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Post by lynne on May 6, 2011 19:24:38 GMT -5
And I doubt he said it in those exact sad-sounding words. 8-) ok, that makes me feel a little better. and i'm glad she didn't post a public screen shot of the the DM. You can make a good music video for a lot less than the astronomical amount Gaga is reported to have spent on the Judas video. The good thing Adam has going for him is his on screen charisma and the fact that when he reads a treatment, his experience will help him envision how it will all play out and if it will look good enough. Remember when he said he had ideas for music videos for all his songs already in his head? I bet when Adam records songs for Adam2, he is already seeing how they can be performed and thinking about how they would play out in music videos. I think it all goes together for him. Adam sizzles on screen. And that is free  |
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Post by Sunflower on May 6, 2011 19:25:17 GMT -5
Oh I realized they are independent...and of course it is too expensive to keep a band intact for an artist like Adam. But it is still interesting to me that Adam and company/management would agree to do a concert without sorting out a few details. ..like is anyone free at that time to play for me? ...'cause I would like to have you there as you have played for me in the past and it would make it easier than hiring all new people. Monte said that even with Tommy, Warren and zander they are not all avilable to play with him in the summer time when he has gigs lined up, as they have their own things going on as well. Maybe I have a little too much A personality in me. haha , I think it just underlines that as much as Adam would certainly prefer to play with the people he knows and loves working with, that they truly are only backing musicians rather than a true band and every single one of them is replaceable. I mean, we knew that already with Cam and Isaac not being the first to fill those slots, but I think the same holds for both Monte and Tommy. If for some reason they are not available, LA is full of amazingly talented musicians who with a few rehearsals could totally get up to speed on whatever set list is put together for a concert. Adam's people book the concerts for Adam, not Adam and the band as a whole. It's something to keep in mind, that as much as Adam no doubt loves his friends, he is very much a solo artist and it's best not to get too attached to the members of his backing band as they may change in the future. I think this statement is based on a misconception. Of course, I can't speak for all who like the band - only for myself - but I think everyone is very clear on the fact that they are a backing band and the band members are individually contracted. I really like the band. They are very tight together, as several reviews have mentioned. But I like them not so much as a "band" but as a collection of individual musicians. I've come to know them and like them because of Adam but now I can honestly say that I really like them for themselves. I am following all of their adventures, which is quite interesting, considering how diverse their music and audience is. I mean, it ranges from electro-pop (Uh Huh Her) to hard rock (Loaded). Monte plays practically every genre under the sun, Tommy likes metal and blues (though we haven't heard him playing blues, yet he considers himself a blues guitar player), Isaac and Tommy are playing with Ravi in a punk rock band and so on. Uh Huh Her is on a successful tour and I really enjoy following them. Also, I don't quite understand the constant reminders that they are replaceable. Of course they are. And why on earth is it wrong to get attached to them?! They are great musicians - they have their own careers and they can have their own fans. Isaac and Cam already have a lot of fans totally unrelated to Adam. Monte and Tommy are working on their own projects as well. I am perfectly capable of being a fan of more than one artist. LOL! Oh, and they don't all have to be A-list, the only qualification they need is for me to like them - for whatever reason. |
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Post by Q3 on May 6, 2011 19:30:14 GMT -5
Yes...we saw that with Madonna. Monte left... did the TV gig with her and Tommy took over for him on guitar for Adam's tv appearance. They never did get a base player for the one gig, (backup was computer technology that time) Had it been longer ..they would have to have sourced another person. And they will have to find another techie for Moscow as Warren is out of commission. I guess we will wait and see who is in the entourages for Quebec! If he wants to keep the same band doesn't he have to give them some kind of retainer so they can afford to say no to jobs that may cross over Adam's gigs. I think Monte went to play for Madonna is it was for charity and a special event not sure he would get paid for that. Touring bands are paid when they work but not paid during the hiatus periods. Adam is a solo artist and his touring band, dancers, crew, etc. will change based on the needs of each tour. Many touring bands stay together for years but do not get paid during breaks. |
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Post by cookeejar on May 6, 2011 19:33:04 GMT -5
Lynneville, I would like to express my condolences for your loss. It is always a sad time. My daughter just lost her kitty of 17 years and she is also devastated.  |
