UK, we got great enthusiasm for Cuckoo and TSP and much less so for the other two songs, and almost every review ended with a warning, that it will be important to pick the right single...almost as if, they had received unofficial word that RCA was going to pick BTIKM, and the reviewers were not happy with that choice. The US listening party was a few weeks after that, and the reception was very different than the UK one had been, not in a good way. Either people had been hushed to not say anything, or some dead-on-arrival judgement behind the scenes had meanwhile been spoken or something else was going on. Had BTIKM been picked as single in between? Had some label-radio PD interactions happened and not gone well? Were there other reasons, i.e. missing label support? I have forgotten some details, and some things we probably will never find out. ----- 2. Fan anticipation for the single was high, very high. Lots of twitter frenzy. So that part was similar to today. 3. Label: big difference on all levels: a) a promotional plan exists b) a drop date for single exists and is communicated everywhere c) it is evident that label is working behind the scenes, (if you don't see that much, don't worry - you are not supposed to see that), but it is evident in tons of little details....and last but not least, the most important part d) this album has top level support within the label. Huge difference to TSP 4. Label, PR, Adam himself and DMG are operating as a team this time around. They did not or could not in the past. 5. The praise is specifically targeted towards the single, and the single is kept separate from the album in the communication plan. There is praise for the song itself from within the US. I don't think that this guarantees that the American market of even radio overall will accept the song, but the chances are significantly improved over last time. I think we have every reason to look optimistic into this next phase. And so I go away whistling a tune. You are going to laugh at this one.. Yes, I can whistle, but strangely and embarrassingly only when I stick my fingers in my mouth to help me. In German we say, 'wie ein Schusterjunge', which means like a cobbler's boy, and that's probably not very pc, but basically means, it is not exactly lady-like. So, I probably have not done that in about 30 years or something. Of course, when the GT whistle came out, sure enough, I sat here at my computer and tried. I can still do it, but my pitch OMG....I am all over the place. Cannot control the tone in this manner. I used to be able to whistle normally through the lips, but it is gone. I will need to get that back, if I want to have any chance at whistling a melodic sequence. And damn, Adam, even in the whistling department, that boy has range. One and a half octaves almost (G5-E4), are you kidding me? That is what some people have as a singing range. Also, I need to start a little higher than Adam, otherwise I cannot reach the bottom note, so it is a mess. But that reporter is right. I sure tried. And right now, that is all I can say about that experiment. LOL Thank you very much for this info! Now i can place the enthousiasm for Ghost Town even better. and yes, i whistle the part as well, and the bottom note is indeed a note hard to get, i almost have it :-) i expect a summer full of whistling :-) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 8:42:15 GMT -5
Support Roger by purchasing his music (I own his entire solo collection). He has a plethora of solo music available for sale, including CDs from when he was with The Cross. It's much more tangible and meaningful than skewing an internet poll that he probably gives fuck all about.
if it is meaningless, why are you bothered by the result? It's apparent because you have made a similar response every day. LOL every day? hardly but you're right I have made a few comments and the reason it bugs me is because it skews the results of the poll being put on by that site, who are probably legitimately interested in who ROCK FANS think is the better drummer. It is meaningless because it has nothing to do with Adam. It gains him nothing so what is the point? |
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OMG....I am all over the place. Cannot control the tone in this manner. I used to be able to whistle normally through the lips, but it is gone. I will need to get that back, if I want to have any chance at whistling a melodic sequence. 
