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Post by bamafan on May 7, 2016 15:18:11 GMT -5
I can't imagine any pants being any better/hotter than those OAL pants. He has a few other nice pants....but those and that whole outfit were PERFECT! I do expect some new costumes for this summer...maybe something not quite as hot...temp wise...for those outside festival shows.
I'm just now back from lunch and I see a whole vid of THE ENCORE has surfaced. Off to watch....and DL!!!!!
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Post by AnnAdoresAdam on May 7, 2016 15:25:22 GMT -5
So where do you think Adam is right now?.........any guesses? I read that he was in London but the person who said that didn't say how they knew - although they sounded pretty certain. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 15:29:59 GMT -5
There aren't any 'front row' tickets in general admission. GA tickets are one price for everyone. I just put myself in the shoes of a young fan in a foreign country: still in school, no salary to pay for tickets to multiple shows, especially not for flights to other countries. Here is the first time in YEARS one of my favorite artists has set foot in my country. ...And then some grown women with enough money fly in from another country & take maybe my only chance to have the experience that those women are having at multiple shows. It just sucks for those people with only enough money for one show in countries Adam rarely visits.  Sure, those women have the right to the front row. And I'm sure they're nice people. But nice people don't always make the most sympathetic decision (to the locals or to Adam). I have a job, not even that bad, but this is Poland. I really needed a very, very carefull planning to go on one show - it costed me my 1 month sallary with hotel and all. If I want go on QAL there is no vacation for me this year, no new shoes, no new clothes, no books, nothing but basics expenses. So I understand those kids who made Adam a promise but more than half of them can't go to Oświęcim, because their parents have no money for more. That's our reality here. Ah, BB. I think you just illustrated what some of us are trying to say. For me, it has nothing to do with being jealous or envying those that can afford many shows and everything to do with simply wanting to see those that have only one limited chance an opportunity to get that up close and personal experience. Hugs to you! |
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Post by bamafan on May 7, 2016 15:30:09 GMT -5
So where do you think Adam is right now?.........any guesses? I read that he was in London but the person who said that didn't say how they knew - although they sounded pretty certain. Seems like the logical place to be. |
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Post by katycake on May 7, 2016 15:32:46 GMT -5
So glad you had a great time. I've had that sound experience as well. Maybe the volume is just to loud for me in the live performances. I don't know why live has been a bit disappointing. I'm relieved not to be the only one who's had that experience! Thank you for responding. Still, the overall experience of the concert was very positive. |
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Post by nonchallance on May 7, 2016 15:38:03 GMT -5
nonchallance wrote: I really understand that, and empathize. I have had periods in my life where the thought of that kind of luxury, the inability to spend that kind of money for anything but absolute necessities was the reality. And I hope that things will get better for you. I think what bothers me about this situation is that there will always be privileged people, there will always be inequalities, at least that is what history has shown us. If there is an inequality that bothers you, you will probably make minimal inroads into changing it by posting anonymously on an internet forum. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but more could be done for issues you feel strongly about. if you are unhappy and want to see changes made, be an agent of change. Write to the ticket companies, write to the artist's management companies, write to the artist or maybe to the venues. Express your views additionally where they may make a difference. Some people have expressed some ideas on how to change the system on this board that sounded like good starting points to me. I think maybe I should join graciejane behind the couch for a while, that should be interesting.  We can start with shots of Clase Azul tequila.  Believe me, I do more than anonymously posting on forums - Poland have more issues than concert ticket prices and that's why things don't get better for me any soon, and for a lot young people for that matter. We have one concert here - 99% don't have enough money to go even to Praga or Berlin for second show, let alone third or fourth. I only posted this to show you context why there is always a disscusion about this particular problem from our little country in the middle of Europe perspective. |
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Post by red panda on May 7, 2016 15:42:23 GMT -5
nonchallance wrote: I really understand that, and empathize. I have had periods in my life where the thought of that kind of luxury, the inability to spend that kind of money for anything but absolute necessities was the reality. And I hope that things will get better for you. I think what bothers me about this situation is that there will always be privileged people, there will always be inequalities, at least that is what history has shown us. If there is an inequality that bothers you, you will probably make minimal inroads into changing it by posting anonymously on an internet forum. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but more could be done for issues you feel strongly about. if you are unhappy and want to see changes made, be an agent of change. Write to the ticket companies, write to the artist's management companies, write to the artist or maybe to the venues. Express your views additionally where they may make a difference. Some people have expressed some ideas on how to change the system on this board that sounded like good starting points to me. Believe me, I do more than anonymously posting on forums - Poland have more issues than concert ticket prices and that's why things don't get better for me any soon, and for a lot young people for that matter. We have one concert here - 99% don't have enough money to go even to Praga or Berlin for second show, let alone third or fourth. I only posted this to show you context why there is always a disscusion about this particular problem from our little country in the middle of Europe perspective. And I thank you for sharing your experience, nonchallance. That response was not directed at you, I understand there are much larger issues for you and your country. I wish things were different for you. |