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Post by rabbitrabbit on May 6, 2011 19:39:26 GMT -5
I liked Cheeks's reaction: GoCheeksGo Cheeks I swear to the Christ that Gaga loves to hump, if someone handed me 10 million, I'd make a video for 1 and give the other 9 away. Why...? GoCheeksGo Cheeks Because 9 million will actually DO something for people. Who will your 10 mil video feed -- aside from the wealthy labels & producers? Agree with Cheecks here. I'm not so sure. No-one handed her 10 million, correct? it's her/the labels money which she chose to invest this way. She has also given huge amounts to charity. That said, it doesn't LOOK like a 10 million dollar video, so I'm not sure she got bang for her buck and that seems a sad waste (Cleopatra and Waterworld and all the other expensive flops in movies to use a parallel example, at least looked like they spent the money on sets/costumes/effects.) And who got the money? Yes, probably a fair amount of flush middle-men, but also the production company, designers, choreographers, costumers, etc. All helping to keep the LA entertainment industry alive. I'm kinda just playing devils advocate here... |
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Post by rabbitrabbit on May 6, 2011 19:41:17 GMT -5
ok, that makes me feel a little better. and i'm glad she didn't post a public screen shot of the the DM. You can make a good music video for a lot less than the astronomical amount Gaga is reported to have spent on the Judas video. The good thing Adam has going for him is his on screen charisma and the fact that when he reads a treatment, his experience will help him envision how it will all play out and if it will look good enough. Remember when he said he had ideas for music videos for all his songs already in his
head? I bet when Adam records songs for Adam2, he is already seeing how they can be performed and thinking about how they would play out in music videos. I think it all goes together for him. Adam sizzles on screen. And that is free Ooh, when did he say this? I've often really wondered about this. |
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Post by PastaBaby on May 6, 2011 19:48:19 GMT -5
I've been thinking about this lately and I wonder if that's a conversation he and Monte had before he went on Idol. Obvs, they were initially trying to get signed as a band, but when Adam realized he would have to do something drastic (go on Idol) there would be the possibility that he would be signed as a solo act. Which is what happened. He has always been very loyal to Monte and anyone who he has connected with in the past always gets the first call, it seems. However, if they are busy (and anyone in entertainment knows, that's the best-case scenario) you have to go to the next person on the list. I'm sure they have a roster of backup players (they would have to in case someone got sick or injured on tour or if there was some kind of emergency). I don't think anything was pre-arranged between Adam & Monte when Adam went on Idol. Adam never knew how far he was going to get. Monte has said that CV always had a hard time sticking together because of the differing schedules of the group. When one was in town, one of the other's wasn't, or just wasn't available. Let's not forget that Orianthi was on Adam's album, not Monte. If there was some sort of pre-arrangement with Monte, this would not have been the case. |
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Post by lynne on May 6, 2011 19:49:34 GMT -5
While I think some fans who have become invested in the band would like it to be otherwise, I think it just underlines that as much as Adam would certainly prefer to play with the people he knows and loves working with, that they truly are only backing musicians rather than a true band and every single one of them is replaceable. I mean, we knew that already with Cam and Isaac not being the first to fill those slots, but I think the same holds for both Monte and Tommy. If for some reason they are not available, LA is full of amazingly talented musicians who with a few rehearsals could totally get up to speed on whatever set list is put together for a concert. Adam's people book the concerts for Adam, not Adam and the band as a whole. It's something to keep in mind, that as much as Adam no doubt loves his friends, he is very much a solo artist and it's best not to get too attached to the members of his backing band as they may change in the future. I've been thinking about this lately and I wonder if that's a conversation he and Monte had before he went on Idol. Obvs, they were initially trying to get signed as a band, but when Adam realized he would have to do something drastic (go on Idol) there would be the possibility that he would be signed as a solo act. Which is what happened. He has always been very loyal to Monte and anyone who he has connected with in the past always gets the first call, it seems. However, if they are busy (and anyone in entertainment knows, that's the best-case scenario) you have to go to the next person on the list. I'm sure they have a roster of backup players (they would have to in case someone got sick or injured on tour or if there was some kind of emergency). I do wonder how Daughtry structured his deal though. Technically, he was getting signed, yet his situation turned into a "band." Were they signed as a band? They've