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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2011 23:14:39 GMT -5
Wow. Thanks, Mika. Of course, I remember that interview (such a great interview) but I hadn't remembered that part.
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Post by jamie on Sept 12, 2011 23:14:49 GMT -5
Bridget Here's the vid - the comment is around 5:26. Thank you Mika! And MWP, that quote was too perfect for today. I love this Q&A so much. He was so funny and open that day. Now I know how I'll get my Adam fix tomorrow... ;D |
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Post by Craazyforadam on Sept 12, 2011 23:30:57 GMT -5
So, I saw 30 pages and I knew something had happened and I had a tough time catching up. But I tried to get through and here I am now…exhausted…and not sure whether I am brain-dead or brain-washed at this point.
Do I still have an opinion? Not sure anymore, I guess so. I am ok with the new dates because a) I have no choice in the matter anyhow and b) over the last few weeks the realization was starting to set in more and more that the anticipated single/album timelines were just not lining up right and so today’s news was only the definitive confirmation of something that I had kind of feared, but was not yet ready to face.
I am totally glad that Adam is still giving us the news straight and via Twitter and that I don’t have to listen to a PR person give me some prepared BS. Or that I am not served the ‘good-news-are-announced-by-the-artist and bad-news-we-push-to-PR’ tactic. I very much appreciate how Adam handles it and I am sure it is not fun for him either, if he has to make an announcement like today, but yet he steps up to the plate and has done so consistently for the last 2 ½ years. On this one, I definitively do have an opinion and I love what Adam does when it comes to PR.
So the only question I really had to chew over today was the ‘what is really going on?’ question:
- Is it Adam? Is it RCA/mgmt? Do they have disagreements? Yadi, yadi, yadi….
So I want to chime in on just a few topics:
Eber’s message: Keep up the good work. Trust (and defend) your gut….
No way do I believe that this indicates any grievance that Adam may be having with RCA. If Eber were ever privy to such information, he would certainly never babble about that on twitter. From everything I have seen and read, Eber is a lot of things, but stupid is not one of them. And that would be a totally stupid thing to tweet about.
Far more likely is the scenario: Adam, Neil, Eber together listening and debating like usual and let’s face it, all three of them can be rather hot blooded. So Eber does not like a few things he heard and expressed his opinion.
Now, in hind-sight he tells Adam to follow his instincts and basically to not listen to him.
So what, if Adam has a dubstep track on there and Eber does not like it. Who cares? I will probably like it just fine. ….that is the far more likely scenario for that twitter message. One worry put to rest – at least for me.
Regarding the DC comparisons: When the world has the first weekly DavidCook hour broadcast from NZ, an opera singer starts discussing his vocals in England and I find his dance routines on Spanish TV and his contributions to social change in anything from the New York Times, to Huffington Post to the Malaysian Evening News, then I promise, I will immediately begin to join the worrisome comparison between DC’s album prospects and Adam’s. But until then….you are on your own, fellows! Oh, yes and there is the music comparison too, I forgot.
Re: Sales numbers: We all initially buy a few albums less in Jan/Feb because we do not have the X-mas gift buying demand to contend with. Adam does some fancy glammed-up deluxe acoustic sparkle edition for the end of 2012 shopping season and I’ll buy it for every X-mas recipient I can think of at that time on top of all the initial purchases I made in early 2012. That stuff all works itself out in the end.
RCA will just have to bank it in a different quarter, I suppose.
I am not a Zen-like person….not my nature, but on the date change topic I’ll go with that side of the crowd. But I’ll go back to the sidelines, because I really don’t know what I am doing in a very Zen environment. Sorry if I was making too much noise.
