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Post by Jablea on Feb 29, 2016 19:46:01 GMT -5
happy wrote: Yes, I agree. I think it is very important to Adam's artistic soul that his lyrics have meaning and reflect the world around him and his internal world. I have nothing but respect for that purity of purpose. I also think that he is a very intelligent person, with a quick mind, and a father who possibly exposed him to the intricacies and vastness of words (guessing, but I do think this). So I think he approaches song writing wanting his songs to have depth and reflection and meaning. Even his fun songs, like These Boys, to me show a certain wit and intelligence. lyrics
And I have come to agree with those here who feel that These Boys has a real chance, with promotion and exposure, to go up the charts. For me just the way he sings the word radio is fun.
But I must disclose that I am the teensiest bit prejudiced. Adam had no hand in the writing of These Boys. He also doesn't have a writing credit on Shame, Underground and Evil in the Night. And given These Boys is a bonus track, it's unlikely to be a single. For me, both These Boys and Shame are kind of an awkward fit on TOH. They're so different in tone and mood from the rest of the songs. I also think they are the least interesting songs on the album -- kind of generic-sounding pop stuff. But YMMV, of course. But having no writing credit on a song doesn't mean he's not drawn to it based on it's lyrics etc. One of the things I love about Adam is the clarity of his pronunciation. I might not get one word right out of 3 or 4 songs but so many other chart toppers are just blah ga toad dii and I have no idea what they are saying. I'm glad so many people like my suggestion on These Boys for a single, I know the general consensus is against a bonus track BUT let's look at the success of Omi' Cheerleader which was a remix or throw back to the days of A sides and B sides where the B sides wound up being the hit. I find it interesting that he's doing the band intro during it, he did that when If I Had You was coming out.
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Post by drummer on Feb 29, 2016 19:58:48 GMT -5
Adam had no hand in the writing of These Boys. He also doesn't have a writing credit on Shame, Underground and Evil in the Night. And given These Boys is a bonus track, it's unlikely to be a single. For me, both These Boys and Shame are kind of an awkward fit on TOH. They're so different in tone and mood from the rest of the songs. I also think they are the least interesting songs on the album -- kind of generic-sounding pop stuff. But YMMV, of course. But having no writing credit on a song doesn't mean he's not drawn to it based on it's lyrics etc. One of the things I love about Adam is the clarity of his pronunciation. I might not get one word right out of 3 or 4 songs but so many other chart toppers are just blah ga toad dii and I have no idea what they are saying. I'm glad so many people like my suggestion on These Boys for a single, I know the general consensus is against a bonus track BUT let's look at the success of Omi' Cheerleader which was a remix or throw back to the days of A sides and B sides where the B sides wound up being the hit. I find it interesting that he's doing the band intro during it, he did that when If I Had You was coming out. I would love to see These Boys get released as a single. But I love TOH, too, and that one is the logical next single. In my perfect world, BOTH songs would be released in tandem and it would be a fantastic spring and summer!
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Post by lydia on Feb 29, 2016 20:01:12 GMT -5
Adam had no hand in the writing of These Boys. He also doesn't have a writing credit on Shame, Underground and Evil in the Night. And given These Boys is a bonus track, it's unlikely to be a single. For me, both These Boys and Shame are kind of an awkward fit on TOH. They're so different in tone and mood from the rest of the songs. I also think they are the least interesting songs on the album -- kind of generic-sounding pop stuff. But YMMV, of course. Hence why These boys would smash. Generic sounding haha. I personally think with major support Toh could crack Top Ten Bb hot 100. But he needs a big first up performance. Idol good start. But then maybe Fallon. No.Ellen first up Lol. Yes, you may be right. Maybe something generic-sounding like These Boys would be a smash. But Ghost Town made a number of "Best of 2015" lists precisely because it was a bit different and unexpected. And also because it was catchy and had fairly simple lyrics, like a lot of pop hits. Maybe that's the sweet spot for Adam -- a song that is catchy and people can sing along to, but also somewhat unexpected. Because I think an element of daring and edge is part of Adam's "brand". Not sure what other song on TOH fits the bill -- maybe the title track??
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Post by adamrocks on Feb 29, 2016 20:08:33 GMT -5
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Post by adamme on Feb 29, 2016 20:11:11 GMT -5
OMG! LOL! Sam Sparrow is still at it. He posted this 3 minutes ago. Sam Sparro @samsparro 3m3 minutes ago I'm the first openly gay artist to use single ply toilet paper.
Congratulations Sam
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Post by adamrocks on Feb 29, 2016 20:12:44 GMT -5
Feral @feraltwirler 12m12 minutes ago Feral Retweeted Adam Ross Awww yer a peach!!!
lola b @8blackdiamond8 6h6 hours ago @adamrossmusic Saw the show the last 2 nights. You were unbelievable. Can we nominate you in Guitar mag's best guitarist poll?
