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Post by Q3 on Oct 1, 2017 1:39:29 GMT -5
"Sorry for the long post. But how to market musicians and their music in 2017 is something I have thought a lot about." Thanks Q3. I was only asking about the one return of the TRL show so could not bring myself to read thru the other. But I take the answer is no to expect him on the show and no for it to be beneficial. Good to know. I have no idea if it is something that could be expected -- but JMHO probably not that beneficial.
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Post by Q3 on Oct 1, 2017 1:44:58 GMT -5
My guess is that Adam and Sauli get promo deals for these trips and that is why we get the beautiful photos of the resorts and accommodations. Many celebrities get paid to visit and promote destinations -- particularly if they have a lot of social media followers.
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Post by 3ku1 on Oct 1, 2017 2:37:55 GMT -5
If MTV is re-inventing itself and updating its image, I sure wish Adam could find a way to get on it, along with these other big names. But he has to be relevant and current to get on. He has to have current, successful music on the charts or something else BIG that he has been doing. Just being amazingly talented, smart, witty and gorgeous isn't enough apparently. Maybe this new show will actually pan out and become something worth watching. We'll see. Here is hoping that the new changes with WMG/WBR will be helpful to Adam. On the WMG/Atlantic side they are kicking butt and taking names. Bruno, Ed, Puth, Kelly Clarkson (moving up the charts nicely), Lil Uzi Vert, Melanie Martinez, Portugal . The Man, Coldplay, Sia and new artist Cardi B unseated Taylor Swift and is the 1st female rapper to go #1 Billboard 100 since 98. WTF are they putting in the water over there on that side, lol? Since when is Adam not current or relevant? I get people mean in terms of new music. But Adam def is current. He fronts Queen on a world tour. Most people in the music industry, consumers, fans know who he is. He is just one big hit away from breaking into the stratesphere. I can see Adam on this reinvented MTV. Why not.
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Post by marionm on Oct 1, 2017 2:40:47 GMT -5
Not sure Adam has enough followers for such deals and I really don't mean to put him down. There are just other celebrities who have more followers and I'm not talking about the obvious names but Cody Simpson for example, he has 8 million followers on twitter and over 3 million followers on instagram. Soccer stars of the champions league usually also have big following. Maybe it's also about what is to be promoted. A 14 year old following a soccer star will begg his parents to buy him the newest latest cool pair of sneakers or that fifa game but not a trip to Greece lol I know the stars of high school musical got some free ed hardy stuff back then.
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Post by girldrummer on Oct 1, 2017 9:36:08 GMT -5
Here is hoping that the new changes with WMG/WBR will be helpful to Adam. On the WMG/Atlantic side they are kicking butt and taking names. Bruno, Ed, Puth, Kelly Clarkson (moving up the charts nicely), Lil Uzi Vert, Melanie Martinez, Portugal . The Man, Coldplay, Sia and new artist Cardi B unseated Taylor Swift and is the 1st female rapper to go #1 Billboard 100 since 98. WTF are they putting in the water over there on that side, lol? Since when is Adam not current or relevant? I get people mean in terms of new music. But Adam def is current. He fronts Queen on a world tour. Most people in the music industry, consumers, fans know who he is. He is just one big hit away from breaking into the stratesphere. I can see Adam on this reinvented MTV. Why not. Well, if being on the right "side" makes such a difference, I sure hope Adam winds up on that side. Promotion has been a problem fro him. WBR claims they like him a lot. Well then. Work with him to identify one of his strongest new songs and promote the hell out of it. It's so great that these other artists are zooming up the charts, but Adam has just as much to offer. I hope this label shake-up turns out to be for his benefit.
