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Post by Holst on Feb 16, 2016 10:07:20 GMT -5
A day late, but one last comment about Adele's performance after seeing her and others try to blame it on the sound issues... Yes, the mic cut out, and that obviously startled her. But unless her monitors were out and she couldn't hear herself for the rest of the song, she kept hitting FLAT notes, and her tone was terrible (which it would have been anyways - it's the same on the recording of that song). Adam had the issue on the Divas show where his monitors weren't working at the beginning of Ray of Light and he started singing in a different key from what the instruments were playing. But the second he got his "ears" back, he found the right key and was perfect for the rest of the song. And he didn't go online and make excuses. He was a real pro about it. However, it's highly likely that Adele "thinks" that the only problem with the performance was the microphone problem (since, as you say, her singing sounds the same as on the recording.) Someone mentioned earlier that the piano mic problem should affect her voice. I'm going to disagree because stress can change your voice quality--just think what happens to some peoples' speaking voice when stress/anxiety hits. She apparently doesn't have the chops to be able to mask the stress.
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Post by freakydeaky on Feb 16, 2016 10:20:23 GMT -5
Gender's really important to some people... Just like it doesn't make a difference to you if a male artist sang a long tributes to Whitney at the Grammies. Do you really think that would have gone over well? What makes your "opinion" RIGHT and mine WRONG? No one said anything about right or wrong here, I just don't understand why Gaga can't perform Bowie songs because she's a woman. I just don't get it....
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Post by csquared on Feb 16, 2016 10:23:14 GMT -5
A day late, but one last comment about Adele's performance after seeing her and others try to blame it on the sound issues... Yes, the mic cut out, and that obviously startled her. But unless her monitors were out and she couldn't hear herself for the rest of the song, she kept hitting FLAT notes, and her tone was terrible (which it would have been anyways - it's the same on the recording of that song). Adam had the issue on the Divas show where his monitors weren't working at the beginning of Ray of Light and he started singing in a different key from what the instruments were playing. But the second he got his "ears" back, he found the right key and was perfect for the rest of the song. And he didn't go online and make excuses. He was a real pro about it. However, it's highly likely that Adele "thinks" that the only problem with the performance was the microphone problem (since, as you say, her singing sounds the same as on the recording.) Someone mentioned earlier that the piano mic problem should affect her voice. I'm going to disagree because stress can change your voice quality--just think what happens to some peoples' speaking voice when stress/anxiety hits. She apparently doesn't have the chops to be able to mask the stress. I think you might have hit on the real issue, that she can't handle the stress. In that NYC concert televised in December she kept getting emotional and blathering on about how she couldn't believe how everyone had stuck with her blah blah blah, and then afterwards she broke down crying. I think I mentioned at the time what an emotional mess she seemed to be. She needs to get a grip on that if it affects her so much on stage. As for her vocal tone (and I'm not a singer so don't know anything beyond what it sounds like to me), I don't mind her voice in her lower range; it's when she gets up higher that it sounds strained and shrill (to me). But whatever, best of luck to her.
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Post by thelambertluvva on Feb 16, 2016 10:28:05 GMT -5
Don't plan to watch Gaga (never liked her) but I am still curious on why in the world would they have female singer do a tribute for a male singer? Just doesn't seem right to me. I can't imagine a female doing a long tribute to Elvis or Freddie Mercury or Michael at a major awards show either. Because part of the whole tribute was a tribute to his androgyny? Why did they ask Adam to fill in on girl crush instead of another girl? Why did Adam pick from the "girls" list to find a Cher song on Idol Hollywood week? Why is it so hard for some people to accept an outwardly openly gay singer fill in for closeted singer mercury instead of manly Paul Rogers? Playing with gender is risky but then that's the whole point so it says something without saying it. Did Cher or anyone from Little Big Town die and was Adam doing the covers a tribute to their death on a major awards show?
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Post by Q3 on Feb 16, 2016 12:01:49 GMT -5
Don't plan to watch Gaga (never liked her) but I am still curious on why in the world would they have female singer do a tribute for a male singer? Just doesn't seem right to me. I can't imagine a female doing a long tribute to Elvis or Freddie Mercury or Michael at a major awards show either. In last night's Grammys, Demi Lovato, John Legend, Meghan Trainor and Luke Bryan honored Lionel Richie. The most common thing they do for major artist tributes is multiple artists, not gender specific. Many women cover David Bowie's music and tributes are often cross-gender. One of David Bowie's core artist principles in the 1970's was to shatter gender boundaries. Based on gender, the idea of Lady Gaga performing the tribute to David Bowie was not the bad idea. The whole rest of it was the bad idea. If you haven't watched it (and I am not recommending it), it may be hard to understand, but it was not really a gender problem. It was not a one artist performing problem. It just did not work. It felt like Lady Gaga was trying way too hard to be "the Grammy moment." I was rooting for her but not her best night. It won't matter -- she is having a great year and next up, she is nominated for an Oscar.
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Post by msloyalfan on Feb 16, 2016 13:11:26 GMT -5
Glad I watched "Better Call Saul" and not the Grammy's. So happy to hear that Adam sang at Clive Davis' party. It seems to me that there are a number of very influential people in the industry that recognize Adam's talent. I'll be seeing him at the Ryman -- can.not.wait!!! Personally, I watched the annual Westminster Kennel Club show. I watch it every year and there was nothing else on that attracted me more.
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Post by msloyalfan on Feb 16, 2016 13:17:23 GMT -5
All spectacle, zero tribute David Bowie's son pretty much summed it up The Daily Beast picked up on it: Bowie's Son Not A Fan of Gaga Tribute David Bowie's son Duncan Jones weighed in on Lady Gaga's colorful tribute to his late father at the 58th Grammy Awards Monday night. The "Moon" director shared his thoughts on the spectacle by tweeting the Oxford English dictionary definition of the word Gaga. www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/02/16/bowie-s-son-not-a-fan-of-gaga-tribute.html
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Feb 16, 2016 13:56:26 GMT -5
Don't plan to watch Gaga (never liked her) but I am still curious on why in the world would they have female singer do a tribute for a male singer? Just doesn't seem right to me. I can't imagine a female doing a long tribute to Elvis or Freddie Mercury or Michael at a major awards show either. I think one of the big reasons was that this was a CORPORATELY SPONSORED tribute. The corporate sponsor, Intel, wanted to promote it's image of being on the leading edge of innovation, like David Bowie was. And they wanted a star with BIG marketing power who could pull off the innovation message. Can you think of a BIG name male star who could do that? Justin Beaver, Justin Timberlake, Burno Mars, Adam Levine, Ed Sheeran - all too mainstream, even retro. Could you imagine any of them doing something so vastly different from mainstream as GaGa does? Our Adam of course could do it, but he does not have the big name marketing power that Intel wanted.
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Post by coo.coo.ca.choo on Feb 16, 2016 15:16:01 GMT -5
Glad I watched "Better Call Saul" and not the Grammy's. So happy to hear that Adam sang at Clive Davis' party. It seems to me that there are a number of very influential people in the industry that recognize Adam's talent. I'll be seeing him at the Ryman -- can.not.wait!!! Personally, I watched the annual Westminster Kennel Club show. I watch it every year and there was nothing else on that attracted me more. I'll watch it tonight! So excited to see friends in the sporting group!
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