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Post by petrajo on Oct 18, 2017 15:16:29 GMT -5
I think Simon has been fine for a long time now. I first heard of him in Spring 2010 when Adam, Brad and Danielle went to his concert, I think at the Roxy. I started following him after that. He was at one of Adam's Halloween parties but I can't remember which year, I think maybe 2010. I like his music and he even wrote a book that was published by Simon and Schuster, Boy Robot. He and his boyfriend have been together for 5 years and they are adorable together. Thank you for this. ❤️ |
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Post by needacoke on Oct 18, 2017 15:28:13 GMT -5
This is the concert of Simon's at The Roxy that Adam attended.
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Post by bamafan on Oct 18, 2017 15:39:59 GMT -5
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Post by rihannsu on Oct 18, 2017 16:09:12 GMT -5
I think Simon has been fine for a long time now. I first heard of him in Spring 2010 when Adam, Brad and Danielle went to his concert, I think at the Roxy. I started following him after that. He was at one of Adam's Halloween parties but I can't remember which year, I think maybe 2010. I like his music and he even wrote a book that was published by Simon and Schuster, Boy Robot. He and his boyfriend have been together for 5 years and they are adorable together. I liked his music. First album was 8-bit Heart. He had a song on there called Boy Robot. He had a second album then was part of a Duo with a girl for a bit. His book came out with a dedication to transgenders who had lost their live and also to the victims of the Pulse shooting. There is a pulse line running through the pages of the book. It's a good book and the sequel is either out or coming out soon. |
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Post by csquared on Oct 18, 2017 17:45:23 GMT -5
I do remember Adam talking at some point about being told to stop wearing nail polish during rehearsals for the Ten Commandments musical. Too gay... So I'm sure he's met with sexist crap like that, though who knows haw far it went.
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Post by bamafan on Oct 18, 2017 17:51:06 GMT -5
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Post by lurleene on Oct 18, 2017 18:14:01 GMT -5
A lot of times predators look for targets that they view as vulnerable, naive and/or weak. I had that experience at 17 (when I was vulnerable, weak and naive) but fortunately someone stepped in to keep me from harm. He then took me under his wing and became a valued mentor until I could stand on my own. Fast forward a few years after that, when I was in charge of who I was, and you would have had a damn fight on your hands to try to coerce me into anything. There are a lot of sad stories out there in Hollywood and regular life of people (mostly female but males also) who have been taken advantage of, especially when they are young. I feel for them because it has to be hurtful. Fortunately all are not predators and all are not going to be victims.
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Post by bamafan on Oct 18, 2017 18:39:42 GMT -5
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Post by bamafan on Oct 18, 2017 18:41:28 GMT -5
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Post by Craazyforadam on Oct 18, 2017 22:09:53 GMT -5
Just would like to add to the comments made, that I really noticed that Adam tries to focus on the wider picture in this whole discussion that surrounds the Harvey Weinstein saga, rather than the specific story itself. And I appreciate that because I think it is needed.
This is not just a Hollywood problem, and obviously, it is also not just a female problem, as for example the Simon Curtis discussion here demonstrates.
Women (as well as especially children, and gay men) are still way too alone - each with their own personal story - thinking that they are the only one to whom 'things' are happening. And what 'things' actually are, is rarely sufficiently detailed, exactly because it is scary and sometimes hard to believe. And we cannot scare our children or waken them up per-maturely either. That would be wrong too. But unfortunately, that means that sometimes information comes too late.
Victims are kept alone by a carpet of silence, which indeed received a few holes this week, but still is a mighty big carpet. They are kept isolated by the manipulation of the controlling person. They are furthermore kept alone, because the victims, especially when young, often lack the tools to either process or verbalize or analyze their own situation, not only towards somebody else they could potentially 'brake open' towards, but often also towards themselves.
it is the recognition how wide spread the problem is, both in quantity, as well as in the many ways the illicit behavior manifests itself, that needs to be discussed openly, and avenues need to be provided for people to explore such conversations. The legal level is the last in a chain of situations that need to have a bridge-point available for the person reaching out, wanting to frame and understand what they have actually experienced.
This is not just rape and assault, it is also manipulation, threats, professional discrimination, involuntary forms of co-dependency, exposure to age inappropriate material or acts or conversations, and tons more.
Some of this discussion seems to be happening at the moment, and that is a good thing. I hope it results in a wider understanding of the breadth and substance of the matter.
We also need to understand one other thing when it comes to understanding the world we live in. That some men we are surrounded by or are looking up to, may be abusers. Statistically, it is actually very likely that some of them are doing wrong, right under the nose of us and any unsuspecting public.
Many guys guilty of serious missteps leading up to even criminal behavior are often very accomplished and successful. The person who has assaulted a woman at work and/or threatened her, may be somebody who started ten foundations, helped thousands of people in need and/or leads the most wonderful family life and therefore not only has a ton of defenders, people who look up to him and stand up for him, but people who have truly reason to be grateful. This provides unfortunately unintentionally the protection and therefore empowerment for the abuser. And it makes it difficult to compute all that in our head when it blows up. That is both, for the person experiencing the assault in the moment, as well as the wider public trying to process the situation later.
Add to that the internalized acceptance of abuse. Whether it is the child that experiences sexual abuse at home, or the gay kid that for many years thinks it is a 'normal price' to giving blow jobs in exchange for a career, or the many women, who defend men, rather than their female companions, and who join the slut shaming and isolation of the victim gladly so, thinking they are doing something right. And I am biting my tongue / slapping my fingers from producing any sentence containing the word white and house in it, but obviously anybody can make up their own mind about internalized acceptance there.
I think that the wide and open discussion and the provision for points of council about all topics related to sexual overreach, not just the criminal assault cases, can really help in this vast need for cultural awareness as well as correction. And hopefully, some of this discussion is happening now. And I see Adam has used his voice in this way too.
Anyhow, lots of thoughts, but this topic is such an important one, and I am glad to see the discussion broken open here in the US and even beyond, especially at a time when it seemed that any understanding about these matters had gone dark. It is overall a good thing that is happening.
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