Adam Ross @adamrossmusic @8blackdiamond8 I'm so grateful to share the stage w the best male singer in the game right now. Every day I'm inspired to get better
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Post by adamme on Feb 29, 2016 20:15:13 GMT -5
Gah.. the other guy's so cute
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Post by lydia on Feb 29, 2016 20:21:22 GMT -5
Adam had no hand in the writing of These Boys. He also doesn't have a writing credit on Shame, Underground and Evil in the Night. And given These Boys is a bonus track, it's unlikely to be a single. For me, both These Boys and Shame are kind of an awkward fit on TOH. They're so different in tone and mood from the rest of the songs. I also think they are the least interesting songs on the album -- kind of generic-sounding pop stuff. But YMMV, of course. But having no writing credit on a song doesn't mean he's not drawn to it based on it's lyrics etc. One of the things I love about Adam is the clarity of his pronunciation. I might not get one word right out of 3 or 4 songs but so many other chart toppers are just blah ga toad dii and I have no idea what they are saying. I'm glad so many people like my suggestion on These Boys for a single, I know the general consensus is against a bonus track BUT let's look at the success of Omi' Cheerleader which was a remix or throw back to the days of A sides and B sides where the B sides wound up being the hit. I find it interesting that he's doing the band intro during it, he did that when If I Had You was coming out. Adam performed Voodoo and DTRH during GNT, and neither was released as a single, so I don't think including These Boys in concert is an indication that it would be released as a single. It may simply be a song that he enjoys performing and he thinks fits well in that part of his set. With all of the co-writing credits that Adam has on TOH, I would be surprised if a song that he did not co-author would be a single, especially a song that is an outlier in terms of the album's overall tone. And I'm hard-pressed to think of a recent album in which a bonus track was released as a single. So, I think These Boys is a long shot as the next single, but who knows. Hopefully we'll find out "soon".
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Post by LindaG23 on Feb 29, 2016 20:21:48 GMT -5
I'm glad so many people like my suggestion on These Boys for a single, I know the general consensus is against a bonus track BUT let's look at the success of Omi' Cheerleader which was a remix or throw back to the days of A sides and B sides where the B sides wound up being the hit. I find it interesting that he's doing the band intro during it, he did that when If I Had You was coming out. After seeing that video of These Boys and Hillary2016, I am convinced that whoever wrote it was channeling this election. It is so perfect for her campaign both lyrically and in tone, it is ridiculous. It needs to be played at all her rallies, I even tweeted to her. And just think of all the people who would Shazam it. The universe needs to align.
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Post by Jablea on Feb 29, 2016 20:22:21 GMT -5
Adam had nothing to apologise for after Amas. If anything.the a audience should of apologised to him. He just came off a idol tour where women were throwing bras at him. So he thought okay this is what they want. So Amas happened. They can put you on this pedestal then bring you right bk down at anytime. Its funny I was watching the performance. Other then some very questionable vocals lol. And.the Ninja roll. I was like wheres the controversy? I think.Us has come a long way since 09. Ss I dont think needs to apologize too. He diddnt say anything harmful. Just some thing stupid haha I don't think Adam had anything to apologize for after the AMAs except for what he apologized for -- his vocals which were not his best. I also think that the net effect of the AMAs was positive for Adam -- it generate an enormous amount of press coverage and brought him a level of fame and blew away the American Idol stigma he had -- together that changed his trajectory for the better. It was net positive because he did not apologize. The people who should apologize are 1. Dr. Luke for the awful production of FYE and leaving it in Britney Spears' key. 2. the "brain trust" at 19 Entertainment and RCA who selected FYE as Adam's first single sort of (muddied up with TFM). 3. The production design team who came up with that impossible set for Adam to more through. 4. The AMA/Dick Clark Productions who promised an outrageous/shocking performance by Adam Lambert at ever commercial break. 5. The Disney/ABC execs who overreacted. And although millions watched the AMA and more watched the video of the performance, there were only 1,500 complaints -- all from one group with a political agenda. "No one" was really "shocked" by Adam's performance or the kiss. ETA: Adam's career was mangled in the beginning because he did not fit into any genre box, there was no clarity who he was as an artist. First Idol forces singers to genre hop -- Motown, Classic Rock, Rat Pack, 80's, etc. Then look at his first 3 singles -- TFM (retro power ballad), FYE (dance pop with a vintage beat and S&M themes) and WWFM (a mid-tempo ballad). The lack of clarity continued with Trespassing. It all seems to be fitting together now -- TOH is more focused and more Adam. Hmmmm, I think I may have to take issue with the no one was shocked. It was not what I expected and I didn't care for the excuses he gave for it either. As I said it took about a month for him to get it right so that I felt he understood why some us were quite upset at him. Seven years later and I still regret that I called my 10 year old out to watch as to this day I think it still colors his perception of Adam the artist. I very reluctantly bought the album so it would count for the first week, but I didn't play it. I didn't listen to the new songs that I had never heard. I pondered and I watched as he struggled to find words for what happened and it took awhile. At first his attitude was brash - What did you expect, kids shouldn't be up so late. And then it turned into he was wronged - Well Gaga was throwing whiskey bottles, nothing wrong with Madonna/Britney, he humped stair cases on the Idol tour and they loved it. And it took a while to eventually evolve into what I consider an apology, which considered the expectations of the viewers instead of blaming some of us for our reactions. It was that growth from petulant young man to empathetic mature man that solidified my respect. He made it through that fire, he was tempered by it, and came out stronger in the end. Now since I'm the one who brought up the AMAs I'll bring it back to my original intent. I hope those that were willing to give Adam the benefit of the doubt back then would also be willing to give SS the same courtesy and a bit more than 24 hours to think it over.
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