always been marketed as such, so hard to believe they're not. And yes, Chunkey, Jim Cantinello has DMed me a few times. Tripped me out at first. I didn't know the follow rule either. The frustrating thing is, you can't respond. If Adam DMed me, I would keep it under wraps though. I have seen fans relate their DM experience (very few...like three) and the responses were rather innocuous, so don't know why he felt he needed to DM. I am sure as much as possible, his friends will want to try to be available when they get that first call, especially if Adam's tours continue to be successful and their own solo projects dont blow up. My husband, for example, works with a few directors regularly in the film industry. Sometimes their films overlap. Although it is sometimes necessary, he never really likes when he is busy and those directors hire on new people. After all, you don't really want anyone else to get their foot in the door of any of your paying gigs. |
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Post by whatfun on May 6, 2011 19:51:25 GMT -5
While I think some fans who have become invested in the band would like it to be otherwise, I think it just underlines that as much as Adam would certainly prefer to play with the people he knows and loves working with, that they truly are only backing musicians rather than a true band and every single one of them is replaceable. I mean, we knew that already with Cam and Isaac not being the first to fill those slots, but I think the same holds for both Monte and Tommy. If for some reason they are not available, LA is full of amazingly talented musicians who with a few rehearsals could totally get up to speed on whatever set list is put together for a concert. Adam's people book the concerts for Adam, not Adam and the band as a whole. It's something to keep in mind, that as much as Adam no doubt loves his friends, he is very much a solo artist and it's best not to get too attached to the members of his backing band as they may change in the future. I think this statement is based on a misconception. Of course, I can't speak for all who like the band - only for myself - but I think everyone is very clear on the fact that they are a backing band and the band members are individually contracted. I really like the band. They are very tight together, as several reviews have mentioned. But I like them not so much as a "band" but as a collection of individual musicians. I've come to know them and like them because of Adam but now I can honestly say that I really like them for themselves. I am following all of their adventures, which is quite interesting, considering how diverse their music and audience is. I mean, it ranges from electro-pop (Uh Huh Her) to hard rock (Loaded). Monte plays practically every genre under the sun, Tommy likes metal and blues (though we haven't heard him playing blues, yet he considers himself a blues guitar player), Isaac and Tommy are playing with Ravi in a punk rock band and so on. Uh Huh Her is on a successful tour and I really enjoy following them. Also, I don't quite understand the constant reminders that they are replaceable. Of course they are. And why on earth is it wrong to get attached to them?! They are great musicians - they have their own careers and they can have their own fans. Isaac and Cam already have a lot of fans totally unrelated to Adam. Monte and Tommy are working on their own projects as well. I am perfectly capable of being a fan of more than one artist. LOL! Oh, and they don't all have to be A-list, the only qualification they need is for me to like them - for whatever reason. What? I never said that there was anything wrong with liking and following individual member of the band. I was responding to someone who expressed surprise that Adam's record label didn't clear concert dates with the members of the band first. ETA: I guess I do have trouble with the school of thought that Adam has some sort of responsibility towards the members of his backing band. That when things like this concert come up, there are people who feel he should make sure it's workable for them as well. I don't agree, I think while Adam will do his very best to continue working with his friends, his first responsibility is to his solo career. When I talked about not getting too attached, I meant to them as his backing band members. I think at some point in the future it is inevitable that there will be scheduling conflicts or maybe someone's solo projects will take off, and we will be seeing new people in the band. But that needn't stop anyone from following an artist that they like even if they're not playing with Adam. |
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Post by lynne on May 6, 2011 19:55:11 GMT -5
lynneville, sorry about your dog, hugs to you. pemd, welcome to Adamtopia!!  Well it's 3:00am in Finland right now. Sauli and Adam met 6 months ago to the hour. Hope they are celebrating a 6 month anniversary. Adommy is real - that's such a joke. This is a large photo of Adam and Sauli in front of elevator that was supposedly the first picture of them together. JonnaMP Jonna Maria Beyond beautiful.. adam-pictures.com/displayimage.php?pid=11657&fullsize=1 #LambskiSixMonth #HappyGlamversary #Rakastan6months #ℒℴѵℯ 2 hours ago That picture is so intimate and romantic. ((((((Lynneville)))))) sorry. SusieFierce. Hope the weekend gets better! |
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