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Post by girldrummer on Oct 1, 2017 9:42:38 GMT -5
Not sure Adam has enough followers for such deals and I really don't mean to put him down. There are just other celebrities who have more followers and I'm not talking about the obvious names but Cody Simpson for example, he has 8 million followers on twitter and over 3 million followers on instagram. Soccer stars of the champions league usually also have big following. Maybe it's also about what is to be promoted. A 14 year old following a soccer star will begg his parents to buy him the newest latest cool pair of sneakers or that fifa game but not a trip to Greece lol I know the stars of high school musical got some free ed hardy stuff back then. Gaining followers comes with getting hit songs and getting a hit song comes with strong promotion and management from the label. I don't know who Cody Simpson is, but good for him. Adam is older, and though he has teen fans, that is not his strongest demographic. Singers his age and older manage to grow very large fan bases. It all comes down to hit songs. I sure hope he has one in his new batch. If he does, we'll get a solo tour. If he doesn't, we won't.
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Post by lurleene on Oct 1, 2017 13:53:11 GMT -5
Not sure Adam has enough followers for such deals and I really don't mean to put him down. There are just other celebrities who have more followers and I'm not talking about the obvious names but Cody Simpson for example, he has 8 million followers on twitter and over 3 million followers on instagram. Soccer stars of the champions league usually also have big following. Maybe it's also about what is to be promoted. A 14 year old following a soccer star will begg his parents to buy him the newest latest cool pair of sneakers or that fifa game but not a trip to Greece lol I know the stars of high school musical got some free ed hardy stuff back then. Gaining followers comes with getting hit songs and getting a hit song comes with strong promotion and management from the label. I don't know who Cody Simpson is, but good for him. Adam is older, and though he has teen fans, that is not his strongest demographic. Singers his age and older manage to grow very large fan bases. It all comes down to hit songs. I sure hope he has one in his new batch. If he does, we'll get a solo tour. If he doesn't, we won't. Yep. Don't think followers are the problem. Cody Simpson does not get the type of opportunities that Adam gets. Headlining the Singapore NYE concert. Good Morning America concert series for TOH album. The big thing he did for China on Singles day as the star guest. Headlining solo world tours and fronting Queen worldwide. Judge of XFAU. He is relevant and current, imo, but he is missing big radio play in the US. I know there are other ways to be heard and he seems to get good radio support internationally. But in the US massive radio play is where the biggest chart success and hits come from. Tho Melanie found a way to do it without radio but Atlantic kept releasing songs for her. Hopefully the new WMG/WBR will put up some fight for him and do for WBR label artists what WMG/Atlantic label seems to be able to do for many of theirs.
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Post by girldrummer on Oct 1, 2017 15:29:15 GMT -5
Gaining followers comes with getting hit songs and getting a hit song comes with strong promotion and management from the label. I don't know who Cody Simpson is, but good for him. Adam is older, and though he has teen fans, that is not his strongest demographic. Singers his age and older manage to grow very large fan bases. It all comes down to hit songs. I sure hope he has one in his new batch. If he does, we'll get a solo tour. If he doesn't, we won't. Yep. Don't think followers are the problem. Cody Simpson does not get the type of opportunities that Adam gets. Headlining the Singapore NYE concert. Good Morning America concert series for TOH album. The big thing he did for China on Singles day as the star guest. Headlining solo world tours and fronting Queen worldwide. Judge of XFAU. He is relevant and current, imo, but he is missing big radio play in the US. I know there are other ways to be heard and he seems to get good radio support internationally. But in the US massive radio play is where the biggest chart success and hits come from. Tho Melanie found a way to do it without radio but Atlantic kept releasing songs for her. Hopefully the new WMG/WBR will put up some fight for him and do for WBR label artists what WMG/Atlantic label seems to be able to do for many of theirs. Amen to all that!
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Post by melliemom on Oct 1, 2017 16:32:52 GMT -5
Adam is doing GREAT
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Post by marionm on Oct 1, 2017 16:51:35 GMT -5
Absolutely, totally agree. I wasn't trying to say anything else it's just that for such an agreement the promotion through the star would have to reach a certain amount of people to be lucrative for the resort. Until now Adam hasn't even tagged the resort in the one picture/selfie where you "only" see him and nothing of the resort itself so the question of a deal is invalid thus far.
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