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Post by nonchallance on May 7, 2016 15:45:17 GMT -5
I have a job, not even that bad, but this is Poland. I really needed a very, very carefull planning to go on one show - it costed me my 1 month sallary with hotel and all. If I want go on QAL there is no vacation for me this year, no new shoes, no new clothes, no books, nothing but basics expenses. So I understand those kids who made Adam a promise but more than half of them can't go to Oświęcim, because their parents have no money for more. That's our reality here. Ah, BB. I think you just illustrated what some of us are trying to say. For me, it has nothing to do with being jealous or envying those that can afford many shows and everything to do with simply wanting to see those that have only one limited chance an opportunity to get that up close and personal experience. Hugs to you! Thank you  Let's say that if you know that this is your one chance in hell you are very determined to make the most of it, so sometimes it's can be really a brutal fight and not so nice emotions, even with Adam and his message in our heads nad hearts. It's love after all - you not always can control it. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 15:55:11 GMT -5
nonchallance wrote: I really understand that, and empathize. I have had periods in my life where the thought of that kind of luxury, the inability to spend that kind of money for anything but absolute necessities was the reality. And I hope that things will get better for you. I think what bothers me about this situation is that there will always be privileged people, there will always be inequalities, at least that is what history has shown us. If there is an inequality that bothers you, you will probably make minimal inroads into changing it by posting anonymously on an internet forum. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but more could be done for issues you feel strongly about.
if you are unhappy and want to see changes made, be an agent of change. Write to the ticket companies, write to the artist's management companies, write to the artist or maybe to the venues. Express your views additionally where they may make a difference.Some people have expressed some ideas on how to change the system on this board that sounded like good starting points to me. I don't get, though, how addressing ticket companies, management, the artist, venues, etc will change fan behavior. That seems like making a mountain out of a molehill. Because that's all this is in regards to the situation everyone is talking about today. Fan behavior. It's just simple decisions that some adult fans are making about placing themselves in the front row of multiple shows in different countries, taking those opportunities away from those locals without that luxury. It's not the ticket company's, or management's, etc. issue. It's just empathy among fans. I think the conversation happening here, among fans, is much more productive than wasting time trying to get the ear of entities that have nothing to do with the situation. You idea of being an agent of change is right on. But doing that also means understanding the scope of the situation & addressing the 'players' with an actual role in the situation - which isn't ticketing or management. It's just fans. Unless you're seeing a much bigger issue than I am. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 15:56:06 GMT -5
Amazing how quickly the glow of an absolutely marvelous show can fade so quickly for some. I just don't get the obsession with the few who have the means and desire to go to many shows and be in the front. If you reduced their numbers to a percentage of the total attendance I think it would be extremely low. Yes, Adam commented on their presence a few times. Adam also had said many many many times that we need to be concentrate on our similarities more than our differences. That's the message from Adam that I choose to jump on the bandwagon for. Don't we all admire Adam and love his voice? Plus not knowing these people who are inspiring such venom. I certainly have no knowledge of what they do, or why or how they do it. Do we know that they don't donate front row tickets to locals? It is always surprising to me that people who admire Adam's philosophy and value him for his views can leave that point of view behind so quickly and come down on the side of censure. And you all may have personal knowledge or experiences that have led you to feel the way you do, I haven't. So there is that. There aren't any 'front row' tickets in general admission. GA tickets are one price for everyone. I just put myself in the shoes of a young fan in a foreign country: still in school, no salary to pay for tickets to multiple shows, especially not for flights to other countries. Here is the first time in YEARS one of my favorite artists has set foot in my country. ...And then some grown women with enough money fly in from another country & take maybe my only chance to have the experience that those women are having at multiple shows. It just sucks for those people with only enough money for one show in countries Adam rarely visits. Sure, those women have the right to the front row. And I'm sure they're nice people. But nice people don't always make the most sympathetic decision (to the locals or to Adam). Yes, but that's not the way the tickets were priced for this tour (or most anyone else's tours.) VIP was a ticket price. VIP held special privileges. If people have a problem with VIP pricing, they need to take it up with the artist, not with the people who can afford to buy it. Sorry, but that is reality. And remember, Adam gets all that extra $$$$$$ of the VIP ticket that is above the pricing of the regular ticket. I think for the special seating and front row, it was about $300 a ticket. ETA: Books was posting at the same time and I missed this It's not the ticket company's, or management's, etc. issue. It's just empathy among fans.It is the management and the ticket companies that cause the VIP "problem." It is all about pricing and making more money. |
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Let's say that if you know that this is your one chance in hell you are very determined to make the most of it, so sometimes it's can be really a brutal fight and not so nice emotions, even with Adam and his message in our heads nad hearts. It's love after all - you not always can control it.