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Post by seoulmate on Sept 12, 2011 23:50:41 GMT -5
Just curious if something is still considered an addiction if it is being successfully managed - like those who take time for a real life but the whole time wish they could be watching or listening to Adam related things. Yes = it's still an addiction even if it's being successfully managed.  |
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Post by rihannsu on Sept 12, 2011 23:51:59 GMT -5
OMG, I'VE BEEN CORRUPTED!!!!!! I've been sneaking back on the local radio stations and rating music, etc., so I'll be ready for the new single. I've been listening to KIIS for the last 45 min. and suddenly realized I liked the music!!!!! OMFG!!! What happened????? Ever notice how after prolonged exposure to unpleasant odors you just don't notice them anymore until you like leave the area of effect and then return? Prolonged exposure causes desensitization.  |
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Post by ksha518 on Sept 12, 2011 23:53:24 GMT -5
SPOILER ALERT----- Random venting occurring so scroll if easily offended. :D :D :D So glad I was at work all day so that I wasn't tempted to respond to anyone directly because as much as I love stanning Adam and love all the posters here I'm quite positive I would have pissed someone off. WARNING__The following actually refers to life in general rather than specifically this day's thread My pet peeve isn't the angsting itself but rather the insanely ridiculous jumping to conclusions Olympics that happen. Fine, I get that everyone has a right to there opinion yada yada but personally I prefer to have my friend actually tell me when I'm being a stupid, ridiculous ass so that I learn from my mistakes. I will however refrain from commenting specifically on anyone's posts because obviously in times like these no amount of logic will make a dent. Is it really too much to expect people actually THINK for a few seconds before leaping? I'm sure most people would agree with the old adage "Look before you leap" so why can't people "think before they leap to some grand outlandish spectacularly insane conclusion"? I try to get it - really - I do but sometimes even when I throw out every single thing that I know about a given subject or situation I STILL can't figure out how some of these conclusions are reached. Asking how doesn't help either because I can't make any sense of the answers either. This is one reason I so often feel disconnected from others and or anxious in social situations because I feel that what is in my head is so totally alien to everyone else.Rihannsu, I really enjoy your posts, and I enjoyed your rant, lol. The bolded, italicized part is so how I feel, but for completely different reasons, I suspect. You sound like a very logical person, and I'm...not. I tend to have a strong sense of intuition about some things, but tend to just listen and attempt to evaluate when fact-based people try to make sense of things. Somehow my brain seems to operate differently than most other people. My kids find this both funny and annoying. One thing I will say about jumping to conclusions -- the conclusions are very much influenced by whatever paradigm is guiding your perspective. So, for instance, I think a lot of the angst about whether the delay in Adam's album release will doom him to David Cook-like numbers is only a concern for people who are viewing things through the American Idol lens. I was not an Idol fan when I discovered Adam, and all of the online blogs with their accompanying fanwarring were an eye-opener to me. I used to get so frustrated with people on MJs not 'getting' that Adam was different from any other Idol and therefore none of the same 'truths' applied. (*Black Swan* ) I tend not to go there much any more because the whole mind-set seems so limited. And so much stuff I don't care about -- I'm not a numbers person. I appreciate that some are, but I'd rather read about it here than on an Idol blog. Anyway....this is leading into me saying that my reaction to the news of the delay of Adam #2 is primarily relief. Yes, relief. Mainly for two reasons, one personal and the other somewhat more objective. The personal reason is that I am NOT READY to get swept up in another Adamstorm -- I have spent way too much time on Adam in the last two years. Yes, it was enjoyable but in a lot of ways it felt like I was on a runaway train. I was mesmerized. I couldn't have limited my stanning time if I tried (and I didn't try). Unlike what some have said, my life before Adam was anything but dull -- it was kind of crazy and stressful. Things calmed down just in time for me to lose my mind to Adam. I've said this before, but my life in some ways is at a crossroads, and I can either create opportunities for myself or give up and sit in front of the computer and live vicariously through Adam. Guess what, I'd rather do the first. I've said a little more than I intended, but I do often feel like I'm on a completely different page than most other fans. And I feel like I have plenty to keep me occupied until the album comes --- I haven't even seen the AI confessionals yet! And frankly, I could stare at Adam/Tommy kissing gifs for hours on end if I let myself. Yeah, that's just me. The other, more objective reason I feel relief is on behalf of Adam. NO WAY is it even possible for me to see him as a victim of RCA's machinations. IF there is something related to the restructuring of RCA that is affecting Adam's album release, that's ok -- I am sure they know his potential and want to do the best they can for him. And I agree with whoever posted that more time will allow them to arrange and coordinate the promo more effectively, both in the US and globally (ahh, doesn't that sound great?) But I have a strong sense that at least part of the delay is Adam. And that's why I feel relief. Because, frankly, November would have felt rushed to me. Until this year, Adam was operating at a breakneck pace. And immediately at the end of that, he fell in love. And took some time to nurture the blossoming relationship. I actually wasn't happy about that at the time, because I felt that it WOULD affect his work and his time line. I'm sure he wasn't completely focused on the album at times this year. And I'm actually thrilled now that he's taking more time to create something which lives up to his expectations for himself. Fan demands just seem to me to be way over the top sometimes -- for music, for photos, for tweets. He's amazing, but it's got to be a little crazy-making sometimes. 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Post by hoopla1 on Sept 12, 2011 23:53:45 GMT -5
CRAAZY, LOL!!! I mean lol....shhhhhhhh....
"I am not a Zen-like person….not my nature, but on the date change topic I’ll go with that side of the crowd. But I’ll go back to the sidelines, because I really don’t know what I am doing in a very Zen environment. Sorry if I was making too much noise."
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Post by ksha518 on Sept 12, 2011 23:54:33 GMT -5
OMG, I'VE BEEN CORRUPTED!!!!!! I've been sneaking back on the local radio stations and rating music, etc., so I'll be ready for the new single. I've been listening to KIIS for the last 45 min. and suddenly realized I liked the music!!!!! OMFG!!! What happened????? Ever notice how after prolonged exposure to unpleasant odors you just don't notice them anymore until you like leave the area of effect and then return? Prolonged exposure causes desensitization. LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by lynne on Sept 13, 2011 0:09:42 GMT -5
Today's thread is a testament to the value of group therapy. There is a reason so many crimes are committed by loners. Talking someone down from the ledge is not just an idle statement. Just curious if something is still considered an addiction if it is being successfully managed - like those who take time for a real life but the whole time wish they could be watching or listening to Adam related things.[/b] Hmmm... Very likely, lol... |
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Post by rihannsu on Sept 13, 2011 0:12:25 GMT -5
SPOILER ALERT----- Random venting occurring so scroll if easily offended. :D :D :D So glad I was at work all day so that I wasn't tempted to respond to anyone directly because as much as I love stanning Adam and love all the posters here I'm quite positive I would have pissed someone off. WARNING__The following actually refers to life in general rather than specifically this day's thread My pet peeve isn't the angsting itself but rather the insanely ridiculous jumping to conclusions Olympics that happen. Fine, I get that everyone has a right to there opinion yada yada but personally I prefer to have my friend actually tell me when I'm being a stupid, ridiculous ass so that I learn from my mistakes. I will however refrain from commenting specifically on anyone's posts because obviously in times like these no amount of logic will make a dent. Is it really too much to expect people actually THINK for a few seconds before leaping? I'm sure most people would agree with the old adage "Look before you leap" so why can't people "think before they leap to some grand outlandish spectacularly insane conclusion"? I try to get it - really - I do but sometimes even when I throw out every single thing that I know about a given subject or situation I STILL can't figure out how some of these conclusions are reached. Asking how doesn't help either because I can't make any sense of the answers either. This is one reason I so often feel disconnected from others and or anxious in social situations because I feel that what is in my head is so totally alien to everyone else.Rihannsu, I really enjoy your posts, and I enjoyed your rant, lol. The bolded, italicized part is so how I feel, but for completely different reasons, I suspect. You sound like a very logical person, and I'm...not. I tend to have a strong sense of intuition about some things, but tend to just listen and attempt to evaluate when fact-based people try to make sense of things. Somehow my brain seems to operate differently than most other people. My kids find this both funny and annoying. One thing I will say about jumping to conclusions -- the conclusions are very much influenced by whatever paradigm is guiding your perspective. So, for instance, I think a lot of the angst about whether the delay in Adam's album release will doom him to David Cook-like numbers is only a concern for people who are viewing things through the American Idol lens. I was not an Idol fan when I discovered Adam, and all of the online blogs with their accompanying fanwarring were an eye-opener to me. I used to get so frustrated with people on MJs not 'getting' that Adam was different from any other Idol and therefore none of the same 'truths' applied. (*Black Swan* ) I tend not to go there much any more because the whole mind-set seems so limited. And so much stuff I don't care about -- I'm not a numbers person. I appreciate that some are, but I'd rather read about it here than on an Idol blog. Oh, I can totally get the frame of reference things which is why the conclusions people jump to often tell me more about them than the situation being discussed, but sometimes they are so totally divorced from ANY reality whatsoever that no matter how hard I try I can't make sense of it. Like I said this is not just fan related, it appalls me sometimes how totally disconnected many people are from from facts in general or have no discernment between fiction and reality. This one is sort of fan related in that it is an entertainment thing but I was reading a review of Cheeks new web series Husbands which is a sit-com which I would think everyone should realize is fiction right? They describe the fact that the two male characters get married in Vegas. The first comment on the article was "I'm pretty sure gay marraige isn't legal in Vegas..." Hello, can they really not get that this is fiction and therefore doesn't have to follow with what is ACTUALLY legal anywhere? That's actually a kind of mild example but anyway thanks for the support. |
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